In Fairness To Cindy

[yosande]

Didn't Cindy wash the clothes that were in the trunk? AFTER she called 911 and said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it.

Do you have a link to that?

I was under the impression that they brought the car home, opened every door to air it out, then GA went to work. CA texted KC that there was an emergency and to call her, then CA also went back to work, and when she got home, she went through the car, washed what was washable, and found AH phone# on a piece of paper. So while the pants, and probably other things were in the washer/dryer, she went to pick up AH. I also would imagine that while she was going outside to give LA space to get out of KC where Caylee was, she transferred to dryer, and washed whatever else she could such as a knife she found. There wasn't blood on it was there? No blood was found in the car? She is the mom. She cleans things. She did not think at this time that Caylee was dead. The third 911 call came in at around 10 pm. GA told CA that the smell was the pizza that had been in the trunk, but was taken out at the tow yard. She never saw it. She didn't know where her granddaughter was, she did know something was terribly wrong but she didn't think she was dead or that her daughter killed her. She didn't intentionally obstruct justice, she didnt know a crime had been committed yet. She only knew her granddaughter was missing, and unless you have a link can you really say otherwise?..
moo :couch:

 

[whiteangora]

Maybe thats why George is no longer a detective. He was not working but He thought his daughter was. .:furious:

What?
Please let us know what that is supposed to mean?:waitasec:

 

[cuppy199]

No, I said I guess at the moment...Im speaking about all of the different emotions this case has caused for many people. (sometime I feel sorry for her, sometimes I cant stand her) I just have compassion for her despite what Casey has done. I dont condone the thousands of things she has said, and done.

I've been just as angry as the rest of you. I feel like I need to say Dang, I'm on your side.

Somewhere I must not have explained my thoughts very well, to have so many people jump on me.

No one is jumping on you shivs :blowkiss:

 

[cuppy199]

What?
Please let us know what that is supposed to mean?:waitasec:

good question I was always under the impression that CA and GA both thought him leaving the force was a good idea for the family.

 

[suzet]

According to her own testimony in interviews with LE, she DID go to Universal on July 3rd to meet up with/pick up Caylee but she wasn't there and KC subsequently phoned her to "explain" why...But this woman STILL doesn't get it! She never called anywhere. She never checked anything. She didn't know, never met the "babysitter/nanny" and she didn't even have her freakin' phone number. THIS is the doting/loving Grandmother? I'm sorry but over 6 months later...This isn't quite sitting "right" with me!

MOO

I'm wondering if there is any proof Cindy actually DID go to Universal, or was this just a lie she told LE to go along with Casey's story.

 

[LisaNY]

Do you have a link to that?

I was under the impression that they brought the car home, opened every door to air it out, then GA went to work. CA texted KC that there was an emergency and to call her, then CA also went back to work, and when she got home, she went through the car, washed what was washable, and found AH phone# on a piece of paper. So while the pants, and probably other things were in the washer/dryer, she went to pick up AH. I also would imagine that while she was going outside to give LA space to get out of KC where Caylee was, she transferred to dryer, and washed whatever else she could such as a knife she found. There wasn't blood on it was there? No blood was found in the car? She is the mom. She cleans things. She did not think at this time that Caylee was dead. The third 911 call came in at around 10 pm. GA told CA that the smell was the pizza that had been in the trunk, but was taken out at the tow yard. She never saw it. She didn't know where her granddaughter was, she did know something was terribly wrong but she didn't think she was dead or that her daughter killed her. She didn't intentionally obstruct justice, she didnt know a crime had been committed yet. She only knew her granddaughter was missing, and unless you have a link can you really say otherwise?..
moo :couch:

So she decided it smelled like death only AFTER she picked up KC and the granddaughter was missing, and she was told that Zany had her and she was sleeping & shouldn't be disturbed? How can it be both ways?? She went thru the car, found Amy's #, said let me do laundry before I get to the bottom of this? Even without a link, I do believe I can reasonably say otherwise, however, maybe someone can help with those links, I will start looking myself.

 

[cuppy199]

Do you have a link to that?

I was under the impression that they brought the car home, opened every door to air it out, then GA went to work. CA texted KC that there was an emergency and to call her, then CA also went back to work, and when she got home, she went through the car, washed what was washable, and found AH phone# on a piece of paper. So while the pants, and probably other things were in the washer/dryer, she went to pick up AH. I also would imagine that while she was going outside to give LA space to get out of KC where Caylee was, she transferred to dryer, and washed whatever else she could such as a knife she found. There wasn't blood on it was there? No blood was found in the car? She is the mom. She cleans things. She did not think at this time that Caylee was dead. The third 911 call came in at around 10 pm. GA told CA that the smell was the pizza that had been in the trunk, but was taken out at the tow yard. She never saw it. She didn't know where her granddaughter was, she did know something was terribly wrong but she didn't think she was dead or that her daughter killed her. She didn't intentionally obstruct justice, she didnt know a crime had been committed yet. She only knew her granddaughter was missing, and unless you have a link can you really say otherwise?..
moo :couch:

I honestly dont remember when she did. But the pizza wasnt thought of until after KC was arrested. And GA even admitted to LE what the smell smelt like and it wasnt pizza.

 

[evergreen]

I feel sorry for her and then I remember her throwing innocent "friends" of KC under the bus, for kidnapping no less, to LE in her interviews. That rapidly "cures" me of this affliction.

 

[mydailyopinions]

Breath in, Breath out..
Count to 10 or 100
And please remember, not everyone shares the same opinion..
:blowkiss:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm wondering if there is any proof Cindy actually DID go to Universal, or was this just a lie she told LE to go along with Casey's story.

I think it is quite telling we even have to speculate if it was a lie told to LE by Cindy. I don't remember another case where a missing child's grandmother was called into question about if what she was telling LE or if what she was saying on tv was the truth.

There are reasons to doubt Cindy. Specific reasons which we did not create...she did with her own statements.

 

[JBean]

Didn't Cindy wash the clothes that were in the trunk? AFTER she called 911 and said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it.

Your post is a bit ambiguous. if you are saying she called LE after washing the pants then yes you are correct.

 

[JaneInOz]

As much as it kills me to say this :crazy: Because I am no way a fan of A's:crazy:But no one made KC a killer she did that all on her own.So with that said is it the parents fault there children kill or become serial killers

Exactly my thoughts.

Mind you when adopted children kill its because they are "bad seeds"

This thread IS about in fairness to Cindy
She is a grandmother and she her granddaughter not even 3yrs old is DEAD and her daughter in jail for her murder.
What a nightmare for any mother to be in.

Where is the compassion in this world ?

Everyone is so ready to put knives in peoples backs these days, to round up the nearest possy and burn people at the stake.
The world is so screwed up everyone clammering to be better than the Jones next door, everyone trying to have more NOW instead of enjoying life...Everyone is so busy working that no one gives a damn anymore
Long gone are the wonderful family get togethers, now its a chore, long gone are the family gathering around to help with a new born baby, now its shove em in daycare and everyone back to work..

The world is moving so fast these days everyone scuttling around like there is no tomorrow and the sad thing is that the way the world is going at this rate there will very likely not be... People are getting sicker quicker, dying of diseases and people murdering one another due to the increase of alcoholism and drugs that seems to be seeping through our youth..
People are getting more mental diseases , stress related problems because of the toxins we fill our lives with, people are just dying before out eyes and we don't seem to care

Its so hard to watch people tear each other down...

I always remember one thing my mum said to me ":There but for the grace of god go I"

I do not necessarily believe everything that is said by either the Anthonys NOR the media...But one thing I do believe in is having some compassion for them on the loss of their beautiful granddaughter and for their daughter

As I said every Mothers and Fathers worst night mare come true...

jmho

 

[Cerenity2u]

According to her own testimony in interviews with LE, she DID go to Universal on July 3rd to meet up with/pick up Caylee but she wasn't there and KC subsequently phoned her to "explain" why...But this woman STILL doesn't get it! She never called anywhere. She never checked anything. She didn't know, never met the "babysitter/nanny" and she didn't even have her freakin' phone number. THIS is the doting/loving Grandmother? I'm sorry but over 6 months later...This isn't quite sitting "right" with me!

MOO

ITA. Her July 3rd visit was simply to meet KC and pick up Caylee at a specified designation like the parking lot or something...and it took her from June 16 to July 3 to even do that. That is 17 days. She never once phoned Universal directly to ask for KC, nor did she ever actually enter into Universal to go directly to her office to find her. She wasn't looking too hard for KC or Caylee IMO.

 

[Elley Mae]

ITA. Something just occured to me as I was reading your post. CA claimed in her 911 call that KC and Caylee had been missing for a month, she found her daughter, but can't find her granddaughter. If she was so desperate to locate KC and Caylee during those 31 days, would'nt the most likely place to find KC be at Universal? At that time, CA was under the impression that KC worked for Universal...so why didn't she physically go to KC's office during working hours to find and confront her? If she did that early on, she would have found out the truth, KC has not worked there in a couple of years. That would have been enough of a red flag to go to police immediately and at least get them involved in finding Caylee much sooner IMO. How is it that the A family claims they were looking for them both, without so much as a phone call to Universal?

Don't forget, Cindy also told LE that she had papers from a lawyer that said if any thing happened to Casey that she would get Caylee, and that was a lie. So Cindy is full of Mistruths.

 

[magic-cat]

In fairness to Cindy...hmmm...ok.
In fairness to Cindy...
Why are we granting this "fairness to Cindy" again?
Because I cannot for the life of me figure out any way for there to be "fairness to Cindy" in all of this. One cannot turn a blind eye to what IS, and THAT is about the only way that I could say "in all fairness to Cindy" about ANYTHING to do with this case.

Cindy knows what a dead human body smells like. She had smelled it before that day. That smell CANNOT be confused with any other. She KNEW the car had housed a dead body, but she chose to deny that to herself, perhaps to preserve her own sanity? I don't know. But from that moment of denial, she spun, created and built a city of lies so tall and broad that you cannot even see from one side to the other. She made misleading statements. She with held evidence when it was requested. She tampered with evidence, knowing FULL WELL that there was the stench of death in her daughters car. She refused to co-operate with Eqqusearch and refused to provide an item of Caylee's so the dogs could get her scent. She misrepresented Casey to LE, to the public, and in all likelihood, convinced her own self that her alter reality that she created was in fact the truth...when it could not have been further FROM what WAS the truth. She never made any effort to look for Caylee her own personal self because she knew Caylee was dead. She put 2 and 2 together pretty quickly-death smell in car-no Caylee-Caylee dead-begin the cover-up.

We have heard quite a few instances when Cindy allowed Casey to not only be a spoiled child, but to actually break the law and she, Cindy, would go right behind her and sweep up the mess that her little criminal daughter was making on her way to murdering her daughter. She ignored her daughter's pregnancy for over 7 months-and being a registered nurse, you can just about gurantee that she KNEW she was pregnant.

In fairness to Cindy?

 

[mikeysmommom]

Didn't Cindy wash the clothes that were in the trunk? AFTER she called 911 and said the car smelled like there was a dead body in it.

I read that Cindy washed the clothes after the police were there and LE did not even look in the car that Ca told 911 smelled like death.LE also left it up to Lee to retrieve Caseys computer and clothes.

 

[txsvicki]

In fairness to Cindy, I don't think enough is known about her to label her a narcissist that molded Casey into being a murderer. Casey had her fooled into thinking that despite everything she would never hurt Caylee and really loved her child. Cindy had to work and support other people for years. As one poster said, Casey probably spent most of her days when not in school with George. People think Cindy has all this control and is cracking a big bull whip, but it looks to me like everyone else controlled her life.

 

[LisaNY]

Your post is a bit ambiguous. if you are saying she called LE after washing the pants then yes you are correct.

Thank you JBean for clarifying. No, I actually thought she cleaned the clothes LONG after KC came home. Actually I thought she cleaned them after LA came back from TL with the rest of the things ... the cigarette smelling clothes. However, that fact still does not change what I was trying to put across. My point was the grandparents are 2 professionals, who let a lot of things that should have been giant red flags get passed them. I am still stuck on how in the world did CA believe any of that Zany Accident story that kc fed her back in june. I don't know when ca started feeling something was wrong, but I believe it to be somewhere around the 4th of july holiday, when she put up the my caylee is missing myspace page. All of this in MOO.

 

[JBean]

ITA. Her July 3rd visit was simply to meet KC and pick up Caylee at a specified designation like the parking lot or something...and it took her from June 16 to July 3 to even do that. That is 17 days. She never once phoned Universal directly to ask for KC, nor did she ever actually enter into Universal to go directly to her office to find her. She wasn't looking too hard for KC or Caylee IMO.

Why should she have? I don't think she felt any urgency to find Caylee until much later. When she did realize something was possibly wrong she did take direct action by tracking her down and having Amy get her in to the apt.She was pretty aggressive when she reached her breaking point. IMO, Cindy had zero idea that Caylee's life was in danger at all. No clue whatsoever.

the funny thing in much of the conversation here is that many think that CA was controlling and coddled Casey and didn't let her be her own person, it is said she even forced KC to have a baby! Yet, when KC does move out and try to do it on her own(as far as GA and CA know at that point) Cindy is faulted for NOT controlling KC's actions and making KC do what CA wanted her too.

The very thing that CA is being faulted for doing in thread after thread is the very thing she is being faulted for NOT doing when some think she should have. Oy Vey!

LOL we can't have it both ways.

 

[whiteangora]

I read that Cindy washed the clothes after the police were there and LE did not even look in the car that Ca told 911 smelled like death.LE also left it up to Lee to retrieve Caseys computer and clothes.

Oh my! I really do not think that bashing LE is going to put Cindy in a better light.