Doesn't seem possible to zoom on that last one?
Are you saving it to your computer then zooming? Is that a towel or mat by TA's right foot?
Doesn't seem possible to zoom on that last one?
OK, that does look like a towel by his foot.Are you saving it to your computer then zooming? Is that a towel or mat by TA's right foot?
Thanks for stepping up to the challenge and giving it a shot. A few comments:
Why would Jodi have let Travis get up from a vulnerable seated position an a small enclosure before initiating the attack? This is the biggest problem with your theory. Travis is a physically imposing man to Jodi. Seated in a small shower stall puts him an ideal position for Jodi to initiate the attack. She is now standing above him, and he is trapped without any leverage. But I think knife-firsters need the attack to start outside of the shower because it would make no sense to start trying to stab Travis in the shower while he was sitting down. This does not represent an ideal target at all for a knife attack, as vital organs are not exposed. However, it represents a very nice target for a sudden gunshot to the head. And of course the bullet trajectory matches this scenario perfectly. In the final shower photo, Travis' right side is toward Jodi. Travis is shot in the right forehead. The bullet trajectory is down through the face. Travis is sitting down, Jodi is standing up with the gun. It is simply a perfect fit.
In your scenario, Travis gets himself up and out of the shower before the attack begins. He would likely have dried off prior to using the toilet in your scenario. Then he uses the toilet. Then Jodi approaches him with the camera to show him the photos. He takes the camera, Jodi suddenly stabs him. All this in 45 seconds? What is Jodi doing, standing by with the camera while Travis dries off and takes a pee?
After Travis picks himself up near the toilet (following the initial attack and knocking Jodi back/down), he travels to the sink, faces the sink for several seconds coughing blood. If he had an advantage over Jodi with her off her feet or knocked back, why would he not take advantage of this and try to fully subdue her? Instead, you have him turning around to face the mirror, leaving himself completely vulnerable to another attack from behind?
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Dave
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I think the bottom picture is a good one to show you her foot. You can see it is her right foot. The heel is twoards you as you look at it, you can see it is the right lateral or outer aspect of her foot and her toes pointed towards his right shoulder. It also shows that she has her foot planted flat but it is dug in like she is leaning to the left and doing something requiring her to lean left and dig her foot in. (Think of a skier cutting left) I think she is pulling up on him.
Sitting in the shower is not the only vulnerable position he could be in. All he needs to be is unsuspecting. The Trajectory for the bullet through the skull does not match up real well with him sitting in the shower. To get from the where the bullet entered the Frontal Bone to where it re-entered the Ethmoid Bone at midline, is a very steep angle. Too steep for her to be 3-4ft back from him (which would put the gun at the 2ft minimum distance). I've taken a skull apart and looked at it. It is much steeper than many perceive it to be. So, I disagree that the trajectory matches up perfectly with how he was positioned in the last known picture of him.
He stopped at the mirror because he had to. He is having trouble breathing. He has been stabbed at least a couple of times. He is in early stages of shock, and he makes it to the sink turns to look at the damage and coughs. This could have taken no more than 2 seconds It isn't like he is stopping to do a detailed analysis of the wounds. He squares up for a second to take in what has been done to him and he involunarily coughs. It hurts. He clutches his chest and/or his stomach, and doubles over the sink in pain resulting in the vertical drops of blood on the sink surface.
Most people's first instinct in dealing with an assailant with a knife is to get away from them. My guess is that your first instinct would be stronger after getting stabbed. He is trying to get out of the bathroom. It is hard to predict whether a person is going to shut down, try to run, fight back, or some combinaton of running and fighting. We all like to think we would fight back from the start, but this is rarely the case. These are the people that usually live to tell the story. It appears that he tried to both fight back and get out of the bathroom, defensive wounds and his apparent path down the right side of the hallway, but did not make it. Pain and fear cloud the mind. It would be impossible to predict why he did or did not do something that seems clearly the choice for us who are trying to speculate on what he could haveshould have done.
There is nearly 2 minutes from the sitting in the shower pic until the dragging pic. So there was some time between the sitting and ceiling pics (I can't find the ceiling pic with a time stamp on it). I beilieve it was about a minute between those two. That would be plenty of time for him to pee and her to get the knife while he is peeing. She may have got him when he stepped out of the shower after drying off. He didn't have to got to the toilet. She comes at him from the right which forces him to his left toward the toilet and scales.
In my opinion, for what that's worth, the attack truely started at about the time of the ceiling pic. Whoever had the camera dropped it as the attack started. I'll get to the rest of your response in a few.
I think she took them from a restaurant, too. She had worked at a variety of them.
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Yes. The stripes have to be on the outside of the sweat pants. Her toes shape is the confusing part. Right foot it is.
OK, that does look like a towel by his foot.
Wow, see in this one I CAN - for the first time - see it as her right and not left foot. thanks:clap:Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #26 *may contain graphic and adult content*
I think the bottom picture is a good one to show you her foot. You can see it is her right foot. The heel is twoards you as you look at it, you can see it is the right lateral or outer aspect of her foot and her toes pointed towards his right shoulder. It also shows that she has her foot planted flat but it is dug in like she is leaning to the left and doing something requiring her to lean left and dig her foot in. (Think of a skier cutting left) I think she is pulling up on him.
Here's what I put together yesterday. I think this is the match, as the tile grouting matches in addition to the tile marbling. In the comparison you found, the tile grouting does not match.
Here I've compared two scenarios: one in which the foot in the photo is Jodi's right foot (state's scenario) and one in which the foot is her left foot (potential for knocking the camera with her right foot).
Btw, I think I'm in 'right' camp....
Dave
Hemodynamically speaking, I think he was in severe hypovolemic and cardiogenic shock (and pericardial sac hit too so he would have been starting to tamponade as well) before the throat slashing happened. Even though his vessels would have been clamped down to shunt blood to vital organs, he just didn't have enough pressure to really spray much blood as the carotids were cut. He merely bled out massively on the carpet with what little pressure he had left.
It would be nice to have better (clearer with better lighting) pictures of the scene. Maybe the originals are better, but all the ones I have seen leave something to be desired. That formation in the tile near her heel in the dragging picture appears to be very distinct and it should be easy to find in the hallway.
I believe you are mistaken here.
Of the knifes accounted for (actually in the house) at the time his body was found - there were no definite matches to the wound pattern.
Of the knife sets - all were accounted for.
It's extremely common to have knives in a home that are not part of a set. Normal, actually.
Until the knife is found (if it ever is) - there is no way to know where it came from.
It would be nice to have better (clearer with better lighting) pictures of the scene. Maybe the originals are better, but all the ones I have seen leave something to be desired. That formation in the tile near her heel in the dragging picture appears to be very distinct and it should be easy to find in the hallway.
I personally think that the bullet ricocheted off the skull and that explains the odd trajectory. The ME couldn't rule this out.
I believe the testimony is that all knives from the home were accounted for and none of them match the murder weapon.