LE wants to interview the parents separately

[Marshmallow]

If the parents had cooperated with from day one ,another Q and A session may not have been needed.

The KCPD now has an ego? wow

darn that pesky LE for trying to find a missing child how dare they do that when the family would rather talk to tv cameras?

and a baby is still missing. but the family's attys can pollute the tv shows with everything but the missing child.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

OT: Jane Velez-Mitchell filling in for Nancy Grace this hour. Talking about the Lisa Irwin case.

 

[marge_rita]

Powerful. :seeya:

:thumb: :seeya:

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Respectfully edited.

Sadly, a baby's body may also be decomposing jmo

And I'm really starting to wonder if that isn't the goal for JI and DB.

If it isn't, then let's get jiggy with it and start talking, folks.

 

[Cappuccino]

A cautionary tale that serves no purpose because NOBODY has confessed in this case, NOBODY has been interrogated for 14 hours and NO BODY has even been found.

JMO

And the only reason that nobody has been interrogated for 14 hours is because JI stopped the interview after 11. Then they lawyered up. So for those who think they should have sat there and allowed the interrogation to continue forever, and not lawyer up, Kevin Fox is an appropriate cautionary tale.

Its not a sign of guilt to exercise your constitutional rights, its merely a sign of common sense. I don't know whether these parents are guilty or not, but I do know that if I was in their position, and I was innocent, I would also have stopped talking to the police and hired a lawyer.

 

[Just K]

LE has repeatedly said they cooperated until Oct. 8.

Actually, they were due to meet with LE on Saturday the 8th and couldn't agree on the details. They spent a bit of time on the phone with LE but this was only after they took a full days break. They opted to do the lengthy interviews with JJP instead of going to sit down with LE. Essentially, communication had already broken down by Friday the 7th. That is when SY announced they were disbanding the command center and the first time that LE publicly stated that the family was no longer cooperating. By Saturday AM, they thought that the lines of communication were going to be open but , again, the family stalled and, IIRC, they spoke only by phone on the 8th.

 

[JeannaT]

And I'm really starting to wonder if that isn't the goal for JI and DB.

If it isn't, then let's get jiggy with it and start talking, folks.

I'm very interested in your opinion, MountainKat. It seems to me that you've completely changed your mind in the last couple days. If I have you confused with someone else, I'm sorry.

If you've changed your mind, what changed it? TIA

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I'm very interested in your opinion, MountainKat. It seems to me that you've completely changed your mind in the last couple days. If I have you confused with someone else, I'm sorry.

If you've changed your mind, what changed it? TIA

I'm not sure what you mean, Jeanna. Changed my mind about what?

 

[marge_rita]

No... she can't. There is not enough evidence yet to charge her with murder, unless they have a whole lot more than we know about. It takes a little more than ONE hit from ONE dog, (which could be unreliable) and we don't even know whose deceased body was on that floor, it could have been from years ago.

Not according to our WS sar expert sarx.

 

[JeannaT]

I'm not sure what you mean, Jeanna. Changed my mind about what?

About the innocence of Deborah.

 

[Amster]

Yes, droves. It seems like about every couple months, there is yet another person railroaded and finally released - sometimes - off death row.

Actually, it's horribly embarrassing and I'm embarrassed for my state. The latest aggregious case is in my own county - Williamson County. Michael Morton was in prison 25 years for murdering his wife. In an act of bad faith, the prosecutor hid evidence (a guy I actually voted for) and then when it came to light that he had not had the bloody bandana dna tested, he dug in his heels and refused to test it until there was a court order. Sure enough, it was comingled blood of the true murderer and the woman, not Michael Morton. Horrific. Just a few months prior there was another man, a black man, I forget his name, was imprisoned for the majority of his life for rape. innocent. The true perp confessed about a decade ago but they refused to run a dna test.

We all have our different perspectives here. My perspective is, I almost always believe LE's hunch. But when it appears to me they are wrongly persuing someone, I'm cautious and aware.

I'm still sick that I voted for that damn DA that was responsible for Michael Morton spending the majority of his life in prison, and I hope the further investigation lands that man in prison.

Google innocence project. It's an education.

I don't need to google. I have lived in Texas most of my life. I don't believe there are "droves" of wrongly convicted people, here. I also don't know what this topic has to do with Lisa Irwin. Different state.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

About the innocence of Deborah.

No, I've never changed my mind. I've always had problems with both Jeremy and Debbie's accounts of what happened that night. Those problems have only increased for me over time.

I was on the fence about Jeremy for a week, though. Then he started talking. :fencefall:

 

[Sigh Sister]

The discussion on this case is certainly getting heated. There is so much that we don't know, I don't understand how anyone can say with certainty that the parents are involved. I have been swayed at times by some info that has been released (i.e. the cadaver dog hit), but there isn't ANY information at this time that is the "smoking gun". And I don't trust the MSM. So much of what is reported is edited for sensationalism. No mystery as to why LE requested raw footage. As for LE, they are only human and fallible like the rest of us. Some people get tunnel vision and can't see anything but what they want to see. JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Joe Tacopina?? Well, I'm not gonna take what he says as gospel

He had some pretty outlandish scenarios in the Melanie Mac Guire trial, I know that much...and I also know they did not sway the jury. JMO

 

[Kamille]

LE has repeatedly said they cooperated until Oct. 8.

On October 8th, the parents, along with their lawyer CS went in for questioning. A full 4 days after their daughter went missing. LE announced that they were relieved that the parents were co-operating again. However I believe that was also cut short because they were restricting the questions. That is likely where the other 6 hours in the 17 hours equation comes in. If they are going to pick and choose what they will answer that is not very productive IMO.

They have not returned to the station to be interviewed without restrictions since. Even though their daughter has been missing for 21 days now. LE does still try to reach out to them by calling them and asking questions pertaining to tips that they receive. So they will only answer questions that pertain to the abductor theory.

MOO

 

[Peazzzer]

Seriously, I beleive what I beleive about this case and the only thing I know for sure is something stinks and a baby is gone. If I had been drunk and not remembered anything, I sure as heck would be beating down the door to talk the people who could help me peice it together. LE FBI would be sick of hearing my voice. The sighting of the man w a baby, the greiving statement, the drunkeness, my word. I would do whatever it took to find my baby, except of course, if I was guilty. Moo

 

[sorrell skye]

Are you sure? On the 8th is when Jeremy asked for a break, and I believe it was early on the 9th when LE said they weren't cooperating. If I remember correctly, Jeremy was quite surprised that after asking for a break LE went to the microphone very quickly and announced they weren't cooperating.

Oct. 6 (2 days after Baby Lisa went missing) is when it was reported that the parents had stopped cooperating.

From this ABC article (dated Oct. 6):

"The mother and father no longer want to talk to detectives," Young said. "From an investigative standpoint, we enjoyed their cooperation. So far, [it] has been very beneficial to the case. But yeah, you can imagine it doesn't help the case" that the cooperation has ended.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-lisa-parents-stop-cooperating-making-lists/story?id=14679914

 

[Hopeful2]

I don't their refusal to answer questions against them but I do view it as evidence of their guilt. If LE eventually takes the death penalty off the table for the first one to crack, I'm okay with that.

JMO

I am not understanding this.. "I don't their refusal to answer questions against them..":waitasec:

I am a mom.. I have a baby about Lisa's age. They look similar. They both appear to be happy, well dressed, loved, thriving children. I understand the theory of wanting to protect your innocence so that you don't have to worry about being taken away/ haven taken away your other children. They obtained a lawyer. Two, in fact. I think- after following this case and putting myself into this situation- i have to agree that i would do WHATEVER IT TAKES- to bring my sweet infant baby back to me. More interrogation? Sure. Local media harassing my innocent self- bring it on. I can NOT IMAGINE a scenario where i would not be talking/ communicating with the LE to get all/ any info they needed to find my sweet baby. Now, i know in critical care flight transporting- i see people on the worse day of their lives. They dont expect their loved ones to be carried off by a helicopter after experiencing a life threatening illness or accident. I have seen reactions that i neither expected nor loved. So i KNOW not to judge based on reactions. But PLEASE, mom and dad, fight for your sweet baby. And if you know of her demise, let the people who have been praying and looking for her know where she lay. Some day we will all have to give an account, better now than at the Throne. (sorry if offending... I am passionate about this sweet baby girl).:whiteflag:

 

[Desdemona]

Let's say that someone has taken your child and you know this without a doubt. When you report it the police get in your face for hours and accuse you of killing your child. Every time that you talk to them they don't ask you anything about anything that has anything to do with your missing child unless it is them pointing a finger at you and asking you what you did with that child.


How long do you put up with it even though you know you are innocent and had nothing to do with it? A to of people keep saying if you have nothing to hide then you won't mind talking to the police but if their actions are abusive and appear to be useless how long do you put up with the abuse?

Never having been in that situation, I nevertheless predict that my reaction would be: As long as it takes. Endless hours of interrogation would never be "useless" to me in this situation -- I desperately need LE to do whatever they have to in order to rule me out. I will be willing to tolerate whatever it takes to be cleared, so that LE can get busy doing everything in their power to find my precious missing baby. If I'm innocent, my missing baby's fate is WAY more important than my own personal comfort. I would let them dig and dig until they were satisfied that they were barking up the wrong tree. I would gladly answer any and all questions, truthfully and at length, over and over again, just on the chance that something, anything, might be a clue that could lead to her recovery.

DB's (and JI's) unwillingness to go the distance for Lisa and their drive to protect their own behinds, along with the odd details and changing timelines in the story, are what have kept me firmly down off the fence. JMO

Little Lisa, Where are you??

 

[marge_rita]

Well..That was then... This is now..So lets do it again...NOW..JMHO

EG,
So simple and logical.
Again what parent (s) refuse to meet with LE ?
What parent (s) refuse to answer LE questions?
:waitasec:

imo