Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #18

[Sharkbite]

Good find Pixie.
I was just to say that NF was a "go-go dancer" at the casino or perhaps also something else.
Based on the latest Sexta9;

Not sure if my translation app is failing me

SF asks: And they took pictures? and gets the reply:
I also posed for photos
She called it "photo shoots"

Makes you wonder when and what is coming in the next installment

 

[Dlk79]

I dispute that such a video would not be enough to charge - surely you'd at least arrest / interrogate like Super said

How can you say such a video would be enough to charge without even knowing what it shows or how it came to be discovered? Most of the illegal content found on CB's devices was likely made by other people, doesn't mean they can charge him for doing those acts, only for possession of the videos. If there is a video of MM, but it doesn't clearly show him then he could (and probably would) just say he got it from someone else.

 

[MENDEL]

We have a lots of evidence CB killed MM.

 

[MENDEL]

Herr Wolters to Mirror, June 14, 2020:

"At the moment if we interview the suspect he could say, ‘My girlfriend had my phone that night and I didn’t have it’."

"The person he spoke to could put the phone in his hand [by confirming that it was definitely Brückner to whom he spoke], which would mean he was in the area at the time."

"This is the evidence we want before we issue an arrest warrant and then interview him for the murder. It would help the case against him — but we would also need more evidence."​

The 30-minute phone call police hope will finally solve Madeleine McCann mystery

Sandra Felgueiras asked Herr Wolters on last "Sexta às 9" if he was aware NF might have CB's mobile that evening but all he told was that NF is not a suspect. @23:30

 

[Sharkbite]

About NF
Madeleine Mccann. Suspeita do envolvimento de uma mulher

What is the location of this building seen at the very end of the clip, I have also seen it in a previous Sexta video?

 

[MENDEL]

What is the location of this building seen at the very end of the clip, I have also seen it in a previous Sexta video?
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Rua de D. Eugénia N. D. Ferreira, 44, 1.º, São Bartolomeu de Messines

Pesquisa - DRE

 

[mrjitty]

How can you say such a video would be enough to charge without even knowing what it shows or how it came to be discovered? Most of the illegal content found on CB's devices was likely made by other people, doesn't mean they can charge him for doing those acts, only for possession of the videos. If there is a video of MM, but it doesn't clearly show him then he could (and probably would) just say he got it from someone else.

I agree he could and would say that.

But the child has not been seen for 13 years. Him having that video, along with other circumstantial evidence revealed so far is more than enough to arrest and interrogate, and likely to charge. So as I said, and Super also noted, whey would you not at least arrest and interrogate?

I mean, if such a video exists, they have had it for years now.

At the end of the day, what I find odd is to put this all out in the media, if you are sitting on such big evidence. Normally we never find out all this stuff until someone is charged.

 

[MENDEL]

What is the location of this building seen at the very end of the clip, I have also seen it in a previous Sexta video?
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ETA:

Sorry, Shark, correct address of building is here (above address is head-office it seems):

Caminho Municipal Cumeada de Cortes 421
8375 Silves - São Bartolomeu de Messines

I.A.P.R.S. Instituto Algarve Projecto Para A Reabilitação Social - ASSISTÊNCIA SOCIAL, PLANEAMENTO FAMILIAR (CENTROS, INFORMAÇÃO), PLANEAMENTO FAMILIAR, Silves - I A P R S Instituto Algarve Projecto Para A Reabilitacao Social a Silves - - PT100277796 - Infobel local.PT

خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

 

[mrjitty]

So what exactly is the benefit of charging earlier rather than later? On a major murder investigation with the suspect safely behind bars I'd want to know they were dotting every i and crossing every single t before charging. I can't understand the problem with letting them so their job thoroughly.

But when LE go that route, they don't also hold media briefings week after week where they announce the suspect is 100% guilty, despite lacking evidence to charge.

If the evidence is video based then there may we'll be other things to investigate. Like who may have paid to watch it.

Or we are having our chain yanked, which is rather my suspicion

 

[Newthoughts]

But when LE go that route, they don't also hold media briefings week after week where they announce the suspect is 100% guilty, despite lacking evidence to charge.



Or we are having our chain yanked, which is rather my suspicion

I suspect the media briefings are as much an artefact of the media frenzy surrounding the case as anything else. I suspect he does them because he's asked. He doesn't say anything new really - he doesn't give much away. I don't recall him clearly stating 100% guilty. It's far more nuanced than that. Interest in the case is high, requests to hear him say the same thing is high.

As far as I can see most new stuff comes from new ordinary bystanders claiming knowledge of CB.

The only other WS case I looked at people were equally desperate for LE to charge and kept seeing lack of charge as lack of evidence. But the guy was eventually charged and, if it hasn't been for covid-19, he'd have been in court last July.

So I can't understand the issues.

 

[Chiatos]

I dispute that such a video would not be enough to charge - surely you'd at least arrest / interrogate like Super said

Unless the suspect can't be identified in the film.
For instance:
- not visible in the film
- or visible, but in disguise (e.g wearing a mask)

 

[MENDEL]

I suspect the media briefings are as much an artefact of the media frenzy surrounding the case as anything else. I suspect he does them because he's asked. He doesn't say anything new really - he doesn't give much away. I don't recall him clearly stating 100% guilty. It's far more nuanced than that. Interest in the case is high, requests to hear him say the same thing is high.

As far as I can see most new stuff comes from new ordinary bystanders claiming knowledge of CB.

The only other WS case I looked at people were equally desperate for LE to charge and kept seeing lack of charge as lack of evidence. But the guy was eventually charged and, if it hasn't been for covid-19, he'd have been in court last July.

So I can't understand the issues.

Herr Wolters doesn't answer a question as a rule. Sandra Felgueiras asked him about HB statement re MM and he answers HB and MS are witnesses to DM, she asks if NF could be using his mobile and he answers she's not a suspect, she ask how could CB have killed MM if he has no murder record and he says that's like a puzzle you must join pieces, and so on, and so on.

 

[Dlk79]

I agree he could and would say that.

Then there is little value in inteviewing him at the moment if that was the case.

Him having that video, along with other circumstantial evidence revealed so far is more than enough to arrest and interrogate, and likely to charge. So as I said, and Super also noted, whey would you not at least arrest and interrogate?

What circumstantial evidence have they really revealed to us that directly links him to MM? An apparent confession (could be dismissed as hearsay/lying) and a phone he is known to have used being pinged in the area around the time (could have been someone else using it).

There's a lot that proves he's a bad person but I wouldn't say there's much to directly link him with MM based on what we've been told. And by arresting him they would have to reveal everything else they have on him to FF, handing the defence the advantage of being able to pick their own version of events based on what holes there are in the evidence.

At the end of the day, what I find odd is to put this all out in the media, if you are sitting on such big evidence. Normally we never find out all this stuff until someone is charged.

Well precisely, there is nothing normal about it. They have been investigating this for 3 years though in secret from the media. IMO for them to come out with an appeal and assert guilt at this time means they have absolute confidence of having the right man but still need those missing pieces of evidence to be able to get a conviction. 3 years of police work could not find it so the last throw of the dice is to appeal on a wider scale to the public in the hope it throws up the lead they require for the killer blow.

What I think would be more odd was if they made this appeal without having some huge piece of evidence to be confident that CB was the culprit. Can't see any possible motive for them "yanking our chain" as you seem to think. Why would they do that?

A video is the only thing thing I can think of which would make sense in terms of the evidence they wont reveal (that convinces them of her death and that CB did it). We know they haven't got a body and nothing forensic. There was nobody who saw the crime take place so no first hand witnesses to rely upon. If there was an accomplice who has owned up, I would have thought that would be enough to go to trial so it's unlikley to be that either. I just can't think what else it might be.

 

[Chiatos]

Not sure if my translation app is failing me

SF asks: And they took pictures? and gets the reply:
I also posed for photos
She called it "photo shoots"

Makes you wonder when and what is coming in the next installment

Yes, according to the info NF posed for photo shoots.
(What kind? Perhaps we will get to know next week ...)

 

[MENDEL]

Not sure if my translation app is failing me

SF asks: And they took pictures? and gets the reply:
I also posed for photos
She called it "photo shoots"

Makes you wonder when and what is coming in the next installment

- What did she do in Casino?
- She danced. She was a dancer.
- So she told us.
- And they used to take pics.
- She said she also posed.
- Also posed...
- She also posed for pictures.
- She called it "photo shoots".
- Was it easy for Nicole to get out at night?
- Yes, there was no problem.
- Matthias said no problem. Easy.

 

[Monic]

Does someone overhere know more about Lina?
The girl how stayed in Portugal with NF.
The story is, that CB found her and brought her back to NF.
Lina was pregnant..
Did she give birth?
Because when she did, that child could have very important DNA..

 

[Sharkbite]

- What did she do in Casino?
- She danced. She was a dancer.
- So she told us.
- And they used to take pics.
- She said she also posed.
- Also posed...
- She also posed for pictures.
- She called it "photo shoots".
- Was it easy for Nicole to get out at night?
- Yes, there was no problem.
- Matthias said no problem. Easy.

Good job, better than the app I was trying out that made it sound that it was the adopted son that was photographed.

It was reported that NF was leaving CB to look after the kids while she was out 'working' and I wondered what job she was doing. Just hope it wasn't at the same times as his dodgy mates visits to the house.

 

[MENDEL]

Does someone overhere know more about Lina?
The girl how stayed in Portugal with NF.
The story is, that CB found her and brought her back to NF.
Lina was pregnant..
Did she give birth?
Because when she did, that child could have very important DNA..

I think I read somewhere she did, Monic.

 

[MENDEL]

Good job, better than the app I was trying out that made it sound that it was the adopted son that was photographed.

It was reported that NF was leaving CB to look after the kids while she was out 'working' and I wondered what job she was doing. Just hope it wasn't at the same times as his dodgy mates visits to the house.

Thanks, Shark. I tried my best. Where does that info come from that she left her kids with CB?

 

[Chiatos]

Does someone overhere know more about Lina?
The girl how stayed in Portugal with NF.
The story is, that CB found her and brought her back to NF.
Lina was pregnant..
Did she give birth?
Because when she did, that child could have very important DNA..

If you use the search function on the upper right corner, you'll find out what we have discussed about Lina in the past.
(Not that I don't want to help you right now, but this is the best option at the moment. )