Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #35

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Lyall0814 said:
I get that C but strictly speaking he ought not to have declared he knew for certain what happened if he can't prove it BARD. The way he spoke is not how it's usually done is it. I don't blame anyone for being confused, or even suspicious.
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I really don't know how it's usually done. This is quite an irregular case and the public appeal also shows the complexity of it. We had tried to find in the past similar public appeals for information in Germany but these were usually for fugitives! To go forward with the public appeal and not having being sued by CB's lawyers for the comments made by BKA and its spokesperson means something. What this something is I don't know... jmo
 
UK Girl said:
You speak as if the Uk hasnt wanted to spend money on this case which is far from being correct.
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As a whole, I think you are probably correct. The majority have good will and would like to see MM's case resolved. They probably have never even heard of the campaigners who lobby parliament - set up petitions - direct Freedom of Information requests ad nauseam etc. all negatively directed at the MM case.
You've probably never heard of them either, but believe me they do lobby against and they do exist.
 
Lyall0814 said:
Give over, as Mr Jitty says if the government wasn't funding OG it would have had to compete - since day 1 of its existence - with all the other work the Met has to do. As we all know sadly there are a great many other unsolved cases also, and they can't spend as much as they would wish to on all of them. Unless we all agree to pay more tax (not a bad idea imo but that's rarely - very rarely - a successful policy politically)
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It is not the fact that there is Government funding which is at issue here. It is the fact it had to be fought for so long and so hard and could be cut off in an instant. Which actually is right and proper should incoming information run out. But it never has. Proving that funding for MM's case should never have been an issue. The evidence has been proven to always exist and MM's case should never have been shelved in 2008 allowing it to become a cold case.
 
Mex said:
As a whole, I think you are probably correct. The majority have good will and would like to see MM's case resolved. They probably have never even heard of the campaigners who lobby parliament - set up petitions - direct Freedom of Information requests ad nauseam etc. all negatively directed at the MM case.
You've probably never heard of them either, but believe me they do lobby against and they do exist.
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Being honest I have seen that whenever the updates have been released about more funding being given most comments are pretty angry about it on news articles.
 
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IMO they have the truth & the evidence against CB to take this to teal
Janosch said:
Imagine you are in the HCW/BKA team ... What do you try to investigate now to reach the truth in MM's case?
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Janosch said:
Imagine you are in the HCW/BKA team ... What do you try to investigate now to reach the truth in MM's
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Janosch said:
Imagine you are in the HCW/BKA team ... What do you try to investigate now to reach the truth in MM's case?
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IMO it’s very clear that they have the truth - they know CB is responsible & have confirmed they have material evidence against him.

I think there’s the truth & all the answers. IMO they have enough to charge, they have the truth but they still have a lot of information & don’t have all the answers. They don’t need to rush because CB isn’t going anywhere & they have to get through the 5 prosecutions first.

If they keep pressing on the areas he spent time in they might get a forensic result - but IMO very unlikely they’ll hit on the exact spot.

CB has a habit of taking alot of pictures & running his mouth. IMO his words -said, written & online, as well as the photos he’s taken will be his downfall.
 
frank-cole said:
IMO they have the truth & the evidence against CB to take this to teal

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IMO it’s very clear that they have the truth - they know CB is responsible & have confirmed they have material evidence against him.

I think there’s the truth & all the answers. IMO they have enough to charge, they have the truth but they still have a lot of information & don’t have all the answers. They don’t need to rush because CB isn’t going anywhere & they have to get through the 5 prosecutions first.

If they keep pressing on the areas he spent time in they might get a forensic result - but IMO very unlikely they’ll hit on the exact spot.

CB has a habit of taking alot of pictures & running his mouth. IMO his words -said, written & online, as well as the photos he’s taken will be his downfall.
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Bolded bit, but do they, one of questions reportedly posed to the three arguidos in 2014 was did you kill Madeleine, does one suppose this was just a random question thrown out there or did OG have reason to use this line of questioning, now move it on to the here and now how is it certain the BKA have the one if OG didnt.
 
frank-cole said:
IMO they have the truth & the evidence against CB to take this to teal

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IMO it’s very clear that they have the truth - they know CB is responsible & have confirmed they have material evidence against him.

I think there’s the truth & all the answers. IMO they have enough to charge, they have the truth but they still have a lot of information & don’t have all the answers. They don’t need to rush because CB isn’t going anywhere & they have to get through the 5 prosecutions first.

If they keep pressing on the areas he spent time in they might get a forensic result - but IMO very unlikely they’ll hit on the exact spot.

CB has a habit of taking alot of pictures & running his mouth. IMO his words -said, written & online, as well as the photos he’s taken will be his downfall.
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Again and again, my feelings too, that would never be written as well as above.
And the last sentence...all there! Imagine now if he did not have those habits...
 
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frank-cole said:
IMO they have the truth & the evidence against CB to take this to teal

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IMO it’s very clear that they have the truth - they know CB is responsible & have confirmed they have material evidence against him.

I think there’s the truth & all the answers. IMO they have enough to charge, they have the truth but they still have a lot of information & don’t have all the answers. They don’t need to rush because CB isn’t going anywhere & they have to get through the 5 prosecutions first.

If they keep pressing on the areas he spent time in they might get a forensic result - but IMO very unlikely they’ll hit on the exact spot.

CB has a habit of taking alot of pictures & running his mouth. IMO his words -said, written & online, as well as the photos he’s taken will be his downfall.
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I don't think anyone knows what the truth is, except whoever took MM.
The police/prosecutors have their version of what they believe is the truth, others have their own version.

I do wonder if we'll ever get the real story, whatever the outcome of a trial.
 
Davieson said:
I don't think anyone knows what the truth is, except whoever took MM.
The police/prosecutors have their version of what they believe is the truth, others have their own version.

I do wonder if we'll ever get the real story, whatever the outcome of a trial.
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Who are the 'others'?
 
Okapi said:
BBM

Quite an intriguing phrase. Why ‘previously’? Obviously it could mean simply that they had it on the to-do list for a while for whatever reason. ‘Previously precisely defined’ makes me wonder about a word of mouth tip (perhaps historic) as much as photos. Photos lack the context of a verbal description, which can be precisely defined. Just musing.
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Is that the original press release or an English translation of a German one? I only ask because if an English version of the German one, there's always that little bit of room for translation ambiguities. 'Previously' could just mean 'before' as in the area was precisely defined before they embarked on their search.

But if the original, it does sound a bit like maybe it was an area previously earmarked for further investigation and the escalation of the search was the result of new info from somewhere/someone. As you say.
 
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I wonder what generally led them to CB. Is it the box factory? It seems so to me corroborated by tip-offs from various informants which had also led them to question him in 2012/2013
 
Anxala said:
Is that the original press release or an English translation of a German one? I only ask because if an English version of the German one, there's always that little bit of room for translation ambiguities.

But if the original, it does sound a bit like maybe it was an area previously earmarked for further investigation and the escalation of the search was the result of new info. From someone. As you say.
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The original is in German only. I haven't seen an officially translated press release

"Ein zuvor genau festgelegtes Gebiet entlang des Stausees wurde vollständig nach möglichen Beweisstücken abgesucht."

Previously could just mean they had a tip off and photos CB had taken there, so they knew where to search. It could just mean they didn't need to go there and search on the spot for the area.

Jmo
 
Davieson said:
I don't think anyone knows what the truth is, except whoever took MM.
The police/prosecutors have their version of what they believe is the truth, others have their own version.

I do wonder if we'll ever get the real story, whatever the outcome of a trial.
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Agree & disagree (if that makes sense). I agree that the person responsible will be the only person who knows everything that happened.
But I disagree that the BKA don’t know the truth. They’ve uncovered evidence that the man who confessed to the crime comitted the crime.

IMO they know he’s the killer & the BKA have uncovered that’s the truth. But it’s possible that they may never have all the facts. The unsettling & devastating likelihood is that what happened is exactly what he bragged about in his Skype chat. Which is that he abducted, assaulted & killed a female toddler.

IMO they’ll certainly get a conviction but it may well be without any forensic evidence
 
C.greek said:
The original is in German only. I haven't seen an officially translated press release

"Ein zuvor genau festgelegtes Gebiet entlang des Stausees wurde vollständig nach möglichen Beweisstücken abgesucht."

Previously could just mean they had a tip off and photos CB had taken there, so they knew where to search. It could just mean they didn't need to go there and search on the spot for the area.

Jmo
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Right. The precise and defineable area and location of the search has been determined bevor starting that operation.
 
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