video in post #171 page 9 of this thread
3mins 16s
MG: "she [Lori] said..."
my brother and my husband and my nephew are all zombies now and they all want me dead"... It gets crazy. So anyway, they have this shoot-down and everything... So I was chatting to a police officer, he goes you know she was really happy for somebody that just had her husband shot dead...she's real positive and upbeat and I was like well
that's not normal behavior for somebody that gets blown away in your front room."
4mins 12s
MG: "She takes Tylee and JJ with her, Tylee and JJ are up there, I know she's up there with both of them because I can hear them on the phone in the background while she's packing and moving in, and then she tells me I don't know, within a week or two that Tylee is now at BYU, she's up there at school.
So I go up to visit her and I see that Tylee is not there and I, I said "hey", you know, "Tylee's", you know I mentioned again like "Tylee went to BYU?" and she goes "yeah", but she gave me this really creepy look, yeah it was creepy, it was like
'yes, she's dead really' and you know that kind of look like, yeah almost that kind of look, but then I didn't know what to think about it at the time, I was like 'ooooohh, why do I feel creepy when she looks at me like that?', you know, and so anyway
then she tells me, I get there in September 23rd weekend and JJ's missing, no JJ's not missing sorry, JJ's there
and she tells me he's a zombie now. And so was Tylee. Yes,
so people that are zombies they don't end up staying alive, as you probably see the pattern here. And so anyway, so I say "okay", she says "I'm just gonna give him back to Kay, the grandmother..."
6mins 34s
MG: "...So then Tammy dies and then she's in Hawaii when it happens and
I call her in Hawaii and I said "hey
guess what, do you know
Tammy just died, do you know this?" and
she goes "no I haven't heard it yet". And I said "what happened, what happened to Tammy?" and she goes "well,
she was a zombie two weeks before she died", and I was like "really?", she goes "yes, she was starting to question our relationship, she was wondering if he was having an affair". I said "ohhh", and I said "well how did she die?". She goes "well
we just had to do what we could to take her out of her spirit", something like that. And I was like, 'um, daaa, okkaaay', I'm thinking she said a prayer and her spirit went home, that's what I'm thinking right? And so like maybe she did some kind of blessing or something, you know like people can do I guess? I don't know. "
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Lori said 'I haven't heard Tammy is dead
yet.' So MG proceeded to ask her how she died anyway, and got an answer. That doesn't stack up.
This must have been the actual day Tammy died because Lori hadn't (
wink wink) heard yet and was still out of town. It's not likely that MG would think she was the first to break the news to her, that MG found out before Lori via a friend who saw it on facebook! But why would you say 'how did she die, what happened?' to someone who hasn't heard yet? This just can't be truthful.
MG's comment about planned self-defense doesn't show gullibility it is absolute nonsense. If you think it's self-defense but then afterwards re-think it and conclude it was planned, you don't try to pass it off as if you still believe it was self-defense. timestamp: 2m 50s:- "Friend: "Did she ask him to kill him?" MG: "Wellll, to self-defense, yes. Well he, she, cos they planned it...")
Both these accounts of Tammy's and Charles's murders (especially saying Charles came into town and "he passes away" (timestamp 2m 20s) smell like setting up the phone friend to me, to gain support.
When did she visit Lori between roughly 9th Sep and 19th Sep and ask Lori if Tylee was at BYU?
When did she have the conversation (see below) with Lori after Tammy's death that the physical body needed to die to free the spirit from limbo?
Why didn't she and DW talk about Tammy's death and decide it was suspicious, only a few months after Charles's murder? Prayed Tammy to death after she found out Chad was cheating??? Come on MG!
Why didn't she think again about Tylee and Lori's look "she's dead really", when Tammy died?
Why did she only go to police over a month later when they said JJ was staying with MG 'to protect his location'? It seems wholly self-serving.
How did MG know Alex and ZP could give her information about the children?
What did MG know about Alex's role in the deaths that made her afraid for her own life and go back to Utah?
Why is she protective of Alex? Does she compare herself to him?
Just mulling it all over....sorry if I'm covering old ground. It was a week before Tammy's death that MG refused to help BB's PI find Alex and MBP after his attempted shooting. I'm sure I remember her being involved somehow in something to do with going to BB's neighbor's house too? Did she know he was shot at on 2nd October? I'm a bit rusty on this aspect.
from timeline -
NE:
How did you learn that Tammy had died?
MG: “
Someone text me, a friend, not any person that was associated close but just a friend, she said ‘hey just want to let you know she passed on’. I said ‘how did you find out?’ She said ‘Facebook’. I thought ‘oh my gosh, she died, that’s what they said was gonna happen, I wonder what happened’. I didn’t know how they did it, but I knew it was part of the plan, that she was supposed to pass away.”
After 19 Oct 2019 – MG was informed by LV that when someone became a zombie “their original spirit left their body and entered “limbo”, and is trapped and cannot progress to “paradise”.” LV then told MG that to be freed from limbo the physical body needed to die. MG reports she was never told by LV or CD that they planned to carry out physical killing themselves. When she was told this information, MG was still under the belief that JJ was with KW and TR was at BYU-Idaho. (source - 06/29/2020
Probable Cause Affidavit of Detective Ron Ball )
MOO
What a tough situation Tylee was in. It is amazing she developed her sense of humor.
