Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #64

[indicolite22]

Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #64

Lori has a friend AB that was brought in for a grand jury. According to Gilbert PD released documents Lori went to Missouri to visit this friend on 10/10/2019.

And here's the dark haired woman that visited Lori in her Rexburg home on 10/29/2019 (second part of the video):

Apart from AB, it could have been one of the other cult members that we learned about from the Arizona document releases. I don't think it's Lori's sister.

 

[pizzaman12]

Amended for Chad

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211623/Amended Protective Order.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1mLG_TEnlAGG4-7k86xyAArrbc6BXsQm7_xwDIvTtpHyOGwU2BL8Kbtqo

 

[Pipersand]

Thanks pizzaman 12 - not sure why this is with respect to only the defendant Daybell? His counsel was not participating in the hearing and I thought the state's motion was directed more to Means and LVD? Should both have been shown as defendants - or is it because of LVD's incompetency? And ... isn't it funny that Means AND LVD were both found incompetent by the court?!

 

[Tortoise]

Thanks pizzaman 12 - not sure why this is with respect to only the defendant Daybell? His counsel was not participating in the hearing and I thought the state's motion was directed more to Means and LVD? Should both have been shown as defendants - or is it because of LVD's incompetency? And ... isn't it funny that Means AND LVD were both found incompetent by the court?!

LVD too

https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/010722 Amended Protective Order.pdf

 

[Pipersand]

Thanks Tortoise!!! You are simply the best!!!

 

[Kemug]

What I got from the hearing was:

State: We made this motion before and it was ordered: Make MM shut up.
Just want to remind everyone today, same as before:
Make MM shut up.

"MM go away, come again another day." Or not.

 

[Love Never Fails]

So I guess no news is good news?
This has been one long, drawn out case with so many other stories and crimes added in.

 

[JolietJake]

Now that MM is gone, it could get even quieter while we await various court dates. Although MM sucked as a lawyer, he was good entertainment. I'm gonna miss his drama, gaffes, mis-spellings, tweets, etc.

 

[indicolite22]

MM moved from quoting dead presidents to Victor Hugo on his SM. Instead of acting like he was on a crusade, he could have been learning from JA.

A new book is out about this case, written by a prolific true crime author.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Now that MM is gone, it could get even quieter while we await various court dates. Although MM sucked as a lawyer, he was good entertainment. I'm gonna miss his drama, gaffes, mis-spellings, tweets, etc.

I don’t think I could miss him if I tried.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I don’t think I could miss him if I tried.

Same here. Immaturity doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

 

[fred&edna]

Same here. Immaturity doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

I often resemble that remark but MM didn't appeal to me, either.

 

[887sMtreme]

I often resemble that remark but MM didn't appeal to me, either.

May we yet learn that some of his incompetent representation will buy LVD a mistrial? I hope not.

 

[montegrl]

May we yet learn that some of his incompetent representation will buy LVD a mistrial? I hope not.

Yeah the true irony in all of this is that she hasn't even been arraigned yet

 

[montegrl]

It looks like LV has had another evaluation:

• 01/13/2022 Motion
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 01/13/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  Sealing IDHW Competency Report
  
  
• 01/13/2022 Status Report
  
  Comment
  Forensic Mental Health Evaluation
  

 

[montegrl]

CD has some upcoming hearings:

• 01/27/2022 Motion Hearing
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:30 AM
  
  Comment
  Motion to Extend Time for 12(b)(6) Filings
  
  
• 03/18/2022 Motion Hearing
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:30 AM
  
  Comment
  Motion to Sever
  
  
• 03/18/2022 Motion Hearing
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  11:00 AM
  
  Comment
  Motion to Allow Additional Evidence re: Jury
  

 

[pizzaman12]

It looks like LV has had another evaluation:

• 01/13/2022 Motion
  
  Comment
  to Seal
  
  
• 01/13/2022 Order
  
  Comment
  Sealing IDHW Competency Report
  
  
• 01/13/2022 Status Report
  
  Comment
  Forensic Mental Health Evaluation

Was coming to post this last night and forgot. Since we haven't reached 180 days, this could mean she's been declared competent. Lori Hellis also chimes in https://twitter.com/lorihellis/status/1481793870979497985?cxt=HHwWgoCs4ZfrsZApAAAA

 

[BUF]

Was coming to post this last night and forgot. Since we haven't reached 180 days, this could mean she's been declared competent. Lori Hellis also chimes in https://twitter.com/lorihellis/status/1481793870979497985?cxt=HHwWgoCs4ZfrsZApAAAA

If so, interesting timing just after MM was disqualified as her attorney.

 

[nyvictoria]

If so, interesting timing just after MM was disqualified as her attorney.

Let’s hope his dismissal doesn’t push her right over the edge.

 

[Nosurprise]

If so, interesting timing just after MM was disqualified as her attorney.

All this seems very suspicious and contrived to me moo.
In the beginning, right when she was supposed to be arraigned, that's when Means pipes up with this incompetence claim.. didn't he say it's been going on for awhile? Jmo..then he wants to be involved with her care and control that..so to me it was a ploy. She fooled Dr.s before and police..and many others.. so she's in there awhile then comes the meds ? Maybe? Delay Delay Delay..I think it would be easy to just block any discussion about what's happening and act like her children are still alive.. now Means makes frivolous and incoherent motions over and over again..all the while fleecing the Idaho tax payers.
So while Means was in charge she didn't have to do anything with Archibald. Means and Loco are in charge.. now things have changed.. Means is gone and maybe Archibald is not playing her game. she has to become competent to gain control.. I believe when she called LDS attorney, she wasn't calling to replace Means but Archibald. I think now she will want Archibald fired and will be screaming to get Means back..she won't be the first person to keep acting crazy and firing her public defenders. Those 2 attorneys were smart to leave after that first hearing.
I bet Hawaii were glad to see the back of her.. Even that first attorney that was Chad's is thanking his lucky stars..I think we will see fireworks again..soon..don't know if the prosecutors asked for a independent Forensic Psychiatrist? Jmo moo moo.. I don't think it's the last we hear from Means.. jmo moo