LINative13
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I wouldnt belive a word that snake says. He lies as much as CPH.
I wouldnt belive a word that snake says. He lies as much as CPH.
I concur.
And... where's that rumor info? Wasn't there s'pose to be "news" today of something?
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Inspector, I tend to believe that there is some order in the universe and that events that happen are related in some way. I also believe in mathematical probabilities.
You or I for an example. We may end up dead tomorrow as a result of an accident. That is life. No big issue. But if you called 911 today and said somebody is trying to kill you, what is the chance you would die by an accident the next day? The probability becomes astronomical. Not many people who call 911 in fear for their lives, dies by an accident the next day.
You can say SG died by accident, there was no foul play involved and her death has nothing to do with the LISK. But real life is not like that.
Here is the statistical proof, in the hundreds of years that records have been kept for Oak Beach, how many people have died in marsh land area? Was SG the first and only? I think so.
If SG died climbing Mount Everest, that would be a tragedy, but understandable because 200 others have died in that mountain. How many people have died in the Oak Beach marsh? I believe the number is zero prior to SG.
So look at it statistically, a woman calls 911 in fear for here life, and her body is found where nobody else has died of natural causes before. What is the probability she died of natural causes?
You can accuse us of having 'confirmation bias' but the reality is as it appears.
SG called 911 in fear for her life; she died, her body was found where nobody else has died, it could have been an accident, but not likely.
If you ask a Vegas bookmaker, what are the odds that SG died naturally, he would be happy to take your money.
MOO
Most people die on or near a date that is significant to them in their lives.
Big difference between offering assistance and saying you treated her
I'd like to believe her, but its just not credible given the rest of the information we have.
I respectfully disagree. You're basically proving my point. I would suggest some research on coincidences in probability theory.
The likelihood that she died of accidental causes is actually quite high. I believe that you and other subscribers to the SG theory have the type of tunnel vision that fails to consider alternate theories.
Consider this:
How many people do we need in a room to guarantee a 50 percent chance of at least one birthday match? The answer is 23.
If we want a 50 percent chance of finding two people born within one day of each other, we only need 14 people, and if we are looking for birthdays a week apart, the magic number is 7.
You state that you believe in some order in the universe, and I think inherent in that statement is that you discount coincidence and randomness as part of the universe. This is not the case.
Consider this: 3 of our first 5 presidents died on July 4th. Why? I would suggest that this was random.
How about these coincidences?
http://www.school-for-champions.com/history/lincolnjfk.htm
Also, consider:
"September 11 (9/11) for instance. 911 is the number used for emergency cases. The twin towers looked like the number 11. So perhaps all the things that happened had something to do with the number 11. Let us look at a few of these. First: 9 + 1 + 1 = 11, the first flight to hit the twin towers was flight 11 with 92 people on board, 9 + 2 = 11. September 11 is the 254th day of the year 2 + 5 + 4 = 11 (also 365 254 = 111), there are 11 letters each in New York City, Afghanistan, the Pentagon, and George W. Bush. Also, New York was the 11th state admitted to the union, 119 (1 + 1 + 9 = 11) is the area code to both Iraq and Iran and flight 77 that crashed in Pennsylvania had 65 people on board, 6 + 5 = 11. Finally, recall the March 11 (2004) attack in Spain. There are exactly 911 days between this and the September 11 (2001) attack. These are all interesting, but do they mean anything?"
The alternate theory that you haven't considered is:
- Shannan called 911 in some mental state of medication/psychologically-related medical distress, and she ran into dark swamp and died of hypothermia or drowning after getting hopelessly lost.
- Some guy called her mother in the days following her disappearance (CPH) to offer his assistance. He got her number because he happened into two people looking for her, her driver and her pimp/BF.
- SG's mother, desperate to have police focus on her theory, said some things to police and then publicly about this guy's phone call in an effort to put additional pressure on police to investigate her theory.
- Given that all this happened in a remote location, there was a fairly high probability that other bodies would be discovered in the area, which they were. Note that 900,000 people go missing each year in the U.S. Sure not all go missing because of death, but a large number do. Where are all the bodies? You say that nobody was ever found in the area of OB prior? How about 10 different victims found along a 10-15 mile stretch of that road? In retrospect, it does not seem uncommon at all that this area would be used as a dumping ground for a serial killer.
I'd also note that police have in fact said that they believe Shannan's death was an accident, not a homicide.
So I go back to my request. Consider for a minute that you're wrong, and I'm right. How would you approach the case of the Long Island Serial Killer, starting with the little evidence that we have related to the GB4, Manorville and the other victims that were clearly homicides?
"just not credible" ?
You have absolutely no reason or evidence to suggest MG isn't credible and doing so is very offensive. On the other hand we have all seen the overwhelming evidence that illustrates CPH's history of pathological lying.
CPH's credibility is completely shot and has been since the mid 90's. There are only 2 people who know what was said during those calls, MG and CPH. You have shown us all exactly how bias you are by trying to discredit MG when CPH is a bankrupt confirmed pathological lying fraud. Your time of taking poor people for fools has ended.
Good day sir.
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If I were a mother of someone who died unexplicably (God forbid) I think I would much prefer to believe she drowned than was killed by a homicidal serial killer. I wouldn't be insisting on further investigation unless I had good reason to believe otherwise! JMO
I do not think MG is the pick of the litter either. We all have skeletons in the closet.
All this talk about CVS and prescriptions is far off base.
For starters, there is zero proof that CPH ever met SG. There were no prescriptions written by CPH for SG. If there were, the investigators could easily know this without even stepping foot or calling CVS or any pharmacy because since around 2005 all of the prescription pads (or software that prints them) are regulated and distributed by New York State. They include bar codes and serial numbers.
Likewise, If CPH was involved in some sort of prescription drug ring he would have been outed by now because there is an easy electronic trail for the investigators to follow.
As far as the run to CVS, let's get the facts straight. There was never actually any mention by anyone of CVS. We only know of CVS of West Islip because of some very short entries on SG's cell phone records provided by her mom to the public to see. Pak did say that SG hung up on him because he refused to drive to a drug store to purchase playing cards & personal lubricant. We can assume she was thinking he could go to CVS just as we can assume that maybe she only called CVS to find out if they were open that late at night/early morning. But that's all we can do is assume.
Sample of an official NYs prescription;
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