bbm~ It's bugging me that TS worked at Stilettos, has been gone for two months (per Mgr. who didn't appear on camera). Jaren worked at Stilettos (per someone named Christy) but had gone over to work at Temptations, months ago.
If the above is true, Jaren and TS would know each other. Also he would know to go to Temptations first if it was she he was after - unless someone from Stilettos was in on it for some reason.
Or, did he have a thing for Jaren and wanted it to be her. Why didn't he know that Jaren could be found in Temptations and not Stilettos (MAS asking SR if she was ?(no name given))? If Christy is correct, Jaren moved over to Temptations prior to TS leaving Stilettos. Why go into Stilettos first? When you were the doorman there just two months ago? When the girl you will kill in a few hours works next door? Why show your face at all in either place?Why not just send MAS in to solicit your prey?
Was Jaren someone else's ultimate target? His druggie gf was told to go get Jaren but she didn't know the reason therefore, she was willing to take SD, even though she wasn't Jaren. Then, while speaking to the manager and SD, TS found out that Jaren was working next door. In other words, Christy has her times mixed up as to who worked where when and maybe Jaren went over to Temptations after TS had already left Stilettos.
I'm trying to determine if it was Jaren specifically TS was after (at point, MAS could be clueless as to what the night would ultimately bring).
Moo of course but several details point to Jaren NOT being a specific target and those details coming from LE actively on the case lead me to believe that Jaren was indeed NOT targeted specifically..
Detective Grannan who has been leading up the investigation from the moment Jaren's torso washed up on the portion of beach in the county of which he is sheriff.. it is he that has cleared up a couple of different points for me.. one is his talking about the fact that there are two dancers from Stilettos that were approached during their shifts by MAS.. They indicate that it was MAS who was doing the propositioning while TS seemed to sit back allowing MAS to do the work.. tho, its not specifically indicated that the dancers knew or were close with TS from his having worked as the doorman at Stilettos, IMO it is a given that they knew who TS was and as the manager states TS was always polite but kept to himself as in shy.. MAS is the one that detective Grannan states that both the dancers indicated they were leery of and the dancers described her as freaky.. IMO its not at all unusual for the female to be doing the propositioning in a situation where a couple are interested in bringing a third or fourth party into their sex life(as I can personally attest to this and on more than one occasion over the course of the past decade in being propositioned by the female of a couple who were interested in "swinging" and were feeling out the situation to see if hubby&i were game for it.. and these occurrences were in just a regular bar atmosphere rather than at a gents club) ..so while it is not at all unusual IMO for the female to be the one that approaches another female to proposition her.. what was IMO different that IMO both of these other dancers immediately picked up on was that this wasn't just a regular proposition.. there evidently was a hinkiness to the proposition which IMO set off each of these girls instincts that something was just not quite right.. and that MAS was described as freaky due to that vibe that she seemed to be putting off..
Moo but I believe that by the time the couple left Stilettos that it had become apparent that the proposition of the girl joining the couples sex life was not at all working well for whatever reason and that upon their entering Temptations that it had been decided that TS was going to take over the reins(and is why we see him enter with such confidence/purpose with MAS seeming to trail behind) .. i believe that TS confidently approached Jaren who there was already somewhat a level of trust established from having worked with and walked her out many a night after her shift ended to her car.. i believe he approached her and said hey, Riot you wanna go make a few hundred extra dollars for this private party, Ill take ya and I'll stay to make sure no one messes with you.. it'll be a quick and easy $500 you can make ..so what do u say?
As we know from detective Grannan there is more than one witness(as in multiple witnesses that overheard her as well as the manager who Jaren spoke to) that heard Jaren go ask the manager could she go ahead and leave a little early to make extra money at a party.. and that IMO was the very beginning of the end for Jaren.. she grabs her stuff and as we know at 2:05am she along with TS/MAS leave out of Temptations and head on foot a few blocks down and over to where its likely that MAS was parked and they all 3 left together..
IMO there is a VERY SPECIFIC reason that Jaren accepted the offer that we know 2 other dancers were not willing to accept.. many ask then why did Jaren accept? Was she more desperate? More naive? ..IMO the answer is no to both of those questions and the reason that Jaren accepted was because it was not the "freaky" girl, MAS that approached Jaren.. detective Grannan is very specific in that it was the female, MAS That both of these dancers were leery of, that they were getting the freaky vibe from.. it was Margaret that they altogether did not trust in the least and what was the reason for their declining all offers made by her.. IMO by the time the couple left Stilettos TS KNEW FULL WELL THAT IF HE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THE GIRLS TO GO WITH THEM THAT IT WAS HE THAT WOULD HAVE TO APPROACH AND PROPOSITION.. and IMO that is exactly what he did when he entered Temptations.. i believe that is exactly why many believe that his demeanor on video was determined, with purpose as he eneterd that club.. because he very much was of that frame of mind.. he intended to succeed in what MAS had so miserably failed at two times in the other club.. he entered Temptations and IMO upon his seeing Riot/Jaren, he immediately set his sights on the prize that he knew he could win.. he knew that due to the fact that he knew that he had a level of trust in place with Riot in his having many times before served as protector in walking her to her car after an early morning shift was over.. he knew that if he approached her with a confident demeanor with actual purpose, not to mention that the offer would also greatly be of benefit to Jaren.. and well.. that's exactly what, why, and how the approach and proposition that was offered to Jaren was successfully done and exactly why we saw the 3 leaving together a short 17 minutes later..
IMO there isn't anything left to speculate upon as far as what was the ruse used by these two that successfully got Jaren out of the club and into the clutches of these two.. as in some speculating it was simply an innocent ride home.. that's not what occurred and we have the lead detective on the case sharing with us what exactly that was offered to Jaren that she wilingly left with the two..he clearly states that there is more than one person that heard Jaren ask the manager to leave early.. not only asked to leave but stated the actual purpose for her leaving and that was to go to a party that she was going to be able to make extra money for going to.. that plain and simple is what TS approached Jaren and offered her.. he had a party that was in need of entertainment that if Jaren would agree to go to that she would be paid $500(as memory foam shared as the dollar amount that Jaren was offered) ..I believe that it was TS confident demeanor,simple to the point offer with a dollar amount that sounded appealing, as well as a believable amount, combined with Jaren having a level of trust in TS from their having worked together.. it was those combined that IMO led Jaren to without question or even hesitation accept the offer, and was out the door and on her way ..
IMO it wasn't at all that Jaren was different from the other two dancers that declined.. she was NOT more naive.. nor MORE in need of cash.. it wasn't Jaren at all that was the factor that changed the outcome of her accepting where as the other two declined.. the reason was because it was not the freaky female, who was clearly putting of the vibe of DESPERATION that Nand describes that she saw&felt from MAS.. MAS did NOT approach Jaren.. IMO TS approached her with confidence and believable offer that quickly led to her accepting.. that IMO was the difference.. that IMO was the entire reason why Jaren accepted and left with the two when the other girls declined..
TS knew full well when he left out of Stilettos club that if he was going to get what he wanted/needed to happen that night(that being for whatever reason to have one of the girls to leave with he and MAS) ..HE KNEW FULL WELL THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.. HE KNEW MAS FAILED MISERABLY AT IT.. he knew if he once again allowed MAS to enter into Temptations To once again try to approach one of the girls.. he knew they'd be leaving empty handed.. he knew full well if he wanted something done right.. well by God then he had to do it himself.. and that's exactly what we see when he enters Temptations.. a determined and with purpose man enter that club with a very specific agenda to which he full well intended to succeed in leaving out that front door with one of the girls from the club leaving with the couple..
And 17 minutes later that is exactly what we saw happen when he, MAS, and Jaren left out the front door of that club at 2:05am..
