IL IL - Timmothy Fry-Pitzen, 6, Aurora, 13 May 2011 - mom found dead - #1

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"We're here in Dixon today because this is the last point of contact that we've been able to establish that the boy was with his mother and he was ok. Through cell phone records and what not we knew he was here about 1 o'clock last Friday and then we lost contact with them," says Lt. Pete Inda from the Aurora Police Department.

Investigators say they searched between 25 to 30 rural locations in the areas Thursday. They choose the search sites based on Fry-Pitzer's cell phone signals.

http://www.wrex.com/Global/story.asp?S=14678248

The above article also indicates all involved agencies will be meeting Friday to determine how they will move forward.
 
More information becoming available about yesterdays search and how LE plans to further the investigation into Timmothy's disappearance.


Excerpts:

Officers searched the Hennepin Feeder Canal in Rock Falls, wooded areas, quarries, remote roads and numerous other rural areas in Whiteside, Lee and Ogle counties.

Police search teams with two dogs also looked in areas of Castle Rock State Park south of Oregon, while an Illinois State Police airplane surveyed the area from above.

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&#8220;We will evaluate the results of the search and determine if we need to come back,&#8221; Inda said.

It&#8217;s too early to assume the boy is dead, but &#8220;we have to look at that possibility, although nobody wants to think about that,&#8221; Inda said. &#8220;We have to do our due diligence in this investigation to look at every theory, at every possibility.&#8221;

http://www.kcchronicle.com/2011/05/...urora-boy-extends-to-the-sauk-valley/avupsno/


The above is promising. It does sound as if LE has to review where they need to search rather than wandering aimlessly without any specific clues or information to where Timmothy might be.

I also looked at some of the photo's of the Hennepin Feeder Canal. The foliage in the area appears thick and is likely so in many rural area's along the route Amy traveled. Sadly that leaves me concerned he could be hidden in heavy foliage and difficult to find. I hope that is not the case but certainly a possiblity.

:praying: Timmothy is found safely and soon!
 
FOX News Article :

Nationwide Search Under Way for Illinois Boy After Mother Commits Suicide

A nationwide search is under way for a missing Illinois boy after his mother left behind a suicide note saying the child was in the care of unspecified people, Fox 8 reports.

The FBI and U.S. Marshals service are now assisting the Aurora Police Department in the hunt for the boy, according to the station.
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/2...s-boy-mother-commits-suicide/?test=latestnews
 
I was thinking that this wasn't exactly what I'd call a 'nationwide search', since I sure haven't seen much nationwide coverage of it. But I just saw an article on ABC's site that makes me think (hope) that the story might make this evening's national news. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that, since I still think there's a chance that Timmothy could be with someone who isn't in IL/WI/IA and isn't even aware of what's really going on. I want to believe that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/timothy-pi...ng-mothers-apparent-suicide/story?id=13650482


Edited to add: Guess not. :( It was more important to talk about the Spiderman play and people who plan to rapture tomorrow.

I'm feeling a little frustrated that there isn't much interest in this case, especially compared to others I've seen.
 
MarthaM said:
I was thinking that this wasn't exactly what I'd call a 'nationwide search', since I sure haven't seen much nationwide coverage of it. But I just saw an article on ABC's site that makes me think (hope) that the story might make this evening's national news. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for that, since I still think there's a chance that Timmothy could be with someone who isn't in IL/WI/IA and isn't even aware of what's really going on. I want to believe that.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/timothy-pi...ng-mothers-apparent-suicide/story?id=13650482


Edited to add: Guess not. :( It was more important to talk about the Spiderman play and people who plan to rapture tomorrow.

I'm feeling a little frustrated that there isn't much interest in this case, especially compared to others I've seen.
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BBM. I agree. There seems to be an underlying dismissal? or not much interest in this case that seems to fall too closely to a possible domestic violence situation which is clearly not the case. I seem to think people wrote the case off or immediately came up with the thought dad deserved it, there has to be a reason she was saving the boy from his father. Which we know is clearly not the case. This is a case of a person with mental illness which for reasons unknown to us was not treated properly or Amy refused treatment and was able to hide the severity of her illness from those closest to her. At least that is how it externally appears imo.

I'm trying to think of the possibilities of someone having and hiding Timmothy for this long. On the pro's this person could be vacationing and unaware of what has occured in the last week. Con, why would this person not be in contact with Amy? Timmothy would certainly be asking to talk to mommy, daddy, or family. Asking when he was going home or if he could call. I would think at some point the person who has Timmy would have planned to have contact with Amy and would become concerned when Amy hadn't contacted this person or this person was unable to reach Amy. The school year hadn't ended so why would this arrangement have been made prior to the end of the school year? It doesn't really make sense that they would pull him from Kindergarten and not allow him to finish the school year. Especially as bright student. IIRC KG is not mandatory in IL but it just seems if she was really going to pass him off to someone she would have done so after the school year ended - at least that makes more logical sense to me.

I'm so hoping there is much more going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of and perhaps LE is waiting until after Amy is buried for a further push with media and moving this case along.

Where are you Timmothy? Help us find you!
 
was so hoping for new developments today. :(

Where could this little guy be?
 
I was thinking that this wasn't getting as much attention because there wasn't enough of a 'domestic violence' twist to it. That there just aren't enough of those kinds of details to make it as interesting as some other cases. I dunno.

Where could he be? After a week, I can't really buy my first hope anymore--that some friends took him on a vacation with them, or that a friend who lives far away took him for a while at the mother's request. That would work for a few days, but not this long with technology these days. Even if somebody's off having so much fun that they don't turn on the TV or far away from the Midwest, they're still linked to the world via cell phone and would have gotten wind of the search.

So who else could be involved who would be clueless about what's going on? I can't think of another scenario. It would have to be someone isolated who stays completely away from technology, and I don't know anybody like that except the Amish.
 
Cubby said:
I'm so hoping there is much more going on behind the scenes that we are unaware of and perhaps LE is waiting until after Amy is buried for a further push with media and moving this case along.
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I'm guessing there will be quite a LE presence at her funeral, and hoping that some leads come from that.
 
MarthaM said:
I was thinking that this wasn't getting as much attention because there wasn't enough of a 'domestic violence' twist to it. That there just aren't enough of those kinds of details to make it as interesting as some other cases. I dunno.

Where could he be? After a week, I can't really buy my first hope anymore--that some friends took him on a vacation with them, or that a friend who lives far away took him for a while at the mother's request. That would work for a few days, but not this long with technology these days. Even if somebody's off having so much fun that they don't turn on the TV or far away from the Midwest, they're still linked to the world via cell phone and would have gotten wind of the search.

So who else could be involved who would be clueless about what's going on? I can't think of another scenario. It would have to be someone isolated who stays completely away from technology, and I don't know anybody like that except the Amish.
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BBM. I'm a single parent so I am thinking along the lines of the battle of the sexes with regards to custody type thing. IMO those missing as a result of parental kidnapping rarely get the same attention as other missing persons cases. And at least externally it appears in many cases if the abducting parent is female she gets a lot of sympathy. Toss in there how few cases such as this occur in the Chicagoland area and how conservative the north and west collar counties and I really think Kane Cty was not prepared for a case such as this. Not that I believe they are not leaving any stone unturned, just that my experience with their utilizing the media is quite conservative in comparison to other areas.

If this was approached as a possible murder suicide and the child needs to be found perhaps that might get more media attention.

jmo
 
Then toss in some other possibilities and questions. If she harmed Timmothy why would she wish to be found but keep her son hidden? Why not just harm both of them in a manner in which neither would be found? Why choose slitting her wrists as opposed to carbon monoxide poisoning? (Please forgive me for being graphic, I am trying to think of all possibilities here - and mean no disrespect).

To me some of the above seem obvious. the not so obvious leads me to things that are far reaching or a huge leap such Timmy was not the biological son of Jim and she gave him back to his bio dad? Or she had been having an affair she kept hidden? All of which is incredibly far reaching based on what we know.....

I hate to think along the lines of it might take some sensationalism to get this story in the news - above Oprah, the Bulls, and who knows what else. (doomsday, what the Kardashian sisters are doing.....what Blago is doing... )

I want this child home. I want him found one way or the other, safely or not and I am simply at a loss for why this child is not getting more attention. Even the number of persons viewing this thread is incredibly low for a missing child.

As a parent who is kind of like 'the block mom' the one that every kid in the neighborhood eventually ends up in front of/at my house. Tells me what so and so did like I can fix it.... (I'm not everyones parent and why are they telling me and not their parents? ) some of the kids come hungry and one wonders who is feeding them? So some come just for something to eat soemtimes....

I have to believe Timmy knows how to dial 911. Not that I would necessarily assume he could but if he is with someone he is safe with why haven't they called and why haven't they come forward?
 
I don't understand why this case isn't being publicized?

Is there something we can do about that? Write to someone? Something?

The boy deserves to be found.
 
Police reviewing evidence, new tips in disappearance of Aurora boy


Authorities investigating the disappearance of 6-year-old Timothy Pitzen spent Friday reviewing evidence, assessing new tips and determining whether to resume combing rural areas of northern Illinois.

They are considering whether to resume the search next week, "but we need to get a better direction" on where to look, Aurora police Lt. Pete Inda said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-timothy-pitzen-folo-0521-20110520,0,2689204.story
 
If I read correctly, Amy was suicidal in the past, was suffering bouts of depression and probably on various medications. Mental Illness does not crop up overnight or just "out of the blue" out of nowhere., there are signs all along but most are in denial.
The depression and past attempt of suicide are signs, blatant ones.

But to think and ask logic questions and wonder WHY a mentally ill woman doesn't think or act as we who aren't mentally ill the same logical questions and then look for logic as an answer means one doesn't truly understand what mental illness is.

WHY did Casey A. take the LE to an office she knew no longer existed at Disneyworld or whereever she once claimed to have worked? Why would she put heart stickers on a child either dead or dying or passed out? (if she did as being prosecuted for)......These are "logical questions" but cannot be answered in a logical manner.

The logic which defies us in the everyday world, needs no logic to the mentally ill person.

She did what she did because she was mentally ill (imo)

Both with herself and her son.

(just, imo)
 
Leomoon80 said:
The logic which defies us in the everyday world, needs no logic to the mentally ill person.

She did what she did because she was mentally ill (imo)
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I think you are absolutely 100% right.

I don't think there would be any point in my trying to figure out why she did what she did, or why she didn't do things differently -- at least not at this stage. I'm more interested in trying to figure out WHAT she did (where he is, when Timmothy and his mother were last together for sure, etc.).
 
MarthaM said:
I think you are absolutely 100% right.

I don't think there would be any point in my trying to figure out why she did what she did, or why she didn't do things differently -- at least not at this stage. I'm more interested in trying to figure out WHAT she did (where he is, when Timmothy and his mother were last together for sure, etc.).
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Agreed sort of....

Any and all of my outloud thoughts are simply to determine how we narrow the known timeline that LE has released along the Rock River in Dixon IL at 1-1:30pm (Search location) through the sighting at the grocery store in Winnebago at 8pm or so. Along the Rock River.

Little man is out there somewhere and we gotta find out where. No stone left unturned!
 
What a waste if the mother decided she was going to end this boy's life before she took her own. I understand that there were possible mental issues with the mom, but if she had managed to keep this child alive and seemingly happy for six years, what would make her do an abrupt turn around. This appears to be another tragedy, another heartbreaking mystery with pieces of the puzzle that don't fit. Poor Timmothy, I wish there was a chance that he would be found safe. This is a case that I just stumbled upon tonight, and now I will keep him and his Dad in my prayers.
 
I wonder if this case isn't getting much attention because there's no "villain" -- the person who made Timmothy disappear is dead, and if he's still alive, the people who have him are most likely well-intentioned.

I know I'm interested in crime stories at least in part because of a desire to see justice done. Maybe with no bad guy out there, there's no drive for justice, and hence no story, as far as the media is concerned.

I just want this lost little boy found. :(
 
Cubby said:
Agreed sort of....

Any and all of my outloud thoughts are simply to determine how we narrow the known timeline that LE has released along the Rock River in Dixon IL at 1-1:30pm (Search location) through the sighting at the grocery store in Winnebago at 8pm or so. Along the Rock River.

Little man is out there somewhere and we gotta find out where. No stone left unturned!
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Winnebago isn't along the Rock. More likely she ran into the construction on Route 2 and turned north to Winnebago. Local LE was featured on the news last night beating the bushes--did not like that at all. I want him found safe.
 
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