Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #2

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ElementalLaura said:
One way to hide Tylee while exerting control over her would be to marry her to a true believer.
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That keeps running through my head as well. If they married Tylee off to an older man, he would have means to take care of JJ.

It is honestly one of three scenarios that I think are plausible, but all three scenarios end with violence, I think.
 
Steelslady said:
I don't know if you want my thoughts on this, but here goes:

I believe that LE and possibly the FBI don't think that the children are alive. Hence, why no Amber alert.

They won't be found riding around in any vehicle, whether it be Lori's, Chad's, or another family members or friends car.

Joshua has special needs that he needs daily medication for as well as doctor's visits, lab work, etc. There's no way in God's creation that they somehow have stock piled enough medicine for him, and what about any doctor's appointments or therapy he may need? Do we honestly believe that some family member or friend is buying their silence while providing care for Joshua?

I bet that the traumatic event of seeing Joshua's father being shot by Lori's brother had a very traumatic effect on both of those children. Lori doesn't sound like she would want to deal with that, in my opinion. Not this new Lori, follower and wife of Chad.

Again, it scares me about this Julie discussing the visions her and Chad had. I am really wondering about this, if Chad didn't somehow convince Lori that he had a vision about the kids being in the same spirit world or wherever he says they're all going after this life, and she fell for it and they did something with the kids.

I just feel that LE and the FBI are doing a lot of quiet digging- we think they're doing nothing, but I sincerely doubt that very much. Remember- there's been several deaths and acts of violence already, and if there is a slim chance that those kids are alive, they don't want to provoke anyone to harm them before they find them. They also don't want them going after anyone else.
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Sadly, I agree.
 
Some with this profile are actually gifted. Myself I dropped out youNg but amazed many when went back later several levels above and offered many scholarships. Son was on a path to have “trouble” educated at average level In mainstream. . When he very gifted but normal system not only refused to see this but tried to label certain things as problem. The system was The problem thankfully I put him into specialised education that saw him several years advanced. But add these neurological differences and enter mainstream school system that cannot recognise this and instead put kids in average or less level.... come serious adhd symptoms. Big pharma says thanks can prescribe expensive drugs ie Ritalin. Many won’t even diagnose an autistic with adhd as many autistics could qualify and opens doors to “medicate “Well. Ya. Try sitting in a class that goes over and over same material when u learned it in five seconds need much higher level but are handled as average. Come dropout. Come trouble making ect. Or family members who really want “normal”. Lots of problems can come here. I’m saying all of this because I am hoping JJ okay in fact maybe better than without meds however I know nothing here and from what I’ve read sadly maybe things far from okay.
 
JJ is not better without his meds. He can't sleep without his medication. How is a child who can't sleep for more than couple hours without his medication is going to be "better"? There is no indication he is either gifted or advanced. He was born to drug addicted parents. I don't think that makes someone gifted or advanced.
 
katikaboom said:
That keeps running through my head as well. If they married Tylee off to an older man, he would have means to take care of JJ as well.

It is honestly one of three scenarios that I think are plausible, but all three scenarios end with violence, I think.
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If Tylee got married, why wouldn't Lori simply tell police that Tylee got married and JJ was with them? Minimal age to marry in Idaho is 16, so it wouldn't be illegal. So there would be no need for Chad and Lori to take off.
 
katikaboom said:
That keeps running through my head as well. If they married Tylee off to an older man, he would have means to take care of JJ as well.

It is honestly one of three scenarios that I think are plausible, but all three scenarios end with violence, I think.
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And marriage is legal at 16 in Idaho I believe.

ETA jjenny just saw your post but maybe it was against her will. Can that happen?
 
tresir2012 said:
And marriage is legal at 16 in Idaho I believe.
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Yes, it's legal. So Lori could simply have told police if Tylee were married, instead of going on the run. As of now, neither Lori nor Chad are charged with anything. If police were told where the children were located, there would be no need for Chad and Lori to take off.
 
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jjenny said:
JJ is not better without his meds. He can't sleep without his medication. How is a child who can't sleep for more than couple hours without his medication is going to be "better"? There is no indication he is either gifted or advanced. He was born to drug addicted parents. I don't think that makes someone gifted or advanced.
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is not what I meant. I obviously know nothing. I am however an autistic as is my son and have strong opinions re medication that possibly many people who are not have a different opinion regarding what is and isn’t the problem. Btw their def was no indication my son or myself were advanced either but that wasn’t the Actual case. As all say here MOO and being autistic I had to say.
 
afitzy said:
Was just reviewing activity on the FB page of Rexburg PD regarding this sad case.

There were multiple posts from family members begging for an Amber Alert and the response of Rexburg PD was "NO" and:
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The federal government has a list of criteria they recommend states use for Amber alerts and most states are said to stay fairly close to the recommendations. The very first item on the list is that law enforcement must confirm that an abduction has taken place. It's the same on the Idaho list. This case doesn't even make it past the first criteria before failing.

MOO, but amber alerts are designed and intended for the situation where a child was abducted and the kidnapper is on the move with the kidnapped child, law enforcement is fairly certain what vehicle is being used, and there is a decent chance that by blasting this information out that someone will spot them and the child will be recovered before the kidnappers go to ground.

IMO, this case was never a reasonable situation for an amber alert. What is an amber alert going to gain over what they're already doing (blasting out to media that the children are missing, why they are concerned, etc)? As far as I can tell the main difference is that it would sound an alert on all our cell phones saying two kids are missing, but we have no idea where they are or might be traveling or what vehicle they're in, so we can't tell you what to be looking for. But please look. Then for the next day or so those inclined will be looking out for ... nothing, since they don't know what to look for.
 
Tigerlily75 said:
Thanks, I wondered who he was! He’s all over the comments.
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I like Zac's comments the best. But this is ridiculous that Lori and Chad have lawyers and others speaking for them. Why don't they just post a video showing they are all ok. And why is there constant talk of a custody battle?
I notice that there were replies to GH on there but he must have removed his comments. I think they want publicity. FBI should freeze their financial assets. I hope they can trace where they are broadcasting from ( like they did with the killers of Sydney Loofe when they were on the run.) They are stating several times that the lawyers know where they are so can the lawyers be made to tell the FBI? When the accusation of FBI being sex traffickers came up, then I just knew that they are hiding something. They should be protecting the kids, not the adults. MOO.
 
jjenny said:
Well, if it's again Tylee's will then it certainly wouldn't be a legal marriage and in fact would be a crime.
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That's what I mean when I say Tylee may have been married off. The people in her life that have spoken up for her have said she didn't agree with everything her mother believed. If she got married to someone within this cult I think, and this is MOO of course, it was against her will. Lori and Chad wouldn't want that to get out either, especially if, as people who knew her said, Lori is obsessed with appearances.

Again, this is just a scenario where the kids have a chance of being alive.
 
renarde said:
I do wonder though, when Charles claimed that Lori was gone and "abandoned" them for 2.5 months... did he also mean she left Tylee behind?

Who was taking care of Tylee at that point, was it Charles? Uncle Alex? Did Tylee just take care of herself?
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Excellent point! Since Charles does not mention Tylee at all when she discusses this with Gray on Youtube, I am guessing Tylee was not in the picture, meaning not with Charles.
 
jjenny said:
JJ is not better without his meds. He can't sleep without his medication. How is a child who can't sleep for more than couple hours without his medication is going to be "better"? There is no indication he is either gifted or advanced. He was born to drug addicted parents. I don't think that makes someone gifted or advanced.
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Very true, and sad. Kids like JJ do best with routines, normal, boring day to day living, without change or drama.

It seems like Lori, was definitely not the best person to adopt a special needs child. This was probably her ex husband's idea, and she kept the child, probably for the child support. I have no doubt that her ex was probably suing for custody, and probably would have received the child.

Same with Tylee, looks like her father was also trying to get custody of her. And Lori evaded him.
 
Yea, doesn't sound like Tylee was taken care of by Charles when Lori took off for two months. Tylee is also not mentioned in Charles' obit at all (and she was his step daughter for many years), so it doesn't seem like Charles and Tylee were close.
 
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