If they can charge him they clearly don't want to do it until after the trial(s) on the other charges have finished. Imo that should tell us something. To me it suggests their case against him re: MM is not too strong on its own.
Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #38
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I can only think to keep him away from the media - another successful prosecution strategy!
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But why wait. What will be gained from convictions of unrelated crimes that would be worth waiting for?
It's the incident in the playground presumably, they want to convict him for that first? FF no doubt will say they want to influence the judges, and he might be right? Anyone who says judges can't be influenced is being silly imo
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This crime is so consistent with his history, he has a conviction for a child abuse crime in Germany. Additionally, he was caught in the act by an off duty police witness.On the other hand they could have charged him for the playground incident years ago, so I might be talking rubbish. Ignore me
I just can’t see why this or any of the other crimes in the five charges are relevant to abduction and murder in the MM case.
Because it's so reckless, it's behaviour that's guaranteed to lead to violence sooner or later if it's habitual/compulsive. The conviction in Germany was for a child he knew wasn't it? It was a different type of offence.
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CB already has convictions for crimes against children. I doubt one more is going to have a massive influence on a judge. These are professionals whose sole responsibility is to judge the evidence against defendants put before them fairly and impartially.
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His evidence is key in the MM case.
He’s in witness protection because BKA think he is in some danger. It’s not from CB. It could be any CB accomplice or associate. It could be from one of own associates - no-one likes a grass.
If a witness dies before trial, the Prosecution can apply to have the police statement entered into evidence. A trial Judge would warn the Jury the witness wasn’t there to be cross-examined and observed. So doing on-camera interviews (which can be admitted as evidence) offers some protection to him and his evidence.
Onemoremile has reminded us HCW has said his evidence isn't key in the MM case.
If he's in witness protection how did MWT find him so easily?
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IIRC, when he was young, he molested a nine year old girl in a park.
In 2013, he molested the daughter of his girlfriend and took photos of the abuse.
He has GBH conviction for an assault against a different girlfriend, in 2016.
That he has committed violent impulsive acts in the past is confirmed by his record.
I think @mrjitty has said in previous threads that these crimes and facts cannot be used in evidence in the MM case. To be used as evidence, other offences must carry a strong resemblance to the crime in question - perhaps he can clarify.
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I've tried to keep up with this case via the threads here and through the media and information seems to be all over the place. The simplest answer is usually the correct one...and I feel like I need one of those boards with the threaded yarn connecting all of the constantly shifting conspiracy bordering data points.
But the one thing that remains a constant...is law enforcement confidence. Across multiple countries, multiple departments and organizations, LE has projected extreme (not typical) and unusual (in hindsight) confidence as it relates to this case.
I can't help but feel that CB is yet another boy (LE) who cried wolf (confidence) moment.
But the one thing that remains a constant...is law enforcement confidence. Across multiple countries, multiple departments and organizations, LE has projected extreme (not typical) and unusual (in hindsight) confidence as it relates to this case.
I can't help but feel that CB is yet another boy (LE) who cried wolf (confidence) moment.
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As @onemoremile said, so either HCW misled SF in the interview or he (HB) is central to the MM case.
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I didn’t see either the @onemoremile post or that HCW interview but a confession is important evidence in a circumstantial evidence case without body/forensics or personal relationship with victim.
Did MWT make contact with HB? I don’t recall that. I recall him commenting on some videos/pics, possibly off his FB page.
MWT says he made contact with him but HB wouldn't speak publicly. There's no mention of witness protection.
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MWT may have made contact via FB.
I listened to the interview/analysis rather than watching as body language does not interest me
I can speak German so understood some parts slightly differently, but overall thought the analysis was high quality.
One key factor they missed, is that HB is coming up as a key witness not in the MM trial, but in the new rape trials. I think his threats(?) to CB more likely related to that - than the MM case. After all the whole business of the tapes happened when CB was in prison before MM went missing. So surely when he references having really seen the tapes and CB needs to believe that - he must be referring to the upcoming trial?
To me, he seemed mostly upset that this all reflected badly on him and I guess he does not want to testify again.
All in all, very strange stuff.
I can speak German so understood some parts slightly differently, but overall thought the analysis was high quality.
One key factor they missed, is that HB is coming up as a key witness not in the MM trial, but in the new rape trials. I think his threats(?) to CB more likely related to that - than the MM case. After all the whole business of the tapes happened when CB was in prison before MM went missing. So surely when he references having really seen the tapes and CB needs to believe that - he must be referring to the upcoming trial?
To me, he seemed mostly upset that this all reflected badly on him and I guess he does not want to testify again.
All in all, very strange stuff.
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Good point. HeB’s description of the S&M type activity he saw may correspond with HaB’s evidence. He may even have watched the HaB tape. He may be telling CB that he’d be better off confessing.
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I've just posted some pages back that, believing in the portuguese subtitles, HCW told (in german) to SF, in portuguese TV program, Sexta às 9, that HB and MS are not central pieces in BKA investigation on MM. He also said the basic that they were key in DM case.
Unless he is bluffing/lying, IMO the evidence they have on MM could eventually be stronger than only potential autonomous/independent corroboration of testimonies-autobiographic texts/chats.
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