Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams & Liberty (Libby) German - The Delphi Murders - #149

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Earlier I listed what LE may possibly have on this guy.

One of them was items or trophies.

Now I see this:
"According to WISH-TV, citing the search warrant, two articles of clothing from one of the girls was missing from the scene, leading authorities to believe they may have been taken as a souvenir."

Makes one wonder....

That’s definitely new information on clothing.
 
I don’t know the answer to this, I’m curious if anyone knows. Have any investigators or sleuths ever taken the original photo of bridge guy taken by Abby me Libby(not the composite sketch) and then gone to the bridge and have someone stand in the same spot and take a photo and compare photos to discern just how tall bridge guy was, by estimating respective to the surroundings and such?

I‘m not even sure if that would be possible considering, I’m not an expert on those types of things.
 
I don’t know the answer to this, I’m curious if anyone knows. Have any investigators or sleuths ever taken the original photo of bridge guy taken by Abby me Libby(not the composite sketch) and then gone to the bridge and have someone stand in the same spot and take a photo and compare photos to discern just how tall bridge guy was, by estimating respective to the surroundings and such?

I‘m not even sure if that would be possible considering, I’m not an expert on those types of things.
I believe Gray Hughes did that.
 
I don’t know the answer to this, I’m curious if anyone knows. Have any investigators or sleuths ever taken the original photo of bridge guy taken by Abby me Libby(not the composite sketch) and then gone to the bridge and have someone stand in the same spot and take a photo and compare photos to discern just how tall bridge guy was, by estimating respective to the surroundings and such?

I‘m not even sure if that would be possible considering, I’m not an expert on those types of things.
The ones I have seen tend to have him as a shorter male.
 
I don’t know the answer to this, I’m curious if anyone knows. Have any investigators or sleuths ever taken the original photo of bridge guy taken by Abby me Libby(not the composite sketch) and then gone to the bridge and have someone stand in the same spot and take a photo and compare photos to discern just how tall bridge guy was, by estimating respective to the surroundings and such?

I‘m not even sure if that would be possible considering, I’m not an expert on those types of things.

Gray Hughes did something like that, but used bridge measurements and flipped BG's image around to compare. I can't remember the exact height Gray said it could be, but it was quite short.
 
Here in UK you can be arrested on suspicion of a crime but not charged until later (up to 3 days of questioning in most cases unless an extn is applied for via the Crown Prosecution Service).
I've read that this chap has been arrested, but I don't read that he has been charged...
Is there a difference over there?
I just want to be sure that he is not about to be released without charge - as could happen here.
Sorry, I just need to be sure before I pop the champers....
 
Idk…something feels weird about this. It definitely appears to be him, not debating that. Just some random facts swirling in my head that I haven’t connected yet as I try to make sense of this:

5’4” would make a man noticeable imo. That’s well below the average 5’9-10” male. It would be easy to recognize him somewhere other than his job and think “oh that’s the short guy from CVS”

This guy was not hiding. GH showed pics of him regularly out at bars, restaurants, amusement parks, even traveling to other states. He had a customer facing job, where he regularly spoke to known and unknown customers, probably in person or on the phone, 2 miles from this horrific crime that people have been talking about for years.

*IF* the witnesses who saw BG were young adults, they could possibly be in the same age range as RMA’s kids. In 2007 they might have been around 20-24 years old, possibly in college, possibly working, possibly stay at home moms, etc, with perfectly legit reasons to be hiking on a nice Monday afternoon. Some of them have been getting prescriptions filled for the last 5.5 years at the pharmacy where where RMA works. Some of them might be friends with his kids and probably knew him by name as Mr. Allen, so-and-so’s dad. Some might have recognized him as the little guy from the pharmacy.

There’s currently 450 students at Delphi High school, let’s assume there was a similar number 10 years ago.

Delphi’s population is approximately 3,000 people. Say half are male and half of those are adults. 750 adult men or say 1000 adult men if we’re generous.

For years we were told BG’s eye color was unknown but definitely not blue. Yet RMA has strikingly bright blue eyes.

I just expected someone much less visible to the public. Maybe with a job that kept him working alone or with a small group of people or driving a truck. Someone who spent his weekends at dark seedy bars, not out to large family events and frequent date nights with spouse and friends.

I’m not victim shaming, and from what we know so far his wife, children and extended family are also victims, but how did no one see the pics, video or hear the DTH and not be shocked that it’s him?? And sure some people might have had suspicions or been afraid but ALLLLLL of the people who interacted with him daily for the last 5 years? His name never came up publically, on SM, anywhere? I know we aren’t privy to what or who was reported but what a shame if he was and it took this long to get him.

I’m feeling a little deflated right now. Moo
I recall having read an article once wherein Abby's mother was talking about her daughter getting that creepy feeling from some guy at a store - she spoke about it once in a podcast and I'll quote my own post about it below in case anyone wants to hear what she said about it. YOur post made me wonder if *this* could be the guy at the store? Maybe they were in his store / plaza? I don't know. HOw terrifying either way!

 
This is absolutely breaking my mind right now. I know I'm probably jumping to conclusions—or perhaps it's just willful thinking—but Richard Allen looks exactly like the sketch. I can't wait to hear more information regarding the circumstances behind this arrest. What a day!

I agree: 'What a day'. :)
Now I'll stay on my laptop, catching up with posts: too bad about shopping.
Can't wait for more info, to 'what lead to the arrest': probably like everyone else. :) :)
 
Here in UK you can be arrested on suspicion of a crime but not charged until later (up to 3 days of questioning in most cases unless an extn is applied for via the Crown Prosecution Service).
I've read that this chap has been arrested, but I don't read that he has been charged...
Is there a difference over there?
I just want to be sure that he is not about to be released without charge - as could happen here.
Sorry, I just need to be sure before I pop the champers....
Same here. Up to 72 hours.
 
Was he on anyone's radar here at Websleuths?
I’ve never seen his name here of any private social media
Was he on anyone's radar here at Websleuths?

discussion groups or podcasts. I’m sure those individuals harassed over the years are relieved but still frustrated being accused with continuous side by side photos.
 
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