Luka Magotta AKA Eric Newman Trial, Week beginning Oct 27, 2014 - Trial Thread #3

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
Break over. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 52s52 seconds ago
#Magnotta had bought a little dog.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 56s57 seconds ago
#Magnotta said it was logical to leave for France because wanted to escape the government.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 47s48 seconds ago
In plane to Paris, #Magnotta feeling anxious, being followed by government.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 31s32 seconds ago
#Magnotta contacted JC Robert, man who hosted him in Paris.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s44 seconds ago
#Magnotta rented hotel room in name of Kirk Trammell.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 43s43 seconds ago
#Magnotta on video, why masturbated with arm. He couldn't answer, got anxious, witness says.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 46s47 seconds ago
#Magnotta told witness he was ashamed of what he did, devastated, felt sad for victim and family.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 59s60 seconds ago
Witness says #Magnotta was visibly sad. He wanted to write the family but he was advised against it.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Was #Magnotta sincere? Crown objects, a little leading. Upheld, ask another way.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Yes #Magnotta appeared sincere, witness says when he was talking about his pain for the family, his shame.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 47s48 seconds ago
Witness says during sexual act on body of #JunLin, #Magnotta heard voice "F#@k it" but he wasn't able to have erection.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
"I don't enjoy having sex with dead body." Witness had asked #Magnotta about sexual act with body of #JunLin.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 29s29 seconds ago
Witness says #Magnotta took the head to Angrignon Park, near where he used to live. Wanted to do some kind of religious ceremony.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Witness says #Magnotta was interrupted by people who were walking about the area.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 42s43 seconds ago
#Magnotta put hands in the fridge because he thought there were germs on them.

suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 27s 27 seconds ago
Sent a hand and foot to Vancouver because #Magnotta had spoken to Lin about the city, that there were a lot of Asians there

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
#Magnotta heard voices again: "Give it back." So he bought postal mailing boxes and mailed body parts.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Mailed to Liberal Party and Conservative Parties and Vancouver schools. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 52s52 seconds ago
#Magnotta said he was feeling restless, lots of adrenaline, hard to think because it was like a nightmare

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 41s41 seconds ago
Witness says #Magnotta acts correspond to his research on Harper and wife.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 31s32 seconds ago
In package to Liberals, "Need to speak to Laureen Tesky," link to Harper's wife. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Parcel to False Creek Elementary, found it on Internet, Had Roses are Red note: line from horror film he saw as teen. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
Poem #Magnotta included in package sent to Vancouver came from a film Valentine (film critics will correct if I am wrong)

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Names of Karla Homolka's sister and Jean Chretien's son on packages: "names were popping in his head." #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Killed his dog: "weird energy" that made him drown dog.Was going to bring dog to France but he was leaving quicker than planned. #Magnotta

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Feb 28, 2014: next meeting with #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta said he knew there were cameras in hallway of apt building but wasn't concerned about it.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
#Magnotta told Allard he knew there were surveillance cameras in apt, pharmacy but didn't bother him

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta doesn't remember sleeping but feeling confused.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 38s38 seconds ago
Witness says #Magnotta told her had habit of changing his appearance because he was feeling he was being followed all the time.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 38s39 seconds ago
Thus the wig when he left for Paris. Also changed look when he worked as escort. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee @sleeCJAD · 3m 3 minutes ago
Witness says #Magnotta was very preoccupied with the way he looked, very important for him.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Witness says #Magnotta told her he wanted to be centre of attention, wanted to be loved, wanted to feel important.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Witness says #Magnotta had fantasies about being famous, being an actor, have money and a good life.

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
After killing, #Magnotta remembers feeling very confused, said he didn't make the video to shock people but to get voices out of his head

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 1m1 minute ago
#Magnotta wanted to scare the government so they would get out of his life

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Witness says #Magnotta was anxious about leaving Paris and going to Berlin, and meeting with man he contacted there.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Witness says #Magnotta stayed with Berlin man until June 4. Man reading newspaper, #Magnotta saw his picture and got nervous.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
That's when #Magnotta went to Internet cafe to read up on this and told witness he had a blackout at this time.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
When police came to arrest him, #Magnotta thought it was government agents.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 41s41 seconds ago
Witness asked about stay at psych hospital at Berlin jail. #Magnotta still heard voices.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Witness says #Magnotta doesn't remember much about that time but he was talking a lot and was in distress.

 

[Kamille]

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Witness says #Magnotta was less anxious during this meeting.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
Witness says during meetings with #Magnotta,often revisited same topics/events.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
Manny sent him message that he wanted to see him, wanted threesome. #Magnotta didn't want to see him.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
#Magnotta then went to get the young Colombian man who refused to go with Manny so he was filmed with #Magnotta for Manny to watch.

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 4m4 minutes ago
Allard's testimony is repetitive, and her meetings with #Magnotta also repetitive. Repeating info made it easier for him to talk about crime

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 4m4 minutes ago
#Magnotta believed Manny contacted the government.

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
#Magnotta said he saw Manny, who wanted a threesome that never happened, for last time in May 2012. Magnotta said he was very scared of him.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
Always fearful Manny was going to blackmail him. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
Heard lots of voices.Went out with wig, didn't want to be recognized. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 3m3 minutes ago
Sometimes scared of clients. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
When left Montreal, still wearing clothes stained with blood. #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Last meeting with #Magnotta: May 9, 2014.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 1m1 minute ago
#Magnotta told her #JunLin was more rough than others he'd been with. But wasn't revenge or act of racism towards #JunLin.

suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 4m 4 minutes ago
#Magnotta thinks he bought the suitcase the day after the killing. Thought the govt would come kill him so decided to go to France

suemontgomery @MontgomerySue · 2m 2 minutes ago
When #Magnotta saw article about himself online in Berlin, it was like he was in another person's body. "Was scared, was kind of sick."

salimah shivji ‏@salimah_shivji · 2m2 minutes ago
Allard: Jun Lin was the unlucky victim of a man in psychosis. #Magnotta didn't kill a student but a man (he thought) was a government spy.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 59s59 seconds ago
Witness says #JunLin was unfortunate victim of psychotic man. #Magnotta

suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue · 2m2 minutes ago
That's it for today. Back tomorrow at 9:30 #Magnotta

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD · 2m2 minutes ago
Adjourned until tomorrow.#Magnotta

amy minsky ‏@amyminsky · 2m2 minutes ago
And we're finished for the day. Allard will continue her testimony tomorrow. The Crown still hasn't cross-examined her. #Magnotta

 

[BorgQueen]

He was SO PARANOID. He was being watched, followed, Jun was a government agent... blah blah blah. But the cameras that actually WERE watching him didn't bother him?

RIGHT. How I wish he could be cross-examined...

 

[Kamille]

I honestly don't know how the Crown is going to handle this cross examination.

IMO, the defense had a better chance just stopping after his medical reports. I find his whole testimony and his stories to be ridiculous and made up, contrived. He is still controlling the show even though he no longer has internet access. Just as he likes it. He's "putting on the crazy" without actually testifying. I think he's overdone it myself.

I guess this is why you don't put a defendant on the stand. The next best thing doesn't appear to be working either.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

He was SO PARANOID. He was being watched, followed, Jun was a government agent... blah blah blah. But the cameras that actually WERE watching him didn't bother him?

RIGHT. How I wish he could be cross-examined...

Your avatar is pretty much how I feel after reading and posting all that today. :floorlaugh:

 

[BorgQueen]

Thanks for posting everything! I feel like banging MY head against a wall, now! :banghead:

 

[Rayemonde]

I think Allard is a secret government agent out to get LM. She's pretending to be helping him but really she wants him to be locked up forever :rolling:

Funny how he didn't put up a fight in the internet cafe isn't it, if he thought the cops were sent by the government! And he didn't fight against being extradited back to Canada, where the evil government wanted to kill him! You'd think he'd try to resist or escape if he thought he was fighting for his life!

 

[Little Jedi]

* Thank You All ~ For the updates*


Still catching-up but........:silenced:

 

[Kamille]

I like how he talked about the filming of mystery man during sex was for Manny's benefit, and that JL had agreed to be filmed during sex. But there was no video found of either involved willingly in a sex act.

So are the whack explanations supposed to also convince the jury that he's just insane and has no idea what he did or what he's saying? If that's the case I don't think there's any help for him so they might as well just lock him up in solitary with Bernardo, Rafferty and Williams. If he's lucky he'll avoid being in a cell next to that feces flinging ex-cop prisoner (sorry can't remember his name).

MOO

 

[Kamille]

If he didn't start talking about the murder until Jan of this year, how did that lawyer know where the head was? Why is that such a well kept secret? There are too many secrets in this trial.

MOO

 

[Kamille]

Little Jedi...



:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

 

[Rayemonde]

This weird energy just took over my body and made me do it . . .

 

[Kamille]

This weird energy just took over my body and made me do it . . .


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Excuse me but do you have the correct medical term for "weird energy"?



(Question number 884 to Dr Allard during cross )

 

[Kamille]

I think Allard is a secret government agent out to get LM. She's pretending to be helping him but really she wants him to be locked up forever :rolling:
Funny how he didn't put up a fight in the internet cafe isn't it, if he thought the cops were sent by the government! And he didn't fight against being extradited back to Canada, where the evil government wanted to kill him! You'd think he'd try to resist or escape if he thought he was fighting for his life!

I think you might be on to something here.... :thinking:

:floorlaugh:

 

[DaveNP]

Well,when the movie does come out.its going to be one of those you will have to watch few times to take it all in.

 

[DaveNP]

Im assuming this Emanual Lopez (Manny),that theres been no attempt to prove he actually exits? Theres an awfull lot of information from Magnotta that as far as I can see is hear say.Has any other members of his family other than his Dad had anything to say?

The kitten killer vids,if he was forced to do them,was he forced to upload the vids too,was he forced to tease people who were trying to trace him for it?

It still seems bit odd to me that they cant identify the 'columbian',was any attempt made?

 

[Little Jedi]

Well I think I've caught-up here now, Just want to say "Thanks" again.
Was so gob-smacked reading the Tweets & posts I've missed hitting the button ~ ( on phone & have to scroll page sidewards for it )

:freakedout: All I can say right now is what a load of B******* !!!!!!

 

[matou]

The "Manny" story is BS to mirror the abuse Karla Homolka received from Bernardo i.e. raccoon eyes, etc. JMO

 

[Rayemonde]

And we haven't even had the cross-examination yet! LM has as good as convicted himself already with his stupid stories and excuses.