IN - Amanda Blackburn, 28, pregnant, murdered, Indianapolis, 10 Nov 2015 - #2

[MaxManning]

Youre thinking maybe Amanda let them in????


All Imo.

No, I said exactly the opposite! I was kind of just explaining to liltexans why I made an assumption that a door was possibly left unlocked.

I know it can be hard to follow who said what sometimes, but yes, like you I believe she would not have let him in. But that is just my opinion.

I think my wording here might be confusing, but i'm with you on that.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Just want to say (again) the local Indy news seems to be run by a bunch of shysters with damn fine imaginations.

I suggest this is why Riddle got so exasperated.

Police are trying to solve a complicated ugly crime and there goes the local media splashing guesses and outright lies across the front pages.

Shame on you, Indianapolis Media. Shame on you.

 

[SapphireSteel]

This would be news to me. Do you have a link to the footage?

Thanks!

They have released stills.

They are on here.

It was all over the Front Pages.

There's probably a link at the beginning of this thread?

Help me out here regs....its only 5am and one coffee in here...

 

[SapphireSteel]

No, I said exactly the opposite! I was kind of just explaining to liltexans why I made an assumption that a door was possibly left unlocked.

I know it can be hard to follow who said what sometimes, but yes, like you I believe she would not have let him in. But that is just my opinion.

Maybe the perp didn't go through any doors.

Maybe a window was open.

 

[SapphireSteel]

I have missed information about the back door being used as entry point

AFAIK the only information we have is "entry was not forced"

I was merely commenting on the Back Door Theory.

Heck the "burglar" might've climbed through an open window on the side, I don't know...!

 

[kantoo]

I have seen it reported by the media that her debit card was used at a gas station (no pin would be needed) and then one article says her bank card was used at an atm, and another article says attempted to use at an atm

 

[SapphireSteel]

I have seen it reported by the media that her debit card was used at a gas station (no pin would be needed) and then one article says her bank card was used at an atm, and another article says attempted to use at an atm

so....proof that the Indy Media are GUESSING....!!!!:facepalm: if the story came from Police it would be consistent...!!!!


ullhair:

 

[MaxManning]

Where is this footage you speak of ? you say 'we' have the footage. I have only seen still shots. Definitely link if you have seen the full footage.

 

[bluesneakers]

Maybe the perp didn't go through any doors.

Maybe a window was open.

Is climbing in through a window not considered forced entry?

 

[bluesneakers]

I have seen it reported by the media that her debit card was used at a gas station (no pin would be needed) and then one article says her bank card was used at an atm, and another article says attempted to use at an atm

It's both.

Police believe the murder came after a second burglary in the northwest Indianapolis subdivision. Eyewitness News has learned someone used one of the 28-year-old mother's bank cards at a gas station at W. 71st Street and Michigan Road. There is also surveillance video from an ATM of someone using Amanda's bank card.

http://www.wthr.com/story/30558459/persons-of-interest-questioned-in-amanda-blackburn-murder

 

[LINEViBE]

They have released stills.

They are on here.

It was all over the Front Pages.

There's probably a link at the beginning of this thread?

Help me out here regs....its only 5am and one coffee in here...

Are you referring to these?

http://media.theindychannel.com/pho...spect_in_Blackb_0_26944669_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

 

[DexterMorgan]

Most police or feds only are as good as the confidential informants that they catch and release to help bring in information on bigger crimes.

Now your regular drug user who gets caught and sentenced to months in jail will serve a better purpose of being not sentenced to jail but to be sentenced as a forced confidential informant.

This way the police can quickly know who is doing certain crimes and the who is who of the neighborhoods.

Jmo.

But since the police department stopped paying confidential informants for a while. This has detered them from speaking up.

I rather pay a c.i $50 a week for valid info on hardened criminals then paying big overtime slips for cops who have no clue of who is who in the neighborhoods ridden by high crimes.

Jmo

 

[Dushi]

I expect this is true.

Police haven't released many details about their investigation, although they did release surveillance images of a possible suspect. Detectives also recovered a handgun just blocks away from the murder scene. Authorities told the station that a credit card taken from Blackburn's home had been used at various locations in the city. Police said the transactions began the night Blackburn was shot.

http://mmc-news.com/news-3-questioned-in-murder-of-indiana-pastors-wife-amanda-blackburn-333288.dbv

 

[SapphireSteel]

Where is this footage you speak of ? you say 'we' have the footage. I have only seen still shots. Definitely link if you have seen the full footage.

You can use the "reply with quote" button at the bottom to ask direct Q of another poster, but I presume you're asking this of me...?

No, I haven't seen "footage" either but it exists.

If we have a Still from the Footage, that's PROOF the footage exists.

If you look at the Still it appears that the perp is passing other homes and focused on the Blackburn Home.

Why would this be for a "burglar" who is out to randomly hit wherever he can?

Is he psychic? Just somehow KNEW the Blackburns (who seemed to be financially pressed) were the only house in the street with stealable items (that he didn't steal)?

Nope.

The purposeful striding and hiding of the face - he was headed to Kill Amanda.

This was an Execution...

Also, once he killed her, he left, presumably empty handed.

A "burglar" who accidentally killed the occupier, would likely take their sweet time in the home rifling through every single cupboard and drawer for his rewards.

But no - this guy was in, hit, out...

And as Police haven't told us he burgaled the Blackburns imo he didn't....

He wasn't a burglar, the burgalries and the Team of Burglars are Red Herrings.

Police want us to THINK it was a burglary at this point however...

 

[SapphireSteel]

Is climbing in through a window not considered forced entry?

No, as there's no "force". It would however still be considered Home Invasion, a serious crime.

Forced entry = damage...kicked in doors, smashed windows, removed screens, broken locks.

In police speak No Sign of Forced Entry = they did not have to smash anything to get in

 

[LINEViBE]

You can use the "reply with quote" button at the bottom to ask direct Q of another poster, but I presume you're asking this of me...?

No, I haven't seen "footage" either but it exists.

If we have a Still from the Footage, that's PROOF the footage exists.

If you look at the Still it appears that the perp is passing other homes and focused on the Blackburn Home.

Why would this be for a "burglar" who is out to randomly hit wherever he can?

Is he psychic? Just somehow KNEW the Blackburns (who seemed to be financially pressed) were the only house in the street with stealable items (that he didn't steal)?

Nope.

The purposeful striding and hiding of the face - he was headed to Kill Amanda.

This was an Execution...

Also, once he killed her, he left, presumably empty handed.

A "burglar" who accidentally killed the occupier, would likely take their sweet time in the home rifling through every single cupboard and drawer for his rewards.

But no - this guy was in, hit, out...

And as Police haven't told us he burgaled the Blackburns imo he didn't....

He wasn't a burglar, the burgalries and the Team of Burglars are Red Herrings.

Police want us to THINK it was a burglary at this point however...

Incorrect. The surveillance still shows the perp walking in the complete opposite direction of 2812 Sunnyfield Ct (ie. Blackburn residence).

 

[kantoo]

If someone is using her credit cards, wouldn't that be a burglary?

 

[DexterMorgan]

I have seen it reported by the media that her debit card was used at a gas station (no pin would be needed) and then one article says her bank card was used at an atm, and another article says attempted to use at an atm

Agree. When putting gas and using the card at the pump. You only need to type in the zip code and not a pin code.

So gas is easier to achieve with a stolen card if the pin number is not known.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Incorrect. The surveillance still shows the perp walking in the complete opposite direction of 2812 Sunnyfield Ct (ie. Blackburn residence).

So was the Still of the Perp Arriving, or the Perp Leaving?

And what happened to all the other burglaries in the street? Why JUST the Blackburns?

 

[bluesneakers]

No, as there's no "force". It would however still be considered Home Invasion, a serious crime.

Forced entry = damage...kicked in doors, smashed windows, removed screens, broken locks.

In police speak No Sign of Forced Entry = they did not have to smash anything to get in

If anyone climbed in through one of my windows it would be forced. Even if a window is open or unlocked there's a screen in the way. I don't think it's warm enough anywhere in Indiana to leave a window open in mid-November, especially overnight.

Maybe they have a sliding glass door in the back and leave it unlocked? He/they could open it and slide the screen open and there'd be no sign of forced entry.