LIST LIST Questions and Answers #7 LIST ONLY

[LancelotLink]

What ever became of the bag of toys and clothing found by Keith Wms.? Was this ever collected by LE?

 

[mitzi]

What ever became of the bag of toys and clothing found by Keith Wms.? Was this ever collected by LE?

As far as we know, per KW, Cain threw it back into the woods on Suburban.

 

[doogiesgirl]

I've been reading over the doc dump from 1/21/09 and the origin of the DNA parentage test report that OCSO obtained is bugging me. It was mentioned so many times in discovery that this question might take me awhile to ask so please bear with me.

In CSI Bloise's report on evidence collected from the vehicle and sent to FBI it has a list of evidence collected from the vehicle (Casey's white Pontiac) on 7/16/08. The report was typed on 7/28/08 and here is the link: http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html
See pages 1 & 2. The DNA test is labeled as Art#1, DNA Parentage Test Report, K-1, Item Tag #H52043. States that evidence above was collected from the trunk. On page 5 & 6 it again says this evidence was collected from the vehicle.

So my question is did the OCSO find a DNA Parentage Test Report in the trunk of Casey's car or is it either a mistake in the reports or am I interpreting the reports wrong? I want to know where this DNA parentage report come from?

This data was released to the public on 1/21/09 and on 1/28/09 Casey's attorney, J. Baez filed a motion asking for discovery. Item 23 on his motion was: "Copy of DNA parentage report as listed in discovery page 3240 which was in possession of OCSO as a result of the search of the Anthony home in July 2008." Here is a link to page 3240 of the discovery (p. 25 of viewer): http://www.wftv.com/news/18530350/detail.html
It is a OCSO Property Form and it is dated 7/25 or 7/26/08 (I can't tell which) at 17:30 hours. It states location property rec'd as: Forensics office. I guess CA could have voluntarily brought it to OCSO on this day, but for some reason I doubt that. If the DNA report was Jesse G's and obtained from the Anthony's house or turned over by CA, why would Baez have to ask for it in a motion? I would think Casey or CA or JG could and would have provided a copy to Baez if asked.

I can not tell where OCSO obtained this DNA Parentage Test Report. If it was from a search of the Anthony's residence like Baez states in a motion, I can't find the paperwork stating that. I've found searches done at the Anthony's on 7/17 & 7/18/08 but both days were only searching in the backyard and a DNA report was not metioned. The next items collected were on 7/21/08 and included toothbrushes, hairbrush, comb and thermometor from the home again no DNA report metioned. The next items reported by OCSO removed from the home is on 8/1/08 which was after the report on 7/28 listing the DNA parentage report.

I have searched on WS all day and only found one mention of this test being listed as found in the car and the poster stated the OCSO report was being misread. This may be true or not. When Baez filed the motion in Jan-08 for a copy of the DNA report a thread was started and all assumed he was asking for Jesse G. test but JG was not mentioned anywhere in relation to this discovery or defense motion.

Sorry all, I know this is the longest question ever but I didn't know where else to post this. What I really want to know is where did OCSO get this DNA parentage test report from - the car or CA or the house during search?

Great question, sorry I can't answer it for you. I am right there with you though as far as paternity. There is something not quite right....I hope we find out what that is in the end. jmo

 

[TotallyObsessed]

Regarding the 5/1 doc dump....I thought we were supposed to get statements from the female body guard, Tracy??? Have I missed that?

 

[LEFT-COASTER]

ok.. here is my question.. did JB ever get his secure server set up so he could get the autopsy report??? Seems i remmber them getting that report.. a while back.. if they did.. why in the heck is LKB saying they only got the autopsy on the snake and not one for Caylee.. Gawd im tired of these people. (the defense team)

 

[Pink Panther]

Regarding the 5/1 doc dump....I thought we were supposed to get statements from the female body guard, Tracy??? Have I missed that?

Nope...You haven't missed them. They haven't been released yet. We're still waiting...

 

[klaramaria]

I for one am dying to find out what the liquid was in the Gatorade bottle with the possible syringe...I think this all was found in the Disney bag.

 

[LancelotLink]

As far as we know, per KW, Cain threw it back into the woods on Suburban.

Thanks. I was thinking more along the lines of when LE worked the recovery scene during Dec. 11-20, if this bag ever resurfaced. I thought we had seen these items photographed somewhere.

 

[RubyB]

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Sorry all, I know this is the longest question ever but I didn't know where else to post this. What I really want to know is where did OCSO get this DNA parentage test report from - the car or CA or the house during search?

None of the above. I do agree that the documentation of how this report came into evidence is confusing.

The DNA parentage report is JG's. Because Caylee's DNA was previously analyzed for the purposes of determining if JG was indeed her father, it was a definitive exemplar of her known DNA. JG offered the report to LE/FBI to use for comparison purposes.

 

[affinity]

Can someone direct me to a video of Caylee's birthday (I assume possibly the 2nd birthday)..KC is said to smoosh cake onto Caylee's face. I have looked everywhere for the video and can't find it.

 

[Dear Prudence]

None of the above. I do agree that the documentation of how this report came into evidence is confusing.

The DNA parentage report is JG's. Because Caylee's DNA was previously analyzed for the purposes of determining if JG was indeed her father, it was a definitive exemplar of her known DNA. JG offered the report to LE/FBI to use for comparison purposes.

Thank you very much! I could not find it anywhere and it was driving me crazy. Now that you say it I remember Jesse offering it in one of his interviews with LE.

 

[RubyB]

ok.. here is my question.. did JB ever get his secure server set up so he could get the autopsy report??? Seems i remmber them getting that report.. a while back.. if they did.. why in the heck is LKB saying they only got the autopsy on the snake and not one for Caylee.. Gawd im tired of these people. (the defense team)

I don't think that there is an autopsy report for Caylee. An autopsy is, for the most part an examination/testing of organs and tissues in order to determine a cause of death. When the remains are completely skeletonized, as in this case, an autopsy is not going to be possible. A visual inspection of the bones and some toxicology testing is all that can be done. Hence the death certificate stating "homicide by unknown means."

I think it was disingenuous of LKB to make this statement. The defense experts had their own time with Caylee's remains and I'm pretty sure they weren't able to glean much info (from what they had to work with) either! You can't document what you can't examine!

Also FWIW, the secure website was established more so for purposes of sharing the extremely sensitive photographic evidence from the remains site.

 

[debs]

Can someone direct me to a video of Caylee's birthday (I assume possibly the 2nd birthday)..KC is said to smoosh cake onto Caylee's face. I have looked everywhere for the video and can't find it.

Momtective has 'em on her myspace page. But as I recall, Cindy smooshes cake being held by Caylee onto Casey's face, who then takes Caylee's hand and smoosh it onto Caylee's face, and then walks over to Cindy and attempts to smoosh it into her face. It was all very smooshy. Here's the video.

smooshes

 

[mitzi]

Thanks. I was thinking more along the lines of when LE worked the recovery scene during Dec. 11-20, if this bag ever resurfaced. I thought we had seen these items photographed somewhere.

Oooops! Sorry Ms. Link! I don't think we ever heard any more about LE recovering this bag...but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they did, and may be keeping quiet about it.

 

[affinity]

Momtective has 'em on her myspace page. But as I recall, Cindy smooshes cake being held by Caylee onto Casey's face, who then takes Caylee's hand and smoosh it onto Caylee's face, and then walks over to Cindy and attempts to smoosh it into her face. It was all very smooshy. Here's the video.

smooshes

thank you so much! Now, next question ...is THIS the party that she stole to provide for? If I remember..KC stole money from someone (grandmother?) to buy the cake and a few other things in the area of 50.00? is this (in the video) that same event?

 

[Patty G]

ok.. here is my question.. did JB ever get his secure server set up so he could get the autopsy report??? Seems i remmber them getting that report.. a while back.. if they did.. why in the heck is LKB saying they only got the autopsy on the snake and not one for Caylee.. Gawd im tired of these people. (the defense team)

I haven't read anything about JB's office having the secure server for the pictures of Caylee's autopsy. Based on what LKB said on the Today Show it almost sounds like this hasn't been done yet.

 

[Patty G]

thank you so much! Now, next question ...is THIS the party that she stole to provide for? If I remember..KC stole money from someone (grandmother?) to buy the cake and a few other things in the area of 50.00? is this (in the video) that same event?

I believe this is the same birthday party that the money was stolen from Casey grandmother to buy things for Caylee's second birthday party.

 

[debs]

thank you so much! Now, next question ...is THIS the party that she stole to provide for? If I remember..KC stole money from someone (grandmother?) to buy the cake and a few other things in the area of 50.00? is this (in the video) that same event?

yeah. It was for Caylee's second birthday. I thought she stole from Cindy though (I also think it was in Lee's depo where we heard about that???). Someone will be along shortly with a better memory on this

 

[nephers]

yeah. It was for Caylee's second birthday. I thought she stole from Cindy though (I also think it was in Lee's depo where we heard about that???). Someone will be along shortly with a better memory on this

She stole from Shirley P (Cindy's mother). Her interview was in, I believe the April doc dump.

 

[debs]

She stole from Shirley P (Cindy's mother). Her interview was in, I believe the April doc dump.

See what I mean?