Lauranyc83
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Ahhh finally.
Not that far up the path at all.
I took a ride up Brook Station Rd. last week. Now that the foliage is mostly gone, I wanted to see how far in the path I could see. There was blue ribbon that marked the crime scene still hanging on some bushes. I know there were questions about how far back in the woods she was found, and unless there is more blue ribbon further back that I couldn't see, it was only about 100 ft from the road, maybe even a little less.
Another thing that I noticed, is that the path is separate from the Conner Lane extension that was discussed. They both exit at the same place on Brook Station Rd, however, the path where VM was found is 90 degrees to the road. Conner Lane goes off between 2 stone walls at about roughly 300 degrees (about 10 oclock) if you were standing at the road facing the path. I remember MSM saying there was an opening where someone had excavated where she was found. Maybe that path was a driveway for a house that was going to be built?
One other thing that I noticed, is to the right of the path,(south) behind the guardrail, is a gully that is about 15 feet deep, meaning the path is built up to make it level with the road. I'm not saying this happened, but if someone was in wait, they could have hid in that gully without being seen, then ambushed her. That gully was hard to see last summer with all the tall grass etc.
I'll post the path again from Google Maps. If you pan out to a top view, you can see not only the gully, but also where Conner Lane exits.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.437...4!1swUDhqHyFMGZYhtDdiYpJDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I think it's just as risky to (a) return to the murder scene, especially if nobody saw the crime anyway (wouldn't you just be grateful that you were out of there with nobody seeing you?) and then (b) park your vehicle out on the road. Of course it can't and shouldn't be ruled out though.
I suppose a lot hinges on where it was parked on BS Road. When they say "on", they likely mean just parked on the side of the road on the grass - in which case, I agree that would be risky (though this killer seems to be very brazen and prone to risky behaviour). However, if it was parked a little way down the cart path but still technically "on" BS Road, maybe the killer thought it wouldn't be obviously visible and thus was confident of committing the crime (and willing to do so, such was his lust) with a decreased (as distinct from a zero) chance of the car being seen.
Why after 3 1/2 months are they just now getting the vehicle description and color out? This doesn't make one iota of sense. Unless the police are using this as a ruse to detract from the actual killer. Maybe sluethers are getting too close to the truth? Or, are they hoping the killer will let his defenses down as he knows he wasn't driving a dark SUV.:cow: I do not see a cover up by the Perp.
Perp left VM nude in the open air in the woods on a pathway, albeit a seldom traveled one. The burning of VM was fury.
If VM is snagged from the road and dragged fighting into the wooded area 100 feet along the pathway, I wanna think Vanessa broke free to run some of that length. He was pizzed when he finally caught up to her. If he stuffed her mouth, maybe with her shirt, she couldn't be heard screaming while he tortured. Torture was the excitement for him. So was the element of fire that psychopaths are fascinated by.
Eager for a COD to be released and anticipate it to be up close and personal strangulation. Not personal in that the Perp held a vendetta against VM. No, not necessarily. It was personally exciting for the Perp to watch her expressions of fear and agony as her body struggled to get free.
The Perp was in control of her life and that was the motive. This person wanted to control VMs life by ending it in death. This type killer kills again. Or else she was targeted and the killer felt the same excitement but no longer must suppress the irresistible desire to kill as it died when VM did.
I don't think that LE knew the description of the car early on, at all.Respectfully, snipped.
I'll second that. Finally something.
Thanks to those who posted links and the update!
As I just said in my recent post, LE seemed to think early on there was a car involved or on the scene at the time in question. If a man in car was involved, this points to a cocky, impulsive, or not that intelligent person. It would very very risky to have a car on scene, given that someone could notice it. (Which might be the case here.)
I wonder if the description of the car is something that they just found out, which wouldn't seem likely? Perhaps, for whatever reason, they suspected early on such a car might be involved and they were fishing for corroboration? Any thoughts?
Let's hope this goes somewhere! At the very least we know they have some info. I continue to believe they have more than they are releasing, but this could just be wishful thinking.
There was only a 2 hour window.If the vehicle was parked near the scene she was found, it brings this back to an original theory that she could have been attacked and then the person went to get supplies , using vehicle to rush back and cover it up. Just an opinion, nothing more.
There was only a 2 hour window.
If he lived that close, why not walk back to the woods, rather than take the chance that someone would remember the SUV being parked on BSR?
Here's another scenario.
If there was a car involved,what if it drove past VM when she first left her Moms, or turned around after it drove by her going the other way, as someone reported? There are 2 guys in the SUV. They get ahead far enough that she is no longer in sight. One gets out and hides, and waits to ambush V.M., or drives up to her from behind, while one jumps out and drags her in the woods. The other drives away and returns later to pick him up. The car is only parked on the side of the road for a short period of time waiting for the guy to come out of the woods.
If this happened, neither could have used their cell phones, to talk to each other, because LE would have the ping .
Could be totally off the mark here, but I am having a hard time believing anyone could be that risky with the car parked for that long in such a remote area away from houses. Most small town cops around here would stop and check it out in a heartbeat, unless it is during hunting season.
I'm with you DeDee. So many scenarios. So few clues