LYONS AUDIO TAPES and BS VIDEO GONE? Discussion with R HORNSBY here

[Nosey Parker]

Finally read it. Is this guy for real? RIP? Are you friggin kidding me? What atrocious behavior!! So let me get this right...defense attorneys are allowed to lie in court (uh...I mean twist the truth)...but G-d forbid they lie (uh...mislead) to another attorney? Gimme a break.

Yep - Honour Among Thieves and Honour Among Lawyers, I guess.

 

[BeanE]

If I were him, I'd start praying for a ghost writer to come in and take the rap.

"Somebody highjacked my account!"

("a lot of times our theory of the case isn't a real theory" Andrea Lyon)

 

[marspiter]

Also given that Ms. Lyon's is not a bar certified attorney in Florida could her, say doing things that would be considered morally questionable by Florida bar standards cause her being there by pro hac vice to be removed by the court? Since she is there pro hac vice what jurisdiction or penalties could the Florida bar impose on Ms. Lyon for breaking any Florida bar rules and regualations. Not that she has but if she did.

JB has already been investigated two or three times since this case started. Just tossing that out there.

 

[whiteangora]

I don't know either Mr. Sheaffer or Mr. Hornsby personally, but I do have an opinion about this recent blog war.

As a retired educator with many years of working with many other professionals, one thing I have always done is speak in a respectful manner of my colleagues, regardless of my personal opinion. All of my colleagues share my level of education and deserve my respect due to a sense of professionalism.

What bothers me most is that Mr. Hornsby went after Mr. Sheaffer like a pit-bull. Mr. Sheaffer had his opinions and I would expect a lawyerly disagreement from Hornsby. In his first diatribe against Sheaffer, Hornsby lowered himself to the level of a name-calling bully.

Tattling is another example of immature behavior and Hornsby went as far as to toot his own Twitter-horn.

Kudos to Mr. Sheaffer for maintaining his professional attitude, even when voicing his own opinion in rather strong language.

bbm

The bolded portions of your right on post is very telling as to why Hornsby and Baez get along so well together......birds, feathers and all of that.

 

[RR0004]

Also given that Ms. Lyon's is not a bar certified attorney in Florida could her, say doing things that would be considered morally questionable by Florida bar standards cause her being there by pro hac vice to be removed by the court? Since she is there pro hac vice what jurisdiction or penalties could the Florida bar impose on Ms. Lyon for breaking any Florida bar rules and regualations. Not that she has but if she did.

JB has already been investigated two or three times since this case started. Just tossing that out there.

Anybody a card carrying member of NOW?

 

[elementary]

I think the problem is that lawyers pay big bucks to attend those seminars and buy those tapes. They can now get it for free.

It's also, probably, a it's a copyright thing.

I also think that owners of those tapes sign an agreement to commit to not make them universally available.

If I were the publishers of those tapes, I'd be fit to be tied. If I bought a book-on-tape, and made it universally available, I think there'd be hell to pay.

Blaise

Do you actually believe they would release such a condescending, narcissistic, hate-filled tape????? How inspiring that would be.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Even if this wasn't Hornsby, his comments are on his blog..."RIP William Scheaffer". There is no repair possible after that. He's an attorney ? We must be seeing the "creme of the crop" here, as far as legal counsel goes (sarcastic again). What with Jose first, then Andrea's comments and now this...this is never ending.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Anybody a card carrying member of NOW?

Ready...Set...Go...!!!

http://www.now.org/actionct.html

mail link:
http://www.now.org/comments.html

Contact the NOW Action Center

Address:
National Organization for Women
1100 H Street NW, 3rd floor
Washington, D.C. 20005

Phone: (202) 628-8669 (628-8NOW)

Fax: (202) 785-8576

TTY: (202) 331-9002

 

[sleutherontheside]

Here is another link to an article written by AL for the American Bar Association. Just getting ready to dive in but thought I would share.

http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=andrea_lyon

 

[manatee]

I just can't believe what I am hearing this woman say!! What about the victims? What about Caylee? So you trick jurors into feeling guilty to get monsters a lighter sentence!!! If I were KC Anthony - I would fire this woman before potential jurors catch wind - how disgusting is this?

So she would do and say anything it takes to win! I want to follow her around with her own quotes on a billboard..this makes me sick.

*JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!! -

(disclaimer: I am against the death penalty)
with all due respects...her view is not that these "guilty" people should not be punished...her view is that the death penalty is wrong. She does not believe in an "eye for an eye." She seems to believe that if killing is wrong then it is wrong....why would we become that which abhor?" I was surprised that I finally understood her stand on this case. I thought she believed in KC's innocence. Now I see that is not necessarily the case. She joined this case, IMO, to have a platform with lots of publicity, to express her views.
On a personal note: why don't I believe in the death penalty?...it is not a deterant. It equates us to the perps...someone who commits murders...means that something went wrong in their life, in their development and they acted based on their perception of the world...however warped that may be. I put someone away for life because they are potentially harmful to others..

 

[Searchfortruth]

RH has left the house. Doesn't he like us? :angel:

Maybe tomorrow we'll see another blog entry on his new WS "friends" that he has met here tonight. Wonder who he can call to complain about us ?

 

[Tulessa]

Ready...Set...Go...!!!

http://www.now.org/actionct.html

mail link:
http://www.now.org/comments.html

Contact the NOW Action Center

Address:
National Organization for Women
1100 H Street NW, 3rd floor
Washington, D.C. 20005

Phone: (202) 628-8669 (628-8NOW)

Fax: (202) 785-8576

TTY: (202) 331-9002

Ok for me to do this?

 

[SuziQ]

If I were him, I'd start praying for a ghost writer to come in and take the rap.

He could always borrow Cindy's excuse that someone hacked into her computer.

 

[RR0004]

Here is another link to an article written by AL for the American Bar Association. Just getting ready to dive in but thought I would share.

http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1000&context=andrea_lyon

I especially liked the part as to ascertaining what the family relationship is like.

 

[elementary]

Interesting you make that point. Mr. Sheaffer specifically advertised in the Orlando Magazine (if I remember the magazine correctly) that he only takes on something like 10 cases a year.

So how much do you think he charges charges those 10 clients.... Must be a pretty penny, that is for sure.

Wow. I don't have to take sides in the CA case to see that this is a personal vendetta. Just. Wow. Man, everything you say comes across as a an ad hominem argument. Just. Wow.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Here's what I think:

If the Defense could nonchalantly suggest that Fuhrman is a racist b/c of his use of the "N" word during OJ's trial, maybe it could be done in Florida. This helped to acquit OJ. Now, if this tactic could be used by the Defense in California, I wonder if it could be used by the Prosecution in Florida? If anyone knows this answer, please post the statute or case law.

Link:
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fuhrman[/ame]

Quote
As part of their defense, Simpson's attorneys questioned Fuhrman about his alleged prior use of racist terms. The prosecution tried to stop the defense from pursuing this line of questioning by arguing that it was too inflammatory and could prejudice the predominantly African-American jury against them. The California Evidence Code gives the trial judge the discretion to exclude evidence if its relevance to the case is outweighed by the potential of prejudice to either the prosecution or the defense.[2] Judge Lance Ito initially ruled that there had to be some evidence that Fuhrman planted the glove before the defense could question Fuhrman on prior use of racial slurs, but eventually, Judge Ito changed his prior ruling and allowed the defense to cross-examine Fuhrman on the issue of his alleged racial animosity.
Unquote

 

[sleutherontheside]

And another good one...http://www.andrealyon.com/linked/adlchicagolawyer.pdf

 

[sleutherontheside]

Wow...this thread is growing in popularity. Just look at the users below. May I respectfully (as a poster of no importance whatsoever) remind everyone to be respectful, and observe TOS? I bet this can be a great thread if everyone will "care for and nurture it".

 

[Kentjbkent]

RH has left the house. Doesn't he like us? :angel:

Oh, I doubt he has left our presence. In fact, today was apparently not his first visit here. A quick look at his profile shows that he actually registered at WS in mid August of 2008 (you know, shortly have KC was arrested). He just decided to POST for the first time here. I imagine he has spent many days and hours with us...

I just finished reading this thread and have to say that I am appalled at the behavior of this RH, if he is indeed who he says he is (and not an imposter).

His email exchange with JoseBGood is no longer a questionable matter to me. It is obvious, imho, that these two boys are the only men still stuck on the playground at the local junior high. The behavior displayed by RH over the last 24 hours is not unlike that of a 6th grade girl (no disrepect to 12 year old girls!).

While pointing the finger at BS for what he perceives as the downfall of his (BS) reputation, he better take a look at where his thumb is pointing. While he may feel like the public is :woohoo: at his actions, most adults take a :furious::furious::furious: attitude towards childish antics by a grown man against a peer.

He should be ashamed....but I would guess he instead feels victorious.

 

[rhornsby]

I do find it interesting that on Hornsby's blog he does admit to being a legal analyst for WFTV until they squired Shaeffer. Then his services were no longer required or asked for.

Could be that Mr. Hornsby has a personal axe to grind here.

What is most interesting about your thoughts are not that they are true - but the questions they raise in the people who hear them.

These types of questions are necessary to ferret out my true credibility. If I can ultimately withstand your attacks and still come out credible - then I have survived.

And my point of that analogy is to show your question of me is exactly what Mr. Baez's job is of Mr. Kronk. They need to cross-examine and explore every questionable motive, financial incentive, or bias he has in front of the jury.

If Mr. Kronk satisfactorily answers those questions, Mr. Baez has raised no doubts in a jurors mind - but, if Mr. Kronk does not answer those questions convincingly; well the jury may be left with questions about his veracity and credibility.

But keep it up, hopefully I can prove that while I am guilty of being a jerk, I am nonetheless an honest jerk.