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Thank you. That is nice of you to say. Since they say they investigate every tip, I imagine it was investigated and police moved on from it for whatever reason. I will do the same.
I mean, we know very little on who they are investigating so they may not have moved on.
I only see white at the top and on the sides but it looks to me like the jacket is snapped or buttoned from the bottom to roughly his chest and then open. And, again the image is blurry so this is just how my eyes are interpreting it, it looks like there may be gaps between the buttons or snaps as if the jacket was too small. Which could be because he has layers on underneath it. MOOSo what to you think the white lines are in the chest area and lower(not the white thing at his neck)if his jacket is buttoned up?
Sad. 5 years, a photo, a voice, a video clip. No arrest.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
All I can find about that is Anna Williams, Abby's Mom, September 2020 online interview.Agreed. I'm not certain if it has ever been mentioned how many people were on those walking trails that day during that time frame. Did any of the other hikers see this man, dressed this way?
I'm curious, do do have an opinion on what that might be? TIA if you'd like to share.It doesn't unless you can recognize what is inside his coat.
Thinking out loud about DNA and two sketches, I’m remembering something from an old Forensic Files.
Chimera?
“chimera, in genetics, an organism or tissue that contains at least two different sets of DNA, most often originating from the fusion of as many different zygotes (fertilized eggs). The term is derived from the Chimera of Greek mythology, a fire-breathing monster that was part lion, part goat, and part dragon.
Encyclopedia Britannica › science
chimera | Genetics, Symptoms, & Microchimeras - Encyclopedia Britannica
The first human chimera was reported in 1953. Natural chimeras can arise in various ways. Fetal and maternal cells can cross the placental barrier so that both mother and child may become microchimeras. Two zygotes can fuse together during an early embryonic stage to form a fusion chimera.
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Natural human chimeras: A review - ScienceDirect
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Thinking out loud more, what about nonsecretors?
“What is a non secretor in forensics?
What does it mean to be a non secretor?
Secretor status refers to the presence or absence of water-soluble ABO blood group antigens in a person's bodily fluids, such as saliva, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen. People who secrete these antigens in their bodily fluids are referred to as secretors, while people who do not are termed non-secretors.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki › Sec...
Secretor status - Wikipedia
But if someone is a non-secretor (non-secretors make up between 15% and 25% of the population), though they may leave some semblance of a fingerprint behind, there's usually not enough DNA/information within it to identify the criminal.Jul 18, 2017”
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Chimera: In medicine, a person composed of two genetically distinct types of cells. Human chimeras were first discovered with the advent of blood typing when it was found that some people had more than one blood type. ... About 8% of non-identical twin pairs are chimeras.Jun 3, 2021
https://www.medicinenet.com › defi...
Medical Definition of Chimera - MedicineNet
Thinking out loud about DNA and two sketches, I’m remembering something from an old Forensic Files.
Chimera?
“chimera, in genetics, an organism or tissue that contains at least two different sets of DNA, most often originating from the fusion of as many different zygotes (fertilized eggs). The term is derived from the Chimera of Greek mythology, a fire-breathing monster that was part lion, part goat, and part dragon.
Encyclopedia Britannica › science
chimera | Genetics, Symptoms, & Microchimeras - Encyclopedia Britannica
The first human chimera was reported in 1953. Natural chimeras can arise in various ways. Fetal and maternal cells can cross the placental barrier so that both mother and child may become microchimeras. Two zygotes can fuse together during an early embryonic stage to form a fusion chimera.
View attachment 332754
ScienceDirect.com | Science, health and medical journals, full text articles and books. › pii
Natural human chimeras: A review - ScienceDirect
—
Thinking out loud more, what about nonsecretors?
“What is a non secretor in forensics?
What does it mean to be a non secretor?
Secretor status refers to the presence or absence of water-soluble ABO blood group antigens in a person's bodily fluids, such as saliva, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen. People who secrete these antigens in their bodily fluids are referred to as secretors, while people who do not are termed non-secretors.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki › Sec...
Secretor status - Wikipedia
But if someone is a non-secretor (non-secretors make up between 15% and 25% of the population), though they may leave some semblance of a fingerprint behind, there's usually not enough DNA/information within it to identify the criminal.Jul 18, 2017”
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Chimera: In medicine, a person composed of two genetically distinct types of cells. Human chimeras were first discovered with the advent of blood typing when it was found that some people had more than one blood type. ... About 8% of non-identical twin pairs are chimeras.Jun 3, 2021
https://www.medicinenet.com › defi...
Medical Definition of Chimera - MedicineNet
Thinking out loud about DNA and two sketches, I’m remembering something from an old Forensic Files.
Chimera?
“chimera, in genetics, an organism or tissue that contains at least two different sets of DNA, most often originating from the fusion of as many different zygotes (fertilized eggs). The term is derived from the Chimera of Greek mythology, a fire-breathing monster that was part lion, part goat, and part dragon.
Encyclopedia Britannica › science
chimera | Genetics, Symptoms, & Microchimeras - Encyclopedia Britannica
The first human chimera was reported in 1953. Natural chimeras can arise in various ways. Fetal and maternal cells can cross the placental barrier so that both mother and child may become microchimeras. Two zygotes can fuse together during an early embryonic stage to form a fusion chimera.
View attachment 332754
ScienceDirect.com | Science, health and medical journals, full text articles and books. › pii
Natural human chimeras: A review - ScienceDirect
—
Thinking out loud more, what about nonsecretors?
“What is a non secretor in forensics?
What does it mean to be a non secretor?
Secretor status refers to the presence or absence of water-soluble ABO blood group antigens in a person's bodily fluids, such as saliva, tears, breast milk, urine, and semen. People who secrete these antigens in their bodily fluids are referred to as secretors, while people who do not are termed non-secretors.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia › wiki › Sec...
Secretor status - Wikipedia
But if someone is a non-secretor (non-secretors make up between 15% and 25% of the population), though they may leave some semblance of a fingerprint behind, there's usually not enough DNA/information within it to identify the criminal.Jul 18, 2017”
—
Chimera: In medicine, a person composed of two genetically distinct types of cells. Human chimeras were first discovered with the advent of blood typing when it was found that some people had more than one blood type. ... About 8% of non-identical twin pairs are chimeras.Jun 3, 2021
https://www.medicinenet.com › defi...
Medical Definition of Chimera - MedicineNet
Not looking for a link, but IIRC, bone cancer treatment involves essentially a transplant of bone marrow cells that produce blood cells. After treatment, a person's blood cells may have one set of DNA, while hair & skin have a different set.
Anyone else hear of this?
jmho ymmv lrr
I don’t know about what anyone else thinks about you/your posts but WOW I truly and sincerely appreciate your posts. Yem you are a spectacular blessing to us here on WS/on this case thread! Thank you for sharing your detailed and extensive knowledge with us.What you've stated here is partially true IMO...likely a percentage of blood cells in any given sample would be of the donor type while some other percentage of blood cells (and all other cells in the body) would be the original genetic material. This is actually something (amount of chimerism, I mean) that they test for post-transplant in order to gauge the success of the treatment.
The good thing is that in a lot of forensic samples you don't have just a single cell to work with or even a single cell type. For example, a sample from a sexual assault might contain both sperm and epithelial cells from the offender.
With the chimera scenario, IMO, you start to get into really small probabilities....sure, it's not impossible. But first, you have a person who abducts and murders two young children (one of the rarest types of crimes), then added onto that, the person responsible is a bone marrow recipient or a naturally arising chimera, and then added onto that, the level of chimerism is so complicated that it cannot be resolved in DNA typing.
With the impending anniversary nearly here, I'm noting the frustration. Out of desperation over these five years, we have turned BG into an almost supernatural being. We've theorized all kinds of physical and mental disabilities, even some that would likely negate the possibility of him traversing the bridge and woods, at all. We've made him a genetic mutant. We've had him disguised and cunning and heavily weighed down with kill kit. We've had him design a whole theatrical set at the crime scene, and using every mode of transportation from semi to motorbike to hoverboard. We've had him full of trickery and baby animals. We've put him between 16 and 85 years old, 100 to 300 pounds and 5'1" to 6'4" tall. We've made him responsible for every serious crime committed in the region over the last ten years. Somewhere in this mess is probably the reality.
I'm not denigrating people's ideas. We are all just trying pieces together to see if they fit. The simplest way from point A to point B might not always be a straight line, but we can't forget that as an option. BG might just not be all that special. Either way, he needs to be held accountable.
Not looking for a link, but IIRC, bone cancer treatment involves essentially a transplant of bone marrow cells that produce blood cells. After treatment, a person's blood cells may have one set of DNA, while hair & skin have a different set.
Anyone else hear of this?
jmho ymmv lrr
That's why they haven't identified him. He was most likely very average - average height, average weight, average looking, and the list goes on and on. People saw him and didn't pay any attention to him because he fit right in. He didn't stand out in any way.With the impending anniversary nearly here, I'm noting the frustration. Out of desperation over these five years, we have turned BG into an almost supernatural being. We've theorized all kinds of physical and mental ailments, even some that would likely negate the possibility of him traversing the bridge and woods, at all. We've made him a genetic mutant. We've had him disguised and cunning and heavily weighed down with kill kit. We've had him design a whole theatrical set at the crime scene, and using every mode of transportation from semi to motorbike to hoverboard. We've had him full of trickery and baby animals. We've put him between 16 and 85 years old, 100 to 300 pounds and 5'1" to 6'4" tall. We've made him responsible for every serious crime committed in the region over the last ten years. Somewhere in this mess is probably the reality.
I'm not denigrating people's ideas. We are all just trying pieces together to see if they fit. The simplest way from point A to point B might not always be a straight line, but we can't forget that as an option. BG might just not be all that special. Either way, he needs to be held accountable.