Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #27 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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I don't why, but your phraseology made me chuckle. "Mormon church man".

Very possibly; it was either NPR or HLN. Since you heard the same thing, I'm wiling to bet you're right. I found his name, Christopher Kimball Bigelow.

Thanks for the name, I really bite when it comes to names - I do still remember mine and my doggies - but if I don't hear the name everyday or have a reason to remember it - it is in one ear and out the other!
 
:furious:

It just makes me sick to think that she would actually get in the shower with his body. That tells the whole story of who she really is!

This reminds me of something in the police report and in the crime scene photos. I'm positive JA washed off in the shower with TA's body now and even leaning to the shot first side. The reason why is the box that was in the linen closet. It had a watered down blood ring around the bottom two or so inches. TA's body was covering the drain in the shower which caused the bathroom to flood with the water from JA's shower. I'm sure the clear cup found near TA was used by JA to rinse off or to assist if she couldn't reach the shower head around TA's body well. Then comes the shot vs stabbed first debate. The reason I was convinced of stabbed first was the clean bullet casing on top of dried blood. If blood had already begun to dry when JA showered and flooded the bathroom the casing could have traveled to that position or could have been rinsed off in the process but the dried blood wouldn't have been washed away without some sort of agitation. JA never tried to clean TA up to be humane or anything she cleaned herself up before leaving to "grind" with the next guy.
 
Are you mad at me?
I was trying to help - was gonna offer to scan that video if it would help as I know the topic is sensitive. I personally don't think Travis was doing 99.8% of what the defense is trying to insinuate and am doing all I can to prove it or disprove their dirty lies that malign the victim.

But please, get mad a jodi arias as she is the ONLY reason the discussion is even taking place.

Peace out.

No no no!! Im so sorry, I'm upset at the people of the church that would come on a show and try to talk about the victim and what a hypocrite he was. Not you at all or anyone on this board. I'm sorry I came off that way, I enjoy your posts and agree with a good percentage of this board.
 
Are you mad at me?
I was trying to help - was gonna offer to scan that video if it would help as I know the topic is sensitive. I personally don't think Travis was doing 99.8% of what the defense is trying to insinuate and am doing all I can to prove it or disprove their dirty lies that malign the victim.

But please, get mad a jodi arias as she is the ONLY reason the discussion is even taking place.

Peace out.

Omigosh, I do not think she was mad at you! I assume it's just frustration that this comes up. In my mind it's something that is a real concern, so we should discuss it. Who knows, maybe someone will come up with something brilliant to offset that thinking, if it exists, in the jury members minds.
 
Not that I am aware of. In addition, her phone was off so as to leave no trace of her being in Arizona.

MOO

Didn't she have another phone with her from Gus Searcy? The Helio Ocean phone or is that the phone she's claims to have lost then found the charger to?
 
Didn't she have another phone with her from Gus Searcy? The Helio Ocean phone or is that the phone she's claims to have lost then found the charger to?

I'm glad you brought that up. That threw a kink in my phone theory as well. Anyone have a clear answer? TIA
 
This reminds me of something in the police report and in the crime scene photos. I'm positive JA washed off in the shower with TA's body now and even leaning to the shot first side. The reason why is the box that was in the linen closet. It had a watered down blood ring around the bottom two or so inches. TA's body was covering the drain in the shower which caused the bathroom to flood with the water from JA's shower. I'm sure the clear cup found near TA was used by JA to rinse off or to assist if she couldn't reach the shower head around TA's body well. Then comes the shot vs stabbed first debate. The reason I was convinced of stabbed first was the clean bullet casing on top of dried blood. If blood had already begun to dry when JA showered and flooded the bathroom the casing could have traveled to that position or could have been rinsed off in the process but the dried blood wouldn't have been washed away without some sort of agitation. JA never tried to clean TA up to be humane or anything she cleaned herself up before leaving to "grind" with the next guy.
No way no how do I believe that she hopped into that shower with him after she'd massacred him to death. Yay Travis! I think he scared the living heLZ out of her when he didn't instantly die after her first assault. It's likely that he wasn't even clinically dead by the time that she had cleaned up and left. She did not hop in with him and shower...jmo
 
I'm kindof suprised that no one has thought of this yet, but, since we know the defense is trying to paint Travis as a sexual deviant they have a way of making that photo of Travis even though the hands aren't his. I would bet that they will claim that Travis is bi-sexual and that he had another man holding his male member when Travis took the picture of it. The defense may also claim that this was another way that Travis was abusive to Jodi since he knew that she was at a PPL meeting/convention thing with other folks around her that could see the pictures when she opened them.

MOO
 
She finished High School in there too! Lucky girl.

ehem. Taxpayers unite.

Yes, we did pay for it, and are also paying for her lying azz to be fed, clothed , health care, dental, laundry, et. a;., and receive colored pencils on the tax payers dollars!! DP, please. Poor Travis.
 
Omigosh, I do not think she was mad at you! I assume it's just frustration that this comes up. In my mind it's something that is a real concern, so we should discuss it. Who knows, maybe someone will come up with something brilliant to offset that thinking, if it exists, in the jury members minds.

Yes, thank you! Travis paid the ultimate price for whatever his involvment with Jodi was. So did his family. They are always first and foremost in my mind.
 
She has been in prison these past few years and just like Casey Anthony has adapted well, is keeping busy with her art and has made some friends. Hopefully this case will bring justice unlike the other case.

She hasn't made it to prison yet, hopefully she will be there soon tho and she will have a harder time!

She has been in jail awaiting trial for the last 4 1/2 years.
 
Off Topic, but I wanted to say to all those in the line of the blizzard - stay safe and know that I'm thinking of you! Weather is something that really scares me and I hope that y'all are prepared for all the snow! Stay warm!
 
I know that Juan is a great prosecutor and probably has all of the information on everything in this case (I hope) but, does anyone think that the finger comparisons between Travis and The Penis Man should somehow be brought to his attention before he has a chance to cross examine her?
 
Omigosh, I do not think she was mad at you! I assume it's just frustration that this comes up. In my mind it's something that is a real concern, so we should discuss it. Who knows, maybe someone will come up with something brilliant to offset that thinking, if it exists, in the jury members minds.

I know a LOT of Mormons very well and, if there is one on the jury, there is no way in the world that they will not believe that Travis was a hypocrite and that his behavior was damnation worthy, imo. On the other hand, I also don't believe that they would ever allow a pseudo-Mormon like Jodi to walk because, between the two of them, she was just as bad in some ways and far worse in others, and not really a Mormon anyway. In short, I don't think it's Mormon jurors, if any, that would be of concern. jmo

eta: any Mormon juror also would not publicly pronounce their sentiments about Travis unless HE were the one on trial, and probably not even then. also imo.
 
Maybe it doesn't matter (except to Travis's family) but as far as the case goes, maybe it just proves she's a liar. Again.
 
I don't want the defendant to have any hope, not even the slightest, that she will ever get out of jail.

That's not in our control. It's up to the jury and the judge and whatever appellate courts she eventually appeals to (assuming a conviction, of course). And that doesn't begin to cover the Karma she faces from her murderous act when she departs this life.
 
Yes, we did pay for it, and are also paying for her lying azz to be fed, clothed , health care, dental, laundry, et. a;., and receive colored pencils on the tax payers dollars!! DP, please. Poor Travis.

Yep. ALL PAID FOR by the well meaning, hard working public. DP isn't even really Dp. The appeal process ensures that it rarely gets carried out. The only thing it does, as Travis' sister has pointed out in interview, is limit what she has access to (mostly other people) and other interactions.
 
I honestly believe the naked pictures found on the camera were staged by JA. The picture of her reclining on the bed in braids is off. The look on her face is a bit scary if you ask me. Her eyes are kind of crazed looking and creepy. And the picture is out of focus. Maybe because there's nobody behind the camera to focus the picture properly. :dunno:

Something is wrong with those pictures. Neither one of them looks like they were enjoying it. I'm sure we've all seen a *advertiser censored* pic or two, and the look on their faces is nothing like what you normally see ('nuff said :rolleyes:).

I would like to know what happened between around 1:30 when those pics were taken, and 5:20 or so when TA is in the shower. I think at some point he asked her to leave. Maybe after sex, who knows. She might have been expecting that. She had sex with him in order to trigger the rejection that she needed to fuel her anger.

I see that anger simmering just under the surface in that picture of her on the bed. And I think that's what Travis saw in that last picture of him in the shower. That's when he knew what she was truly capable of. People see different things in his eyes in that picture. I see fear and resignation. Like many others have said, that picture haunts me more than any other picture in this crime :cry:.
 
I'm kindof suprised that no one has thought of this yet, but, since we know the defense is trying to paint Travis as a sexual deviant they have a way of making that photo of Travis even though the hands aren't his. I would bet that they will claim that Travis is bi-sexual and that he had another man holding his male member when Travis took the picture of it. The defense may also claim that this was another way that Travis was abusive to Jodi since he knew that she was at a PPL meeting/convention thing with other folks around her that could see the pictures when she opened them.

MOO

I don't agree at all. That is just a far-fetched statement that will probably get carried on through gossip and before we know it, that rumor will be floating around! There isn't any reason to come up with more outlandish statements about Travis. There already is enough going around! :(
 
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