Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #29

[dixiegirl1035]

She actually said they were smoking “a cigarette,” which I thought was strange. Because there was two of them.

If I saw two people outside smoking I would say there were two people outside smoking. I wouldn't even think to need to add the identifier of them smoking a cigarette. Just seems strange to me, as I wouldn't think of anybody smoking anything else in my neighborhood in public iykwim. Pointing out that she felt the need to say it wasn't marijuana?

 

[Horror]

Has JH moved out? Add your thoughts to @ScarlettLin and we might have a good possibility.

I’m guessing and have no idea. Maybe I need that
“Thinking out loud” thing.

 

[nyvictoria]

Well I'm heading off to bed but I think you're on the right track @ScarlettLin. By the time I get up tomorrow some'new info will probably drop and I'll be scratching my head saying Now What!!

Poor Lucas. He overcame so many struggles but didn't get a chance to grow up. I hate Emily Glass!!

 

[PhoneJockey]

Ok, I can’t find the case I was thinking of, I apologize.

I did, however, learn a ton about forensics and drowning. I have to say that after reading 50 thousand articles on it that I have serious doubts that after all of this time an autopsy would be able to confirm a drowning. It made me feel a little better since Lucas had a fear of water.

So, if the NG rumors are true, what else would lead LE back to the bathroom of all rooms at this late date?

Possibly a head wound in the shape of a common fixture in bathrooms, like the tub faucet? Or porcelain chips from a toilet. Something.......I don't know.

 

[kkdj]

Perhaps they used luminol to see if there was any blood left behind. You'd be surprised how long blood lasts on a floor or walls- you can't see it yourself, but it is still there.

I've thought that perhaps a removable shower head could have been used to hit him on the head.

Something chipped off the tub, sink, or toilet and got embedded in his hair or clothing?

I'm thinking an indentation in his skull that fits with something from a bathroom. Remember, DM thought he died of a concussion. I think something was noticeable.

 

[jnblsm]

I know I don’t post a lot, but reading this daily. The only thing that sticks out in my mind is how people when their kids do something they disapprove of refer to them as “your kids” to the dad/Mom. Could EG have been frustrated with one or both the kids when she refered to JH as “their dad”? I hope that theory makes sense, essentially distancing herself from both kids when she uses that wording IMO. At the time of the interview she knew where LH was, and knew where MH was, and I’m guessing had a pretty good idea MH wouldn’t be in her custody anytime soon. She slipped and distanced herself from both children, and JH I feel.

I totally get this!
Sometimes I get mad at my parents and I'll tell my sister about what her parents have said or done. She does the same

 

[PhoneJockey]

I dont think she will hurt anyone else.
That would require walking and chewing at the same time .
Shes to busy trying to construct a new story and timeline.
But you never know.

I don't think she'll hurt anyone because she's a coward who targets defenseless children and I'm pretty certain no one wants to leave their child unattended in her care at this point. Jeez, I hope not at least.

 

[hopingicanhelp]

Even if the driver didn't intentionally hit CR, it doesn't mean CR wasn't lured into the road one way or another by someone hoping to make him look guilty. He was known to frequent the area, and someone knew his weak spots -- constant hunger, possibly needing medication, possibly running from something or trying to get somewhere, possibly addiction. I do not know CR and not saying anything about him--just entertaining a possibility.

We don't know the exact address. What is the exact address of the incident?
I have read the 5500 block from KAKE and the 5200 block from KWCH -- so Kellogg/Oliver or Kellogg/Edgemoor. Close enough proximity either way, but The Wichita Eagle states CR was "attempting to cross at Kellogg and Oliver." The exact address can tell us if it was on the access road above or the actual highway underneath. But why try to cross on the highway below when following Oliver bridge over Kellogg with stoplights can make the trip MUCH safer?

Even if Magic Mike (btw, @Hatfield, this is the gift that keeps on giving) was not behind the wheel and the name of the driver was pure coincidence, my gut is telling me this death was intentional to some extent. I remember when this happened and immediately thinking it had something to do with Lucas' case--but then told myself I was just caught up in the location. No idea about EG inviting him in.

I won't try to guess CR's state of mind, but I think it's fair to say he may have been manipulated into believing he would be the patsy for Lucas--what is he to do? Who would believe him over...?

If that tactic wasn't employed, there are other ways to convince vulnerable people to engage in risky behavior, such as crossing a highway, if there was a promise of something on the other side.

It sounds crazy. Prove it happened. Prove it was murder.

I believe that while there is actual circumstantial evidence pointing to her killing Lucas, those are the words EG meditates on with every crime or indiscretion. They are not the protests of the innocent--they are the words that guilty people count on. Prove it. Prove that you're right and I'm wrong. Prove I did it - I bet you can't.

 

[deedee21]

Ok, I can’t find the case I was thinking of, I apologize.

I did, however, learn a ton about forensics and drowning. I have to say that after reading 50 thousand articles on it that I have serious doubts that after all of this time an autopsy would be able to confirm a drowning. It made me feel a little better since Lucas had a fear of water.

So, if the NG rumors are true, what else would lead LE back to the bathroom of all rooms at this late date?

Perhaps a head injury.
Shape of some sort on the skull.
Match it Up to something in the bathroom.

 

[PommyMommy]

Hernandez autopsy could take 'several weeks'

An email from a Sedgwick County spokesperson to KSN news today confirmed the autopsy is pending, but added, it "can take up to 90 days to be completed. It will be several weeks yet."

 

[ScarlettLin]

Hernandez autopsy could take 'several weeks'

 

[AlwaysHopeToHelp]

Please don't take this as a criticism but initials can be quite hard for the brain to process in a case where there are quite a few players and a lot of posts to read, EG, MH, JO, JH, DM, CR etc. and it's a tax on the old brain to keep seeing a new one MZ frequently thrown into the mix and having to think who is that.

Amen! Who the heck is MZ? I missed something somewhere as I’ve not heard of this new person?

 

[kkdj]

I don't think she'll hurt anyone because she's a coward who targets defenseless children and I'm pretty certain no one wants to leave their child unattended in her care at this point. Jeez, I hope not at least.

Well, she does have that cousin with children............

 

[PhoneJockey]

Amen! Who the heck is MZ? I missed something somewhere as I’ve not heard of this new person?

There isn't a new person, that user was just using the MZ in lieu of "Ms.", as in Ms. Emily Glass.

 

[Steelslady]

You know, this bathroom business is just like when we were trying to find something to do with gravel (kudos to margharita on all the awesome articles she found on gravel). It will be something so simple, we'll smack our heads afterwards when Eureka strikes. Just like it did when we finally found out why the gravel was so important after Lucas was found.

 

[Steelslady]

Hernandez autopsy could take 'several weeks'

An email from a Sedgwick County spokesperson to KSN news today confirmed the autopsy is pending, but added, it "can take up to 90 days to be completed. It will be several weeks yet."

Yes. I said earlier in this thread, we're probably looking at late July early August. A lot can happen between now and then.

 

[margarita25]

Re BBM
That is a good point. I hope LE is able to question them if the timeline is around the time she took LH out to the bridge area.

They may be able to help LE and not even realize it.

From looking at pictures of their house other than the driveway area there is not a lot of places for people to be mingling around near their house. The street is a busy street on Edgemoor and the side street where the driveway is is not really the front door area. From our VI we know the picture exists now but EG story about it is hard to swallow. It could become important to LE to check it out.

Lets hope LE is able to check everything out like this to get whatever evidence they can. I am keeping my hopes up that LE is going to surprise us with lots of evidence they have uncovered.

I agree with this mingling aspect, it is an out of place spot as it is residential... I suspect they were there, invited by EG herself, for the purpose of consuming and/or purchasing drugs (and or sex). Perhaps she was afraid someone had seen them, or they might be remembered during canvassing, so she came up with that scenario just in case, and/or as you guys mentioned, seeking a scapegoat(s).

 

[Gardener1850]

What sort of things are in most bathrooms? Toilet, bath, shower, sink, toiletries, medicine cabinet?

Why would NG say it's now believed, after autopsy 2, that Lucas died in the bathroom?

Why would LE have to return to the bathroom? Did they miss something on their first look and have to go back after a surprise finding in the autopsy?

I find it hard to believe they didn't take cadaver dogs in during the first week. It might be a possibility, I just find it hard to believe.

BBM. Shower curtain?

 

[hopingicanhelp]

Thank you for transcribing @Kadoober!

NG: What is it about Emily that attracted you in the first place?

JH: Well she, she’s a very attractive girl, she you know, we had a lot of the same interests, and, um, she, it was, it was pretty effortless as far as getting to know her and communicating with her, and it was almost like we had known each other long before we had met.

This is so typical of Borderlines/Sociopaths! All that BS!

JH Interview with NG.docx

BBM.
I can just picture the convo:
jh - I like abc
eg - omg, me too!
jh - I really, really like xyz
eg - get out, you are reading my mind!
jh - I have a passion for lmnop
eg - were we separated at birth? or are we just soulmates?

 

[jnblsm]

If I saw two people outside smoking I would say there were two people outside smoking. I wouldn't even think to need to add the identifier of them smoking a cigarette. Just seems strange to me, as I wouldn't think of anybody smoking anything else in my neighborhood in public iykwim. Pointing out that she felt the need to say it wasn't marijuana?

Yeah, I would say they were smoking cigarettes.