JLM: Other Possible Victims - #2

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http://goo.gl/maps/KFthw

Google map referencing the other two recent bodies found in VA in the last week, and the cited articles.

Does anyone know if they have made a a positive id in either of these cases? Just curious to see if they might match any of the other missing women in VA.

11.7.14

Harvest Drive Carnesville VA

http://wavy.com/2014/11/07/possible-human-remains-found-in-carrsville-woods/

11.4.14

Exit 137 Roanoke VA

http://www.wsls.com/story/27267571/body-found-off-interstate-81-in-roanoke-county


Tempo
Anchorage farm
Old Lynchburg

added as a reference point on the map link above.

For what it's worth, Exit 137 in Roanoke is also right near a creek or stream called Horner's Branch, according to Google Maps. Looks like it goes right under the exit ramp and the interstate itself. I'm not sure how relevant the bodies of water thing is, but there you go.

Salem seems a bit off the beaten path from Charlottesville, but I've only been to Virginia once and didn't see much outside Richmond so maybe someone from the area can weigh in. Doesn't seem any farther than Fairfax County or Newport News, though, from the map.
 
This must have posted before. I do it again for reference.

http://.com/2014/09/29/confirmation...-old-virginia-tech-student-morgan-harrington/

I see the missing cases along a straight line. I presume those are either the missing points or "body fond" points. Is there any pattern of "missing points" being close to the main route and "body found" points be well off the main route ?

If so, then take a radius about the "missing points". Identify area familiar to JLM, Look for vacant or buildings wtih large property away from the road. Identify condition ( a lack of cars or yard items might be a minor hint), Identify creek or thick bands of brush. Perhaps this is a process that will lead to a pattern and spot of interest.
 
For what it's worth, Exit 137 in Roanoke is also right near a creek or stream called Horner's Branch, according to Google Maps. Looks like it goes right under the exit ramp and the interstate itself. I'm not sure how relevant the bodies of water thing is, but there you go.

Salem seems a bit off the beaten path from Charlottesville, but I've only been to Virginia once and didn't see much outside Richmond so maybe someone from the area can weigh in. Doesn't seem any farther than Fairfax County or Newport News, though, from the map.

Only specific from article that may indicate something other than this predator, according the the report you posted: they found a body "of a female and preliminary examination shows no sign of trauma."
http://wavy.com/2014/11/07/possible-human-remains-found-in-carrsville-woods/

The map, I think is missing the potential Newport News, Virginia beach victims, Jamisha Gilbert, Bonnie Santiago and I think maybe others from the list. Maybe Help Save the Next Girl doesn't have a link to it on their site, but the did to this

Search Continues for Missing Fayette County Teen
Posted: Nov 08, 2014 4:12 PM EST
by Cortney Vannatter - Nov 10, 2014 4:54 AM EST
http://www.wvnstv.com/story/2733390...iffs-department-is-searching-for-missing-girl

https://twitter.com/hashtag/findlillyneff?f=realtime&src=hash
 
This may account for some of the many young missing females and the 'skulls and bones' found on Virginia soil: http://www.c-ville.com/designed-hidden-conviction-puts-local-spotlight-sex-trafficking/#.VGD7uXkcR9A

NOTICE ALSO - the states that these enslaved, victimized young girls/teens are routed to as merchandise.

Remember Chief Longo describing the states that JLM had contacts?

COINCIDENCE?

Could the merciless, brutal JLM have been a scout, abductor and/or mule for these criminal sex trafficking rings?
 
This may account for some of the many young missing females and the 'skulls and bones' found on Virginia soil: http://www.c-ville.com/designed-hidden-conviction-puts-local-spotlight-sex-trafficking/#.VGD7uXkcR9A

NOTICE ALSO - the states that these enslaved, victimized young girls/teens are routed to as merchandise.

Remember Chief Longo describing the states that JLM had contacts?

COINCIDENCE?

Could the merciless, brutal JLM have been a scout, abductor and/or mule for these criminal sex trafficking rings?

I would say, nope to that, in this predator's case. He seems way way too selfish to share. But what do I know?
 
This may account for some of the many young missing females and the 'skulls and bones' found on Virginia soil: http://www.c-ville.com/designed-hidden-conviction-puts-local-spotlight-sex-trafficking/#.VGD7uXkcR9A

NOTICE ALSO - the states that these enslaved, victimized young girls/teens are routed to as merchandise.

Remember Chief Longo describing the states that JLM had contacts?

COINCIDENCE?

Could the merciless, brutal JLM have been a scout, abductor and/or mule for these criminal sex trafficking rings?

wow, from what i know of lj, this would be wayyyy out there in terms of likelihood!
 
wow, from what i know of lj, this would be wayyyy out there in terms of likelihood!

It also doesn't really seem to fit with all of the cases JLM is being considered for or has been accused of. There is no reason to think that HG, MH or the 2005 rape victim were being targeted for trafficking, since they all appear to have been brutally raped and/or murdered within hours of their abduction. And given his 2002 and 2003 rape accusations, it appears that JLM is most likely, simply, a rapist and murderer.
 
wow, from what i know of lj, this would be wayyyy out there in terms of likelihood!

What if some of these missing/trafficked women/girls hair and DNA was found in his orange Julius mobile, or in the cab found on the mystery farm?

Guess I'm just hoping LE can tie up a lot of loose ends and round up a lot of dangerous perpetrators and make VA safer for the female sex.

Plus, if JLM has a grudge/grievance about slavery of his ancestors, he might enjoy perpetrating white slavery of females - which is what sex trafficking is - slavery.
 
Only specific from article that may indicate something other than this predator, according the the report you posted: they found a body "of a female and preliminary examination shows no sign of trauma."
http://wavy.com/2014/11/07/possible-human-remains-found-in-carrsville-woods/

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I could be wrong, but didn't it take them a bit to even determine that these remains were female? That indicates to me that they were at least partially skeletonized. I may have misread that somewhere, though, which would change my whole opinion on this (if they weren't skeletonized, then it is very unlikely to be anyone who disappeared any time before the last month or two). EDIT: They were skeletal remains: http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/virginia/2014/11/07/human-remains-isle-of-wight/18665297/ /EDIT

Anyway, if they were skeletonized, trauma such as strangulation or bruises from being struck wouldn't be obvious if no bones were broken. The hyoid bone in the throat is so small it often goes missing in skeletonized remains (or so I was taught in forensic anthropology), so that wouldn't be a clue if the remains are older. It might not be around for them to determine if it was broken or not. Did Hannah's remains show signs of trauma? I know Morgan's did, but the trauma was so extensive I lean toward agreeing with those who believe her remains were run over by a tractor or harvester at some point.

I don't know, really. I just have a weird feeling about this one. But like I said before, they could be completely out of the right time frame or otherwise ruled out. Even if they can't be ruled out, if they are the remains of Autumn Day or Sophie Rivera, after 11 years I don't think it will be easy to connect it to anyone unless they made some major mistakes, unfortunately.
 
In 2006, in Dinwiddie, there were remains found that sound like they are the remains of a trans woman. The remains were found wearing women's clothing . NAMUS lists the remains as male. I think that person could be a victim. The remains were found in a shallow grave, like HM, MH, and CM. Also, I don't think they found a shirt near the remains either, which is like MH. I can't link because I am on a tablet, so someone can Google. There is also a trans woman who was murdered in Baltimore that fit JLM's MO. Tyra Trent was strangled, her body was left in an abandoned building in the basement.
 
I could be wrong, but didn't it take them a bit to even determine that these remains were female? That indicates to me that they were at least partially skeletonized. I may have misread that somewhere, though, which would change my whole opinion on this (if they weren't skeletonized, then it is very unlikely to be anyone who disappeared any time before the last month or two). EDIT: They were skeletal remains: http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/local/virginia/2014/11/07/human-remains-isle-of-wight/18665297/ /EDIT

Anyway, if they were skeletonized, trauma such as strangulation or bruises from being struck wouldn't be obvious if no bones were broken. The hyoid bone in the throat is so small it often goes missing in skeletonized remains (or so I was taught in forensic anthropology), so that wouldn't be a clue if the remains are older. It might not be around for them to determine if it was broken or not. Did Hannah's remains show signs of trauma? I know Morgan's did, but the trauma was so extensive I lean toward agreeing with those who believe her remains were run over by a tractor or harvester at some point.

I don't know, really. I just have a weird feeling about this one. But like I said before, they could be completely out of the right time frame or otherwise ruled out. Even if they can't be ruled out, if they are the remains of Autumn Day or Sophie Rivera, after 11 years I don't think it will be easy to connect it to anyone unless they made some major mistakes, unfortunately.

Yep. There's that qualifying detail of "preliminary" but "no signs of trauma"
 
In 2006, in Dinwiddie, there were remains found that sound like they are the remains of a trans woman. The remains were found wearing women's clothing . NAMUS lists the remains as male. I think that person could be a victim. The remains were found in a shallow grave, like HM, MH, and CM. Also, I don't think they found a shirt near the remains either, which is like MH. I can't link because I am on a tablet, so someone can Google. There is also a trans woman who was murdered in Baltimore that fit JLM's MO. Tyra Trent was strangled, her body was left in an abandoned building in the basement.

SURELY they checked to see if the Dinwiddie remains are those of DaShad Laquinn Smith, [Age 19, Charlottesville, disappeared 9/20/12 &#8211; male black homosexual, dresses as female sometimes &#8211; suspect Erik McFadden - http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smith_dashad.html]

There was a 'slight hit' by dogs at LAKE behind UVA Medical Center in the search for DLS.
 
In 2006, in Dinwiddie, ....

DaShad Laquinn Smith, [Age 19, Charlottesville, disappeared 9/20/12

Unless there's a typo somewhere, I don't think they needed to check.
 
In 2006, in Dinwiddie, ....

DaShad Laquinn Smith, [Age 19, Charlottesville, disappeared 9/20/12

Unless there's a typo somewhere, I don't think they needed to check.

Whoops - I didn't look at the Dinwiddie date - thought this was a recent recovery. Sorry.
 
Anyone hear any news linking JM to AMs car? Just saw a preview of the news and it is mentioned.
 

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