Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #16

[tedtink]

According to the Spiegel video it says that child *advertiser censored* (among them images of children in Portuguese playgrounds) were found on CB's computer in an international child *advertiser censored* action, this was about a year after LE summoned him in the MM case in 2013/14?.
He left the kiosk shortly after and moved into the blue roofed house in Am Fullerkamp, Braunshweieg.

Im only aware of his child *advertiser censored* charges from what LE found in Neuwegersleben, was he ever charged with what the ICPA found in 2014/15?
From 07:00

Yes, interesting what does it actually say there? Something 'about a year later in a Federal Operation on CB's computer'........?
It also mentions his kiosk friends after that too but my German isn't good enough to translate it, sorry.
Can anyone translate from 07.00 to the part at the allotment. Much appreciated thanks in advance!

 

[SuperdadV8]

Yes, interesting what does it actually say there? Something 'about a year later in a Federal Operation on CB's computer'........?
It also mentions his kiosk friends after that too but my German isn't good enough to translate it, sorry.
Can anyone translate from 07.00 to the part at the allotment. Much appreciated thanks in advance!

In a federal investigation that included the whole federal republic of germany one year later, child *advertiser censored* and pictures of children at portugese playgrounds have been found on his computer. His kiosk-friends didn't know about that at the time.

 

[Ausgrlz]

There are some real tossers in this forum.

i see one of the other resident wankers is now going through the insults and 'liking them'.

the one thing all you types have in common is that you regularly are rude to members, and you post like you are the experts and holders of all knowledge. pull your heads out of your own *advertiser censored*.

i.e. twats.

Don’t take it too much to heart Tim, maybe they will go back to occupying themselves with whether CB left 5a via the window or the door and in doing so not notice others exercising their own right to an informed opinion.

I also agree it is a coincidence about the jaguar, this is a pretty small town. Also the police have stated he has a MO which involves mutilation previously which fits in with the Joana crime.

I don’t think he works alone, he always has somewhere to stay and people he knows everywhere. And these people are helpful outside of the realms of what you would expect.

 

[tedtink]

In a federal investigation that included the whole federal republic of germany one year later, child *advertiser censored* and pictures of children at portugese playgrounds have been found on his computer. His kiosk-friends didn't know about that at the time.

Thanks @SuperdadV8.
So when they said "one year later" - which year does that mean?
Is it 1 year after 2013 when they had CB in for questioning?

 

[SuperdadV8]

Thanks @SuperdadV8.
So when they said "one year later" - which year does that mean?
Is it 1 year after 2013 when they had CB in for questioning?

The subpoena was dated for november 2013 and the video says "about" one year later. So it could have been the end of 2014 or even the beginning of 2015 IMO.

 

[tedtink]

The subpoena was dated for november 2013 and the video says "about" one year later. So it could have been the end of 2014 or even the beginning of 2015 IMO.

Thanks so much.
We are not aware of a charge for the discovery, which is a bit annoying! But thanks to @Sharkbite for giving us the little nugget of info.

 

[redplanet]

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Yes, interesting what does it actually say there? Something 'about a year later in a Federal Operation on CB's computer'........?
It also mentions his kiosk friends after that too but my German isn't good enough to translate it, sorry.
Can anyone translate from 07.00 to the part at the allotment. Much appreciated thanks in advance!

Another thing I think I heard in the Spiegel video is something like this?
.... about 2 months later the buried dog was found by chance ....
(the word used is Zufall)

 

[Okapi]

In a federal investigation that included the whole federal republic of germany one year later, child *advertiser censored* and pictures of children at portugese playgrounds have been found on his computer. His kiosk-friends didn't know about that at the time.

I wonder if LE have actively appealed to locals and tourists for photos or memories of any odd encounters in playgrounds...someone loitering or even approaching a child. Perhaps a young adult recalls something suspicious from their childhood holiday. I know there was a general call out about tourist photos in the Algarve particularly related to the vehicles. But this is about suspicious behavior in or nearby playgrounds. Just MOO.

 

[tedtink]

In a federal investigation that included the whole federal republic of germany one year later, child *advertiser censored* and pictures of children at portugese playgrounds have been found on his computer. His kiosk-friends didn't know about that at the time.

So CB also took photo's of children in Portuguese playgrounds. (Non Pornographic)?
That's interesting.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Thanks so much.
We're not aware of a charge for the discovery, which is a bit annoying! But thanks to @Sharkbite for giving us the little nugget of info.

I think he has been charged. He molested a child in 2013 and was sentenced in 2016 for molesting the child AND for possession of child *advertiser censored* at a court in Braunschweig with a total penalty. I assume, that was the case of the discovery about end of 2014/beginning 2015. That timeline fits into a 2016 sentence.

 

[mrjitty]

I also agree it is a coincidence about the jaguar, this is a pretty small town.

RSBM

IIRC Amaral moved back to Lisbon from Faro when he retired from PJ in 2008 - so it seems likely he bought the car there via his new business in 2009

 

[SuperdadV8]

So CB also took photo's of children in Portuguese playgrounds. (Non Pornographic)
That's interesting.

I must admit it's assumption, but i still believe in my "abducted to order gone wrong theory", due to the massive media intervention and publicity. But he just kept her for own reasons maybe.

 

[tedtink]

I think he has been charged. He molested a child in 2013 and was sentenced in 2016 for molesting the child AND for possession of child *advertiser censored* at a court in Braunschweig with a total penalty. I assume, that was the case of the discovery about end of 2014/beginning 2015. That timeline fits into a 2016 sentence.

Thanks so that could be the link then.
It would be interesting to hear more about the Federal Investigation.

 

[Okapi]

So CB also took photo's of children in Portuguese playgrounds. (Non Pornographic)
That's interesting.

It's certainly an opportunity to discover more sightings and witnesses to the behavior and MO of the suspect, isn't it?

 

[SuperdadV8]

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Another thing I think I heard in the Spiegel video is something like this?
.... about 2 months later the buried dog was found by chance ....
(the word used is Zufall)

Yes. "Zufall" oder "zufällig" means random or by coincidence.

 

[Sharkbite]

Thanks so much.
We're not aware of a charge for the discovery, which is a bit annoying! But thanks to @Sharkbite for giving us the little nugget of info.

My pleasure
The translation on the video said 'international', but seems it was just a federal action. Still seems that this was prior to the Neuwegersleben search. According to the 2016 Bild article, the search was not in connection with IG, (or they just don't mention it) but initially for illegal dumping, this in turn turned into a full scale search of the area.

"The police first investigated suspicions of illegal garbage disposal. But then they came across evidence that the user of the property is said to own prohibited child *advertiser censored*"

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände
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[SuperdadV8]

It's certainly an opportunity to discover more sightings and witnesses to the behavior and MO of the suspect, isn't it?

That one is interesting. The sentence in 2016, according to that article, included child abuse in fact with procuring child *advertiser censored*. That means, he was sentenced for both crimes as one criminal action.

That could very likely mean, that he abused the kid to produce or obtain child *advertiser censored*, that has been found on his computer. In turn of that you can assume, that there is graphic evidence of him abusing children existing.

Fall Maddie: Das sind die Vorstrafen des Christian B.

 

[mrjitty]

It's certainly an opportunity to discover more sightings and witnesses to the behavior and MO of the suspect, isn't it?

I suspect they have a good chance to get him on some local stuff via this route

 

[redplanet]

In BOD/JW case they were at Tapas Bar when they collected a child from the creche for the second time on the Wednesday. How do you account for JT walking away from the vicinity of his own apartment towards a darker, less accessible route to the creche to pick up a second child on a separate occasion without another adult? Where in Luz had the T's dined to make such a scenario plausible, given the child's lack of outdoor clothing?
If CB was the abductor i.e the person who broke into 5A & unlawfully removed Madeleine, then Tannerman may well have been the accomplice and still of interest to DCI Redwood.

Crossing junction exactly as female JT described is a reasonable route from block 4 to creche. Their block 4 apartment had a kitchen therefore it is not necessary to assume eating out. IMO a reasonable explanation is she saw him walking towards creche, carrying the 2yo, to collect the 3yo. You can find evidence that only one of the two attended evening creche on a different evening tapas reservation sheet. The usual "witness stated direction wrong" analysis omits to even consider that there were 2 kids.

 

[tedtink]

My pleasure
The translation on the video said 'international', but seems it was just a federal action. Still seems that this was prior to the Neuwegersleben search. According to the 2016 Bild article, the search was not in connection with IG, (or they just don't mention it) but initially for illegal dumping, this in turn turned into a full scale search of the area.

"The police first investigated suspicions of illegal garbage disposal. But then they came across evidence that the user of the property is said to own prohibited child *advertiser censored*"

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände
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So it seems during the search for illegal waste, (inc smelly rotting dogs maybe?) child *advertiser censored* was found which then lead LE to look at possible connection to IG and not because they busted the site because of IG suspicion.