Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.22.17 - Day 20

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Crown Jill Cameron calls the next witness, Matthew Ward-Jackson. He wears an Adidas track suit, and his face is covered in tattoos.

Cameron takes him through his lengthy criminal record, mostly for weapon charges.

Cameron says she's never met him but worked on cases involving him since 2015.

"It's been a rough couple of years for me," he says.
by Shannon Martin 12:55 PM

Ward-Jackson tells the court he's here against his will.

Cameron explains that he's been offered no deal for his testimony today.

Ward-Jackson says he went to elementary school with Smich.
by Shannon Martin 12:56 PM


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Next witness Andrew Ward-Jackson. Crown going thru his criminal record. Admits to drug/guns record.
"Yes it's been a rough couple of years"

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Ward-Jackson says he is here against his will, and has not been given anything in exchange for his testimony.
 
Apologies, I stepped away for a few minutes while the jury was out. I'm back at it. :)
 
July is before November.

That's why I said not so sure. It's the statement that only DM's DNA was found on the gun that has me doubting. Without knowing the caliber, and if ballistics confirmed the gun was used on WM, it's a possibility.
 
Cameron directs him to 2012.

Ward-Jackson hung out with his sister, he says, in Oakville.

He says he only saw Smich "coming and going" but they didn't talk.
by Shannon Martin 12:58 PM


Ward-Jackson points out "Dell Millard."

He knows him through "the occasional run in."

He says they were introduced through "their mutual appreciation of vehicles."

Ward-Jackson noticed Millard's car in a parking lot and went over to compliment it.
by Shannon Martin 12:59 PM
 
Crown Ken Lockhart is back for re-examination.

"If Millard told you, 'I killed Laura,' what would you have done?"

Michalski, "I don't know."

Lockhart, "You would've called police?"

Michalski, "Of course."
by Shannon Martin 12:30 PM
Hahahahahaahhahhhaahha
I'm literally laughing out loud.
Ya ok AM
We all believe you

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Oh come, he is highly qualified in so many areas! I would be sighing. Is this the first we have heard of his being a chef?

Ya a Chef of Chunky soup and fish crackers :happydance:
 

Millard suggests Michalski can have sex with Christina Noudga.

Michalski, "That's ok man she's yours."

Millard, "yea in the summer will be better. she needs to get into better shape."
by Shannon Martin 11:10 AM

What in the ******.
 
Not gonna get much out of him. He lives by street code and does not want to be seen as a rat to his "homies" in the bin
 
Not gonna get much out of him. He lives by street code and does not want to be seen as a rat to his "homies" in the bin
Especially there against his will. And nothing in exchange

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Not gonna get much out of him. He lives by street code and does not want to be seen as a rat to his "homies" in the bin

He brings a certain element of charm to the proceedings though, don't you think?
 
Especially there against his will. And nothing in exchange

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I would put him up on the stand just to see the interaction with DM, hoping for a slip-up or to glean new info.

ETA: I am not a lawyer, just moo!
 
In 2012, Ward-Jackson says he frequented an apartment near Royal York and Dundas - Millard visited him there, once. Smich never went there.

Cameron points out a number of phone numbers, but Ward-Jackson can't remember if they are his. His nickname at the time, he says, was Ish.

Cameron asks, "Isho?"

Ward-Jackson says "Isho is a group." He was in the group.

"An uneducated person may have called me Isho," he explains. "Someone who is not familiar with the lingo of our group."

by Shannon Martin 1:06 PM


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Dec 2012 his nick names were Krucifix14 and Ish.
Isho was a group, and he is Ish of Isho.
Admits "tools" means guns.


That changes the meaning of "tool box" in relation to the TB events, doesn't it? We know what was in the "tool" box now.
 
Especially there against his will. And nothing in exchange

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That may still work in the crown's favour. We heard that both DM, CN, MS, and MM chilled with the dude. Appearance has an impact, even if you don't think it should. MOO
 
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