LEE Takes Memorial Away from Front of House

[not_my_kids]

I think tha fact that the Anthony's keep doing things like this, things that will draw attention and spark controversy, shows the major problem with the whole family.

I have taken to calling it the "I hate you, don't leave me" syndrome. It used to apply to each other, now it applies to the media and essentially the whole world.

 

[Carolina Girl]

Exactly, they weren't in denial, they were in cover-up mode.

Yep, they were in coverup mode.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Yeah, I'd react like you, not take it as anger at people wanting to memorialize and pay tribute to the deceased.

The thing is ...it's for Caylee...I just think that the family has always failed to see that, not just now. They are all IMO used to it being me, me, me and that's what I can't bear. Hopefully one day they may realize and even come to appreciate what a difference Caylee has made in SO MANY lives. I truly do hope that will help them somewhere down the road.

 

[BostonSu]

Well then by gosh why have an autopsy? Let's just skip the formality and expense of that since we all believe it to be Caylee. (sarcasm).

It is premature because she has not been formally declared dead. Period. I also believe it to be Caylee...but I certainly wouldn't go put up a cross in their yard at this stage. Lee was quick and hasty to pick the stuff up because he was being harrassed by the media while he was doing it and just wanted to get it and go back inside. Could he have done it in a more sensitive manner? Probably - but he certainly doesn't have to. I don't think he intended it to be disrespectful, just like the person that put it there was probably not intending to be disrespectful.

LE declared Caylee to be dead some time ago, in fact.

 

[SuziQ]

Exactly. Why do it at the Anthony's house? it is just a haven for controversy and pain.

Why not just let the flowers be? How about Blanchard Park? That was public property. I'm all for understanding what someone might be going through, but heck, when does grief and denial make "everything" ok for them to do? Grief and denial does not give someone a free ticket to do and behave anyway they choose. It does not give anyone the right to break the law (in reference to the entire family,time will tell), and if they want to behave uncooth and without class the rest of us that views that as behaving badly have every right to feel that way.

 

[TxRose]

I would, just as Leonard Padilla decided to have a memorial prior to her body being found, even Tim Miller stated this is Caylee. The DNA Id is a formality for legal reasons. Who else do you think this dead body could be?:doh: It's like asking who else could have been the dead body in Casey's trunk. Logically, it's Caylee, now her body has been found, the official grieving can begin, the ID is only a matter of time.

You don't have to convince me. I understand all that and am quite aware of why it is likely Caylee. I believe it to be Caylee. But they still don't have a formal announcement whatever way you slice it. Would you begin funeral arrangements without positive identification? Would an insurance company pay benefits without a positive id? No. It is still an important step - even if just a formality. It removes any lingering doubt...no matter how small. And you can bet if the A's really did believe their granddaughter was alive all this time...they will still be hanging on to that 0.0000001% chance it is not her. So slapping a cross out there is not right in my opinion. My opinion only perhaps.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[LinasK]

I think that smacks of disrespect and "we told you so".

I'm sorry, I don't see it that way. I did agree with the protesters because Caylee was killed by her own family, they did no searching for her, Casey never did report her missing (as has been misrepresented in the media lately), and they are covering for her killer. I have no sympathy for this family. My sympathies are reserved for the victim.

 

[Pondering Mind]

I am not trying to be difficult here, but I don't see how you can compare this to what the A's have gone through and the situation surrounding this case. Losing a loved one in a car accident, or due to illness, and having people set up a memorial can't possibly compare to memorials left at the A's home. This has been a site of 5 months of gawkers and protestors who have constantly put up signs and other displays of their disgust for the A family. This could easily be seen as something intended to rub it in their faces. I, for one, am starting to convince myself it was intended to rub it in...mainly because a cross was put up before the death of Caylee has been formally announced. I think that smacks of disrespect and "we told you so".

Excuse me, but do you have any idea of the circumstances surrounding my sons death to which LinasK was responding to? I didn't think so....

 

[not_my_kids]

LE declared Caylee to be dead some time ago, in fact.

Actually, lets be fair. LE proclaimed their belief that she was dead some time ago. Actually having someone declared dead is a seperate legal proceeding.

 

[LinasK]

Sorry, my message didn't come off as I wanted it to. I didn't mean they wanted to be left alone. It's just my opinion that they should be left alone.

Yes, they got in front of cameras. Mostly Cindy. And what I heard her say, over and over again, was that she was looking for a "live" Caylee and her purpose was to spread the message that her granddaughter was out there and to ask for help in finding her. She made a million actions in word and deed that she didn't want to hear from anyone about a deceased Caylee.

I believe that was not denial, but a cover-up to keep the search fund monies coming in. I mean even after she was told by phone on the plane of the discovery of the remains, she continued to state it couldn't be Caylee because Caylee is alive, then immediately on-board , managed to hire another criminal defense attorney.

 

[LinasK]

You don't have to convince me. I understand all that and am quite aware of why it is likely Caylee. I believe it to be Caylee. But they still don't have a formal announcement whatever way you slice it. Would you begin funeral arrangements without positive identification? Would an insurance company pay benefits without a positive id? No. It is still an important step - even if just a formality. It removes any lingering doubt...no matter how small. And you can bet if the A's really did believe their granddaughter was alive all this time...they will still be hanging on to that 0.0000001% chance it is not her. So slapping a cross out there is not right in my opinion. My opinion only perhaps.

I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Personally, I think I might be contacting a funeral home, but that's just me. I think the Anthony's have known for months that Caylee is dead, but aren't admitting it publically. As another poster just stated LE had already declared Caylee dead from the evidence they had prior to discovering the remains.

 

[TxRose]

Excuse me, but do you have any idea of the circumstances surrounding my sons death to which LinasK was responding to? I didn't think so....

I am sorry if that is the way it came across. Honestly. I wasn't saying you specifically. I do not know what your circumstances were...but I was trying to say the Anthony's certainly aren't a typical situation. This is no memorial for Princess Diana who died in a car crash...or someone killed by a drunk driver.

I am sure many people see the memorial as a lovely gesture. I am sure many people would be moved to have a memorial left to their loved one. But we were discussing Lee's behavior in taking it down. I said that I thought I understood why he might have done it, and that I could see how it might have been viewed negatively by him. Everyone has the right to react differently.

 

[Mermaid]

I'm looking all around and can't find the video of Lee removing the memorial-- is it online somewhere??

I saw it on Fox News.

 

[JBean]

Why not just let the flowers be? How about Blanchard Park? That was public property. I'm all for understanding what someone might be going through, but heck, when does grief and denial make "everything" ok for them to do? Grief and denial does not give someone a free ticket to do and behave anyway they choose. It does not give anyone the right to break the law (in reference to the entire family,time will tell), and if they want to behave uncooth and without class the rest of us that views that as behaving badly have every right to feel that way.

HISuzi. I am only talking about this incident. Flowers are not for those that have passed on, they are for us living to feel better by contributing and paying respect. My only issue is that why not just leave these people alone right now? We all have a pretty good idea what will happen if we leave things about Caylee being dead around their house. If I wanted to set up a memorial or donate flowers i would do it away from their house. We could almost guess what would happen.
Funny thing happened at my son's school. A 16 year old girl waltzed into the lunch room and promptly placed her purse on a table and left the room. The purse flopped open and sitting right on top was $6 or 700 in cash!
Some of the students grabbed some money.It was a big to do.
Of course the kids that stole the money got in trouble.
But so did the young girl that brought the money. Because even though her actions were innocent, we all could have guessed what would happen.It just wasn't smart or well thought through.

 

[whiteangora]

LE declared Caylee to be dead some time ago, in fact.

The Anthonys knew but they would not admit it. We know the reasons why, one of them is chomping on peanut butter cups in her cell.

I am trying very hard to keep in mind that we will now have many posters back here who left earlier to form their own Anthony support or Caylee is alive forums. Those places are now disintegrating and we will be bombarded with the falling of seeds of doubt.

I refuse to get into any p-ssing matches with any of them, my beliefs will not wander, just a heads up to all to beware and not get lured into a time out or an outright ban from here,:blowkiss:

 

[BostonSu]

Actually, lets be fair. LE proclaimed their belief that she was dead some time ago. Actually having someone declared dead is a seperate legal proceeding.

OK I give you that.

Still, decomp, death band, 6 months missing, LE had very good reasons for thinking it.

I'm seriously wondering, (not trying to be a smart a$$,at all) but is there still anyone who believes she's alive? Are there still hardliners out there lurking?
Just curious!

 

[RR0004]

Caylee is not there to see them, but George and Cindy are.


JoAnn_W

People are hurting. It is quite "normal" for those that want to show they care to place flowers where the child was last known to have been alive. It happens all the time. It's an expression that they care...plain and simple.

 

[TxRose]

Personally, I think I might be contacting a funeral home, but that's just me. I think the Anthony's have known for months that Caylee is dead, but aren't admitting it publically.

Now we can agree! LOL. I think George definitely does...Cindy seems to be trying to convince herself she wasn't. But I also believe deep down she knows too. I think they just don't want to lose their daughter, and Cindy doesn't want to admit their family isn't the "picture perfect" one she likes to describe to everyone.

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Why not just let the flowers be? How about Blanchard Park? That was public property. I'm all for understanding what someone might be going through, but heck, when does grief and denial make "everything" ok for them to do? Grief and denial does not give someone a free ticket to do and behave anyway they choose. It does not give anyone the right to break the law (in reference to the entire family,time will tell), and if they want to behave uncooth and without class the rest of us that views that as behaving badly have every right to feel that way.

:clap::clap::clap:
I must say your post is right on.
Grief and denial. The 2 biggest excuses for everything. I swear if I ever get in trouble for anything I am using those 2 beautiful, magic words. Those two words have excused some of the worst behavior I have ever witnessed in my life...and I hang out with a bunch of bikers.

 

[Mermaid]

When Princess Diana died, the flowers were placed outside of the gates at Buckingham Palace. As we all know, it would be nearly impossible for most folks in the UK to travel to France to place the memorial flowers at the actual accident site. I believe that most people who bother to purchase/leave any type of "memorial" token have not only the deceased in mind, but the surviving family as well.

People across the country have been touched by this tragedy, and people who have no personal connection to the Anthonys feel such emotion and want to remember this little girl and also feel sympathy for the family for their loss, and this is their way of paying tribute and extending sympathies. It's pretty simple, and I think the Anthonys should just ignore it if they find it too disturbing. Why get all riled up about something you have no control over? To keep removing every item placed there in kindness/sympathy seems futile and hurtful to those who've left them.

The difference here is that Casey is the one who killed Caylee, and she lives there too. If she was killed by anyone else, the flowers might not be offensive to the family. Yes, we're all horribly sad for little Caylee, and outraged that Casey's family is lying to protect her, but this is their family, their grief, their property, their thing.