Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #13

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Maddie abductor could have been caught in the act, Netflix doc claims
Very interesting is during this check (at about 9.25pm) MO heard a noise coming from the childrens' bedroom.

That noise might be the shutters...

 

[Chiatos]

This Cristian/Christian did have paedophile material so the alarm bells should had wrung for the police...

How do you know?

 

[tedtink]

This Cristian/Christian did have paedophile material so the alarm bells should had wrung for the police...

Source??

 

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Maddie abductor could have been caught in the act, Netflix doc claims
Very interesting is during this check (at about 9.25pm) MO heard a noise coming from the childrens' bedroom.

So, MO heard a noise, saw too much light, didn't check MM and left.

 

[redplanet]

It has been suggested that maybe during the check by GM at about 9.05pm, an intruder may have been hiding in the child bedroom.
But now add to that ... it was also suggested that maybe during the check by MO at about 9.25pm the intruder may have been hiding in the child bedroom (causing the noise MO heard?).
Maddie abductor could have been caught in the act, Netflix doc claims
IMO both accounts are plausible. Is there any way an intruder could be inside that apartment continuous from before 9.05pm until after 9.25pm? Or was the noise MO heard caused by wind through window?

 

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All this thing has been biased by fantasies. It makes all sense that window was used as entry and leaving point and that guy was dumb lucky. GM just imagined someone inside after the facts but has absolutely nothing to substantiate that. The facts are: MO heard a noise. MO saw too much light. MO didn't check MM. MO left. So CB had freeway to finish work. Shutters had two thumb marks in the middle which you won't find on any other shutters unless you open them from outside.

 

[redplanet]

An interesting insight into how Brit reporters deliberately twisted what a publican told them.
Burgau pub-landlord trashes British press for latest McCann “lunacy” - Portugal Resident

 

[Tekno]

So, MO heard a noise, saw too much light, didn't check MM and left.

If I remember correctly, MO said the sound he heard resembled someone turning over in a bed.

 

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If I remember correctly, MO said the sound he heard resembled someone turning over in a bed.

He did hear a sound. He saw too much light. Shutters aren't silent.

 

[redplanet]

All this thing has been biased by fantasies. It makes all sense that window was used as entry and leaving point and that guy was dumb lucky. GM just imagined someone inside after the facts but has absolutely nothing to substantiate that. The facts are: MO heard a noise. MO saw too much light. MO didn't check MM. MO left. So CB had freeway to finish work. Shutters had two thumb marks in the middle which you won't find on any other shutters unless you open them from outside.

Yes IMO it was entry via window. Possibly exit also not sure. A big question IMO is how long was the intruder in the apartment?

 

[Chiatos]

The detectives should have questioned that Cristian instead of accepting 3rd hand information from his so-called girlfriend.

 

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Yes IMO it was entry via window. Possibly exit also not sure. A big question IMO is how long was the intruder in the apartment?

The simplest and fastest hypothesis is using open window again. I'm sure it took him less than a minute. Just pick up girl and leave. Only question is how both left. Window is low enough to put child under armpits outside but seems safer to have someone outside getting her and putting her in a car parked there (something easy and hidden by a large tree at the time).

 

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You opinion is expect here for days. I can see you lurking. What's going on????????????????????????????

 

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[william tell]

How do you know?

according to SM'S file.

 

[Newthoughts]

Isn't that O'Brien as I wrote?

Oldfield wasn't it. The one that said he saw the twins but not MM. And the light being brighter than expected

Which door did MO go in by. Where would security lights be if the abductor had triggered them and had just left?

 

[Tekno]

Yes IMO it was entry via window. Possibly exit also not sure. A big question IMO is how long was the intruder in the apartment?

Perhaps MO’s check happened just after someone took Madeleine through the window into the car park, therefore some noise or sound he heard.

 

[Tekno]

Oldfield wasn't it. The one that said he saw the twins but not MM. And the light being brighter than expected

Which door did MO go in by. Where would security lights be if the abductor had triggered them and had just left?

He probably entered via the patio doors at the back of the apartment.

 

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Oldfield wasn't it. The one that said he saw the twins but not MM. And the light being brighter than expected

Which door did MO go in by. Where would security lights be if the abductor had triggered them and had just left?

From GM's statement:

"At about 21.30 his friend Matt (member of the group) went to the apartment, where his children were and on his way went to the witness' apartment, entering by means of a glass sliding door that was always unlocked and was located laterally to the building. He entered the bedroom, he observed the twins and he did not even notice whether Madeleine was there".

P.J. POLICE FILES: GERRY MCCANN'S STATEMENT 04 MAY 2007

 

[redplanet]

The simplest and fastest hypothesis is using open window again. I'm sure it took him less than a minute. Just pick up girl and leave. Only question is how both left. Window is low enough to put child under armpits outside but seems safer to have someone outside getting her and putting her in a car parked there (something easy and hidden by a large tree at the time).

Yes I agree it is possible the intruder also exited through the window.