Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #18

[mrjitty]

That has nothing to do with the point you were making. You were talking about the benefits of interviewing early to trip the suspect up on their own story. They already have that story, so what difference would a video that doesn't show CB in it make to that alibi?
"HCW: Excuse me Herr Brueckner, did you make this video?
CB: No.
HCW: Oh well, worth a try. Here's all the other evidence we've got on you. Pick your own version of events based on where our holes are."

They force him to explain where he got it from. That's the point. Get the suspect on the record, with things you might be able to disprove for trial.

How does he? He would know there's a video, sure. He doesn't necessarily know they have it.

The hypothetical is the video is amongst those recovered at the factory. If it exists, then he knows they have it.

Plus we're just talking about the big evidence here that proves MM's death. HCW has said there are lots of pieces to the puzzle that point to CB. He would have to hand over all that evidence too if they were to quesion him.

I am not so sure about that. In the UK and NZ, they can question him only about the video. So long as they don't charge they would not have to disclose the rest of the case.

I really don't see the benefit of showing their hand while he's not got a chance to run anywhere. Just keep building the evidence for now. Your argument really doesn't make much sense IMO. Tell me what they stand to gain as opposed to waiting for more evidence first?

The only reason normally to keep evidence secret, is to prevent the accused from perverting the course of justice by destroying evidence etc. In this case it is hard to imagine what advantage the defence could gain.

 

[Chiatos]

That may well be it DLK, thank you.

I'm not sure about the first sentence though, I think they must mean a pal from Germany as its only within the last week that any reports of CB/NF being together in Germany came out.

I think they mean Matthias with "pal". While he was in Germany CB looked after the kids whenever NF went off to work.

 

[MENDEL]

Yesterday I was looking into if there could be any possible connections with CB and Helmstedt, not just the accident, and read this over at our German friends.

However, an insurance report from an accident that emerged later showed that Christian B. had a bump in the parking lot with the minibus of a friend at the time on Autobahn 2 near Helmstedt on May 1st - one day before Inga disappeared.

https://www.n-tv.de/panorama/Haengen-Faelle-Maddie-und-Inga-z together-article21826687.html

According to this source, the parking lot bump happened at Helmstedt with the participation of a friend's car that B. drove at the time, and it was this car that was insured.

Thanks for the link, Shark. Unfortunately it doesn't offer many details, but gives enough. He had a bump with a friend's minibus. Great info. It would be the greatest coincidence of all if he had a random bump with a friend's vehicle in Germany. So I guess they were traveling together. Exact location isn't given. If that's Tank- und Rastanlage Marienborn as I admit, then he was on direction Braunschweig-Neuwegersleben, but off route.

There's new information there about Neuwegersleben where neighbors tell he left on May 6, 2015 (not to come back living there again?). I already added that to his timeline as permanent.

ETA:

Maybe I misinterpreted that and the minibus was the vehicle CB was driving and was his friend's (BTW, whose friend, AB?). Is there info on responsibilities? It's always a big problem having bumps, more so when one is guilty, and more so with a friend's car.

 

[MENDEL]

Still looking for the article about CB sometimes being left to look after the kids while NF was working, but I found a statement that I have read before from around the same time, from a neighbor to NF about the "strange people" with a detail about the "small girls" that I missed before.

The neighbor said that as well as troubled teenagers, the home was frequented by children. 'There were always little girls – small girls at the property,' she said.

'There were a lot of strange people,' she said.

'This Christian arrived in 2007. They would hang around together and I didn't like the way they were.

'There was talk that he got a girl at the house pregnant and she ran away… It makes us think that what they were doing [with the children] was not good.'

Christian Brueckner 'terrorised residents of Portuguese village by regularly carrying a gun' | Daily Mail Online

It was my impression that NF was paid to look after troubled teens, and not "little girls"

"Strange people"? MS HB MT? they would fit the description very well.

As far as I know she was paid by Germany for Lina only in 2007. Did she do some babysitting at home? The pregnant girl who ran away (only later pregnant, it seems) is Lina.

When women hired NF she told them she had special training on troubled children.

All this is on a "Sexta às 9" episode.

 

[MENDEL]

Did FF review original files? Sounds like he was able to go to directly to a sighting photo/video that proves she was alive.

I think that's unlikely, Pixie. He said he had an anonymous source in Portugal. But there might be pictures there IMO.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Thanks for the link, Shark. Unfortunately it doesn't offer many details, but gives enough. He had a bump with a friend's minibus. Great info. It would be the greatest coincidence of all if he had a random bump with a friend's vehicle in Germany. So I guess they were traveling together. Exact location isn't given. If that's Tank- und Rastanlage Marienborn as I admit, then he was on direction Braunschweig-Neuwegersleben, but off route.

There's new information there about Neuwegersleben where neighbors tell he left on May 6, 2015 (not to come back living there again?). I already added that to his timeline as permanent.

Rasthof Lappwald. But same Autobahn between Braunschweig and Neuwegersleben. And it's a blue Mercedes Vito.

12:18

 

[MENDEL]

Rasthof Lappwald. But same Autobahn between Braunschweig and Neuwegersleben.

12:18

Then he's in direction Neuwegersleben-Braunschweig, but off route as he should contour Helmstedt at least currently. Were there any woks at the time that made him follow a different route or was route different from now? Anyway, he's traveling away from Magdeburg on that location. Any info on Mercedes Vito's owner (just for the curiosity)? It's possible he might have to travel off route after the bump for some urgent repair, but his logical destination would be Helmstedt.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Then he's in direction Neuwegersleben-Braunschweig, but off route as he should contour Helmstedt at least currently. Were there any woks at the time that made him follow a different route or was route different from now? Anyway, he's traveling away from Magdeburg on that location. Any info on Mercedes Vito's owner (just for the curiosity)?

Wouldn't say that for sure. Leaving Autobahn A2 at Lappwald is the shortest way to Neuwegersleben. And there is already an exit to a parking lot for trucks in direction to Magdeburg, my actual hometown by the way!

Maybe having a pee, maybe visiting the resting place for food, coffee, alcohol or even fueling up the vito and than straight down to the box factory.

 

[MENDEL]

Wouldn't say that for sure. Leaving Autobahn A2 at Lappwald is the shortest way to Neuwegersleben. And there is already an exit to a parking lot for trucks in direction to Magdeburg, my actual hometown by the way!

Maybe having a pee, maybe visiting the resting place for food, coffee, alcohol or even fueling up the vito and than straight down to the box factory.

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What I mean is he's heading Braunschweig coming from Neuwegersleben.

 

[SuperdadV8]

What I mean is he's heading Braunschweig coming from Neuwegersleben.

From where do you take that for certain?

 

[MENDEL]

See map with direction Neuwegensleben-Braunschweig I added, Super. He would enter A2 after Helmstedt. Even if he stopped in Hemstedt for peeing he would enter A2 after that services.

 

[Lilly b]

I posted some details in reply to Mendel a few posts up.

Thanks, yes I did see, so was it the blue van??

 

[MENDEL]

Thanks, yes I did see, so was it the blue van??

What do you mean blue van?

 

[SuperdadV8]

See map with direction Neuwegensleben-Braunschweig I added, Super. He would enter A2 after Helmstedt.

On that route, he wouldn't be in the need to frequent Lappwald IMO, because it passes Helmstedt not on a Autobahn, but a "Landstraße". Something brought him on Autobahn A2 to Lappwald.

If it was one day before the IG disappearence, frequenting Lappwald Nord on Autobahn A2 would make more sense by travelling from or to further locations, as maybe Wilhelmshof to check a location?!

 

[MENDEL]

Super, please give some more details so that I can find locations and understand your thoughts. On that services he's like heading Braunschweig from Magdeburg, correct? Not a spot he would normally travel from Neuwegensleben to Braunschweig.

Why should he head Raststtäte services?

 

[SuperdadV8]

Super, please give some more details so that I can find locations and understand your thoughts. On that services he's like heading Braunschweig from Magdeburg, correct? Not a spot he would normally travel from Neuwegensleben to Braunschweig.

I see some possibilities.

Braunschweig - Neuwegersleben or otherwise would make less sense to drive to Raststätte Lappwald, because it isn't the shortest way and many more gas stations, that are run by these Raststätten are closer on route.

Braunschweig - Stendal (Wilhelmshof) or otherwise makes more sense to me, because Raststätte Lappwald is closer on route and Autobahn A2!

Raststätte = Gasoline, Toilet, Food, Beverages, meeting accomplices etc..

 

[MENDEL]

I've not found any, would be interesting to know what vehicle he was driving

Every detail would be interesting, Lilly.

 

[MENDEL]

I see some possibilities.

Braunschweig - Neuwegersleben or otherwise would make less sense to drive to Raststätte Lappwald, because it isn't the shortest way and many more gas stations, that are run by these Raststätten are closer on route.

Braunschweig - Stendal (Wilhelmshof) or otherwise makes more sense to me, because Raststätte Lappwald is closer on route and Autobahn A2!

Raststätte = Gasoline, Toilet, Food, Beverages, meeting accomplices etc..

But he's on the wrong way. He would be heading Braunschweig from Stendal-Silhemshof and not the opposite.

What do you mean blue van?

 

[SuperdadV8]

Another odd thing, according to Neuwegersleben.

Burying my beloved dog in a blanket, plausible!

Burying a dog in blanket with evidence of childporn, getting rid of evidence and mixing up two cadaver smells on a possible piece of evidence?

 

[MENDEL]

BTW Inga was lost in the middle of nowhere. How could a guy like like CB guess a child like her would be there? Just a thought.