Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #144

[Andreee]

The change in the poster that LE made and the sketch have really confused me even more than I was before lol. The transcript questions by LE to KAK implied to me that TK could be BG. But we are supposed to focus on the YG sketch on the poster, with the older sketch removed and some details. The YG sketch, if of the online bogus catfish A.Shots looks nothing like him, and as we know, the witnesses saw a partially covered face. So who is he based on? KAK doesn't look like him either. I don't know what to think about anything at this point. Sorry if I don't make sense, but I really thought there was a breakthrough after reading the transcript.

 

[Prime8]

The change in the poster that LE made and the sketch have really confused me even more than I was before lol. The transcript questions by LE to KAK implied to me that TK could be BG. But we are supposed to focus on the YG sketch on the poster, with the older sketch removed and some details. The YG sketch, if of the online bogus catfish A.Shots looks nothing like him, and as we know, the witnesses saw a partially covered face. So who is he based on? KAK doesn't look like him either. I don't know what to think about anything at this point. Sorry if I don't make sense, but I really thought there was a breakthrough after reading the transcript.

We just don't know what LE knows and the transcript is over a year old as well. I do find the removal of descriptors interesting. To me, this means that they don't want people to focus on those descriptors when sending in tips. People also tend to forget that people change over time, and that can hinder tips, so it could be as simple as a stale description that wouldn't be relevant to current times.

 

[DeDee]

We don't actually know that. What you are referring to is a rumor spread by Gray Hughes that has never been confirmed by LE.

When considering the very close relationship that GH has with the G's, it is highly doubtful he is spreading a "rumor." He would not do that to them as his paramount loyalty to them ranks supremely.
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[Prime8]

When considering the very close relationship that GH has with the G's, it is highly doubtful he is spreading a "rumor." He would not do that to them as his paramount loyalty to them ranks supremely.
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He may think it's true but it shouldn't be something taken as fact. KG is the first one to say that if it doesn't come from LE, it's shouldn't be considered a fact.

I will also note that relying on the families for information isn't always the best source. They don't necessarily know everything about the case. We can't say that a noise they heard on video as a fact, they aren't detectives or sound engineers, they are a grieving family looking for answers. A recording outdoors when movement is happening is going to have a lot of extra sound and distortion. Have you ever gotten a butt dial message? I bet that person sounded like they were underwater; I would say that there is a very high likelihood they were not in water.

 

[mekeritrig]

When considering the very close relationship that GH has with the G's, it is highly doubtful he is spreading a "rumor." He would not do that to them as his paramount loyalty to them ranks supremely.
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It is definitely a rumor. First of all, the information about a gun cocking on the bridge has never been sourced anywhere but on Gray Hughe's youtube channel and some less reputable places like RL's blog. And it is not from the German family. GH claims that someone close to Anna Williams told him what Anna Williams told them about what the police played for her from the audio on Libby's phone.

Anna Williams has never made a public statement confirming this information about a gun or a gun cocking being shown to her. What you are referencing is hearsay and is at best part of a extended game of telephone. LE has not confirmed it, neither have either of the families, and while what Gray Hughes has claimed may turn out to be true there is no way to know if its accurate or not.

Here's a video from GH where he explicitly says the information you were talking about is a second hand written account someone either sent him or posted on FB.

 

[margarita25]

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Murder Sheet Podcast Episode Index - KAK
December 17, 2021 - March 15, 2022 (Episodes 1-9)


1. Episode 60 - The Delphi Murders: Kegan Anthony Kline
December 7, 2021

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The name Kegan Anthony Kline has now come up in connection to the Delphi murders.

“Who is Kegan Anthony Kline? On December 6, 2021, Indiana State Police brought up a profile known only as "anthony_shots" in connection with the Delphi case. The following day, WISH-TV connected the 27-year-old Indiana man with that profile.

Less than two weeks after the murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, investigators raided a residence connected to Kline in Peru, Indiana. In August of 2020, he was hit with a number of felony charges for child molestation and child *advertiser censored*.

But who exactly is this person? We decided to find out by talking with Dylan Howell, who counted Kline as a friend growing up. Howell spoke to us about his shock over the charges against Kline, possible red flags, and the chance that Kline's crimes are linked to what happened to Abby and Libby in Delphi.

This episode takes a break from our focus on restaurant homicides, and is part of our intermittent series of episodes on the Delphi case. If you have information on the Delphi murders, send your confidential tip to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or call 844-459-5786, 800-382-7537 or 765-564-2413.

• Here's the video from Indiana State Police: (https://tinyurl.com/yc27hpwp)

• Here's the WISH-TV report: (Man behind 'anthony_shots' account charged for child *advertiser censored*; docs don't tie him to Delphi case)

• Here's the 2017 Journal & Courier article about the raid on the house in Peru, Indiana: (FBI searches Peru home, finds no link to Delphi killings)”

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2. Episode 61 - The Delphi Murders: Kayla’s Story
December 13, 2021

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We spoke with a woman who said she was preyed upon by Kegan Anthony Kline

“A 27-year-old Indiana man named Kegan Anthony Kline has been brought up in connection with the 2017 murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in Delphi, Indiana. He currently stands accused of using social media to catfish and coerce young girls.

This week, the Murder Sheet spoke with a woman named Kayla. She told us that Kline cat-fished her when she was just 12. Over the next few years, he would threaten and abuse her online. In one chilling anecdote, Kayla recalled meeting Kline at a public park. She said he became furious with her for bringing along a friend.

Due to the disturbing allegations contained in this episode, we submitted a tip to authorities using the Delphi hotline, with Kayla's permission.”

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3. Episode 67 - The Delphi Murders: Vegas Dreams
January 10, 2022 Bonus

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/murder-sheet/id1538289354?i=1000547439197
Nobody in Las Vegas seems to remember Kegan Anthony Kline.

“Correction: In this episode, we said that Tony Kline deleted his Facebook. That was incorrect. It appears that Kline blocked Murder Sheet co-creator Kevin Greenlee when he reached out for comment, so it only appeared that his page was gone. We regret the error.

On Facebook, Kegan Anthony Kline posted that he was starting a new job in Las Vegas on the day that Abby Williams and Liberty German were murdered in Delphi, Indiana. But does Kline's Vegas alibi hold up? In this episode, the Murder Sheet speaks with business owners and casino employees to attempt to get to the truth.”

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4. Episode 74 - The Delphi Murders: An Interview with Carroll County Sheriff Candidate Mike Thomas
February 9, 2022 Bonus

‎Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: An Interview with Carroll County Sheriff Candidate Mike Thomas on Apple Podcasts

“There's ’s a new Sheriff in town– or at least there will be soon. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby– who has been running the investigation into the murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams cannot run for the office again because of term limit restrictions.

At the moment, no one has filed for the Democratic nomination and three men have filed for the Republican nomination– Mike Thomas, Tony Liggett and Lee Hoard.

It is inevitable that the way the Delphi murder investigation has been handled or mishandled will become an issue in this race. And– of course– the man who wins the election will end up having a tremendous impact on the future of the case. Anyone who cares about getting justice for Libby and Abby really needs to follow this campaign.

Considering that, we decided to reach out to candidate Mike Thomas. He gave us his thoughts on what’s been done in the investigation– and what he would do differently if he became the man in charge.”

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5. Episode 76 - The Delphi Murders: Father and Son
February 22, 2022

Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: Father and Son on Apple Podcasts
Who is Tony Kline?

“Just a few months ago, Kegan Anthony Kline’s name was publicly linked to the Delphi murders. But to learn more about this 27-year-old man and his connection to the unsolved killings of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, it’s important to know about Kline’s family and upbringing. This week, the Murder Sheet ventures up to Peru, Indiana to uncover some of the crimes perpetrated by Tony Kline, Kegan’s father.”

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6. Episode 78 - The Delphi Murders: A Reaction to Barbara McDonald’s Interview with Kegan Kline
March 4, 2022

Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: A Reaction to Barbara McDonald’s Interview with Kegan Kline on Apple Podcasts
This episode contains new information in the Delphi murders.

“We uncovered the transcript of HLN and Down the Hill journalist Barbara McDonald's jailhouse interview with Kegan Kline from December of 2021.

This episode will delve into the details of the transcript that stand out to us, and we will reveal information we've received about the real focus of the investigation into the murders of Liberty German and Abigail Williams.”

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7. Episode 79 - The Delphi Murders: Document Drop Q&A
March 7, 2022

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Updates on our coverage of the Delphi murders.

“We have uncovered new court documents in the Delphi case.

We already released the transcript of a 2021 interview between Kegan Kline and HLN and Down the Hill journalist Barbara McDonald. In this quick update episode, we'll explain how we obtained that document, what documents we've yet to release, and when you can expect to see those.”

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8. Episode 81 - The Delphi Murders: The Kegan Kline Police Interview Part One
March 15, 2022

Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: The Kegan Kline Police Interview: Part One on Apple Podcasts
The documents we uncovered reveal more about the child sexual abuse materials case against Kegan Kline.

Content warning: This episode contains discussion of child molestation, child sexual abuse materials, and the murder of children. Listener discretion is strongly advised.

“On August 19, 2020, authorities arrested Kegan Kline. The then 26-year-old Indiana native sat down with two law enforcement officers to go over the charges against him, which centered around a trove of child sexual abuse materials found on his devices.

In this episode, we'll read directly from the interview transcript, delving into subjects like:

• Kegan Kline’s admitted “problem” with a sexual interest in children, and his claim that he failed a polygraph regarding the Delphi murders.

• Investigators’ focus on Kegan Kline and his father, Jerry Anthony or “Tony” Kline.

• Police pushing Kegan Kline to explain the flood of disgusting, horrific abuse videos and images of underaged girls on his devices.

• Kegan Kline’s admission that he destroyed evidence on his phone after police first raided his home about two weeks after the Delphi murders.

• How Kegan Kline possibly sparked Indiana’s largest investigation into child sexual abuse materials.”

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9. Episode 82 - The Delphi Murders: The Kegan Kline Police Interview Part Two
March 15, 2022

Murder Sheet: The Delphi Murders: The Kegan Kline Police Interview: Part Two on Apple Podcasts
This episode delves into the connections between Kegan Kline and the Delphi investigation

Listener discretion is strongly advised.

“On August 19, 2020, Kegan Kline sat for an interview with police investigators after he was arrested for charges related to child sexual abuse materials. Then the conversation turned to the Delphi murders.

In this episode, we'll read directly from the interview transcript, delving into subjects like:

• Kegan Kline’s repeated claims that he was told he flunked a lie detector test about the Delphi murders in 2017.

• The possibility that the anthony_shots account and Liberty German may have been in extensive contact before the murders.

• Tony Kline's violent acts against children in the past.”

 

[carbuff]

It was mentioned upthread that KAK's grandfather is deceased. It appears he only died last month, Feb. 21, 2022. Here's his obituary from the Peru newspaper: https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/perutribune/name/jerry-kline-obituary?id=33168765

It includes the information that he (and presumably his wife) liked to spend winters in Florida. Does that mean the house in Peru would have been available to KAK while they were gone?

 

[MistyWaters]

It is definitely a rumor. First of all, the information about a gun cocking on the bridge has never been sourced anywhere but on Gray Hughe's youtube channel and some less reputable places like RL's blog. And it is not from the German family. GH claims that someone close to Anna Williams told him what Anna Williams told them about what the police played for her from the audio on Libby's phone.

Anna Williams has never made a public statement confirming this information about a gun or a gun cocking being shown to her. What you are referencing is hearsay and is at best part of a extended game of telephone. LE has not confirmed it, neither have either of the families, and while what Gray Hughes has claimed may turn out to be true there is no way to know if its accurate or not.

Here's a video from GH where he explicitly says the information you were talking about is a second hand written account someone either sent him or posted on FB.

Plus no guns taken were mentioned in the search warrant and I don’t recall that KAK was asked any questions about guns.

 

[MistyWaters]

The change in the poster that LE made and the sketch have really confused me even more than I was before lol. The transcript questions by LE to KAK implied to me that TK could be BG. But we are supposed to focus on the YG sketch on the poster, with the older sketch removed and some details. The YG sketch, if of the online bogus catfish A.Shots looks nothing like him, and as we know, the witnesses saw a partially covered face. So who is he based on? KAK doesn't look like him either. I don't know what to think about anything at this point. Sorry if I don't make sense, but I really thought there was a breakthrough after reading the transcript.

Yes it’s interesting that the physical description was removed but the focus is still remains on the more recent sketch. Even without mentioning an age it doesn’t resemble either an older or a heavy-set man IMO.

 

[Sillybilly]

Finally found my original post with the image of the Lambo. Hard to find because I was searching for Ferrari

Found Deceased - IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #139

 

[DeDee]

Plus no guns taken were mentioned in the search warrant and I don’t recall that KAK was asked any questions about guns.

Why would they take a firearm if LE found one at the Peru resident? He is not a felon and won't be a felon until he's convicted.

However, the Probable Cause warrant does mention KAK had an image of him posed with a black handgun so a gun in mentioned in the PC on bottom of page 2 and top of page 3.

https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Kegan-Anthony-Kline-PC.pdf

 

[dcfi224]

Two things:
A) Has anything been said about if the a_shots profile continued to be used past the ski mask guy incident?

B) It’s hard to believe KAK just up and stopped being involved with CSAM out of the blue one day. Do we know if they found anything on the devices he gave them permission to search on the day of the interview? Apologies if this was in the document and I missed it

 

[MistyWaters]

Why would they take a firearm if LE found one at the Peru resident? He is not a felon and won't be a felon until he's convicted.

However, the Probable Cause warrant does mention KAK had an image of him posed with a black handgun so a gun in mentioned in the PC on bottom of page 2 and top of page 3.

https://www.wishtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Kegan-Anthony-Kline-PC.pdf

If LE believed a firearm was involved in the murders, why wouldn’t they want to locate it? Is that a handgun or a replica in the photo, we don’t know as KAK appears to not have been questioned about possession of handguns.

 

[DeDee]

If LE believed a firearm was involved in the murders, why wouldn’t they want to locate it? Is that a handgun or a replica in the photo, we don’t know as KAK appears to not have been questioned about possession of handguns.

I suppose it is because, according to the PC warrant, they were after data on KAK's devices. It would require a separate warrant in order to seek a handgun from the Peru residence.
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[photographer4]

The change in the poster that LE made and the sketch have really confused me even more than I was before lol. The transcript questions by LE to KAK implied to me that TK could be BG. But we are supposed to focus on the YG sketch on the poster, with the older sketch removed and some details. The YG sketch, if of the online bogus catfish A.Shots looks nothing like him, and as we know, the witnesses saw a partially covered face. So who is he based on? KAK doesn't look like him either. I don't know what to think about anything at this point. Sorry if I don't make sense, but I really thought there was a breakthrough after reading the transcript.

Have we considered a half sib? Cousin? Has LE?

 

[photographer4]

It is definitely a rumor. First of all, the information about a gun cocking on the bridge has never been sourced anywhere but on Gray Hughe's youtube channel and some less reputable places like RL's blog. And it is not from the German family. GH claims that someone close to Anna Williams told him what Anna Williams told them about what the police played for her from the audio on Libby's phone.

Anna Williams has never made a public statement confirming this information about a gun or a gun cocking being shown to her. What you are referencing is hearsay and is at best part of a extended game of telephone. LE has not confirmed it, neither have either of the families, and while what Gray Hughes has claimed may turn out to be true there is no way to know if its accurate or not.

Here's a video from GH where he explicitly says the information you were talking about is a second hand written account someone either sent him or posted on FB.

What is or RL blog?

 

[MistyWaters]

I suppose it is because, according to the PC warrant, they were after data on KAK's devices. It would require a separate warrant in order to seek a handgun from the Peru residence.
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Why would a separate search warrant be required?

 

[Sillybilly]

Why would a separate search warrant be required?

An ITO to obtain a warrant for computer data covers the data and does not cover a gun or anything else. If there was no probable cause for a gun, and there was no gun in "plain view" during their attendance, they would not have been granted a warrant for a gun, as there was nothing to support an ITO to obtain a separate warrant for a gun.

 

[Spartygirl]

LG had taken some sort of course regarding crime sometime before she was killed - I remember it being mentioned that may have been why she had the foresight to hit the video / audio record button while concealing the device...... (MOO b/c I cannot look for the link right now).

Is it possible that LG was looking to catch a predator on her own? Maybe she was trying to gather evidence to turn over to LE regarding A_S? If she had ever threatened to do so to A_S that would certainly provide a motive for murder.

I agree with that.

I thought the very same thing when first reading about A shots and KAK.
We know Libby was into crime forensics/photography, etc and my first thought was maybe she was trying to "catch" a predator.

We will never know what she thought but given her age, and even though smart on the capturing video, etc, I have to believe she was catfished.
But I do like the first thought I had that she was trying to catch a predator in the act. But it cost them their lives, darn it.

 

[FromGermany1]

I agree with that.

I thought the very same thing when first reading about A shots and KAK.
We know Libby was into crime forensics/photography, etc and my first thought was maybe she was trying to "catch" a predator.

We will never know what she thought but given her age, and even though smart on the capturing video, etc, I have to believe she was catfished.
But I do like the first thought I had that she was trying to catch a predator in the act. But it cost them their lives, darn it.

Libby's best friend Abby, who had known probably all of her activities and intentions (or even had the same), unfortunately was murdered also. It couldn't have been worse.