Deceased/Not Found MD - Heather Grogg, 33, & Danielle Tyler, 18, Carroll Co, 6 Apr 2020 *arrest*

[cujenn81]

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My God, the depravity of these people. There were two children present inside that “gutted trailer” when they killed that poor young woman who did nothing wrong but fall for the charms of a dangerous and experienced criminal. I hope April Braner is sentenced just as harshly as the rest of those thugs.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

JR, DT, HG lives lost.
MM, DS, JB, AprilB, JS in prison for decades.
Parents who lost children. Children who lost parents.

For a fight over $40.

 

[Knox]

My God, the depravity of these people. There were two children present inside that “gutted trailer” when they killed that poor young woman who did nothing wrong but fall for the charms of a dangerous and experienced criminal. I hope April Braner is sentenced just as harshly as the rest of those thugs.

Wasn't Emily their Mom present also? Yet charges against her were dismissed!! I'm hoping CPS is involved and taking some sort of action with regard to her children.
Depravity is really an understatement ...

 

[mompalm]

Now there's a new player in this crazy case:

Members of the U.S. Marshals Mountain State Fugitive Task Force and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office arrested Norman Bradford, 49, of Falling Waters, W.Va.

Bradford is suspected of conspiring with others in killing Danielle Tyler and Heather Grogg to cover up an earlier slaying, according to a news release from the task force.

SBM​

Police make seventh arrest in West Virginia homicide probe

 

[Pleeang]

When is this going to end? All this over $40.00

 

[cvaldez1975]

MM is charged with 1st degree murder and kidnapping
DS is charged with 1st degree murder and kidnapping
JB is charged with 1st degree murder, kidnapping, and conspiracy to commit murder.

Why does JB get the extra charge?? Pure speculation on my part, LE has evidence to put MM and DS away but JB was only the driver of the car so the extra charge is because they can't pin the murder on him. If they threaten him with conspiracy he might cooperate to get the charges reduced.

I could be way off. Maybe JB gets the extra charge because he planned it ahead of time?

MOO

JB lured someone

 

[cvaldez1975]

That literally makes me nauseous.

me too because he looks like a baby. And he’s already been to the joint. Everyone needs to do better....

 

[cvaldez1975]

I think its because
He spent 5 years in an adult prison system starting at age 17, and from 17 to 22 all he knew was prison so I'm not shocked he got involved with white supremacy... I wonder if he had those views before prison? I would really like to find more information on his 2016 kiddnapping case, I feel that case could shine light on the type of person MM is. For instance why only 5 years? Was it due to him being a minor when the crime occured? Who is the woman? A random person? Or an ex girlfriend? He took an alford plea, meaning he took the consequence but never officially admitted to guilt in that case..why?

Does abyone have info on MMs past charge?

RSBM. Riddle's body was found on March 18th. Heather and Danielle were last seen April 6: HEATHER GROGG — FBI

I feel like they were reported then. I think someone was texting Sherry.

 

[mompalm]

Here is a little more info about the latest arrest in Harper's Ferry, WV of NB for his alleged involvement in the murders of DT and HG. It is a press release from the U.S. Marshals Office.

Man Invoved in March 18 Homicide Arrested by U.S. Marshals Task Force

JMO

 

[Steph8angels]

JMO

Too many evil players of the 3 murders.
To the motive of 40.00

I am thinking JR was a hit.
Premeditated. With payment of promises of money, drugs, or a move up of power.

DT and HG was to silence as these were not apart of the murderous plan on JR.

JMO the meeting before the murder was to discuss the plans for when they arrived back at JS's apartment. To eliminate JR.

I still am looking for a motive to the murder of JR.

Someone still free who ordered the hit. Too many still unknowns in this case.

I hope DT and HG can be located and brought home to their families.

This last arrest of NB may shed some light. But I doubt any of them talk. They have a creed amongst them.

Also great arrest on NB from the US Marshall's. I hope to see more.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Great work Vail, nicely laid out, makes the connections easy to track down.

April announced she was in a new relationship last year, I'm curious if that person will be linked to any of this?

The latest arrest of NB...was that who you were thinking of? A reverse address search of AprilB's turns up his name. I have no idea if they are or were in a relationship.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

In court, Holz said the other defendant had consensual sex with Grogg while Smith allegedly approached her from behind to shoot and kill her. The detective identified the other defendant as Monroe Merrell...

RSBM

I want to throw up now.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Wasn't Emily their Mom present also? Yet charges against her were dismissed!! I'm hoping CPS is involved and taking some sort of action with regard to her children.
Depravity is really an understatement ...

Emily has no charges yet for the HG/DT killings. Her accessory to murder charges in the JR case were dismissed by the judge who said her crime occurred in Carroll County, MD so any charges should be brought in court there. I find that unbelievable. Carroll County would have undue burden to do a murder investigation that is already investigated and being tried in another state. Also, paraphrasing from wikipedia on legal definition of accessory, BBM:

"All U.S. jurisdictions have effectively eliminated the distinction between accessories before the fact and principals, either by doing away with the category of 'accessory before the fact' entirely or by providing that accessories before the fact are guilty of the same offense as principals"

I hope the Jefferson County prosecutor or a federal prosecutor can get around that judge's decision if jurisdiction was the only reason she dropped the charges.

The Carroll County newspaper says charges were dropped due to "lack of probable cause" while the Spirit of Jefferson news says: " [judge at ERD hearing] ruled that Day could not be held accountable for accessory to Riddle’s murder because his murder occurred in Jefferson County and not in Carroll County, Maryland, where Day’s Westminster apartment is. Any such charges against Day, if any would be filed, would have to be brought in Carroll County, D’Angelo determined...."

ETA: MSM links regarding ERD charges getting dropped
Case dismissed for Westminster woman previously charged in West Virginia murder case

http://www.spiritofjefferson.com/news/article_96455d04-a5a4-11ea-9304- 0b0c7f8b0c6b.html

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Now there's a new player in this crazy case:

Members of the U.S. Marshals Mountain State Fugitive Task Force and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office arrested Norman Bradford, 49, of Falling Waters, W.Va.

Bradford is suspected of conspiring with others in killing Danielle Tyler and Heather Grogg to cover up an earlier slaying, according to a news release from the task force.

SBM​

Police make seventh arrest in West Virginia homicide probe

This does not add up. NB was arrested on a warrant from Jefferson County? Suspected of conspiring to kill DT and HG? DT and HG were murdered in Berkeley County. JR was murdered in Jefferson County. If this is related to DT/HG the charging agency would be Berkeley County.

I wonder if HG was shot in Jefferson County? The Spirit of Jefferson news said MM, JS, and ND left Burnside Drive in a car with HG still alive so we don't yet know where she was killed.

 

[mompalm]

I wonder if HG was shot in Jefferson County? The Spirit of Jefferson news said MM, JS, and ND left Burnside Drive in a car with HG still alive so we don't yet know where she was killed.

Exactly. According to the Spirt of Jefferson article, Holz said in testimony that somewhere along the way on the car ride away from the party trailer, Grogg was killed. He did not say where, though. So I guess it could have been in Jefferson Co.

JMO

 

[cvaldez1975]

I know I’m late and that DT was 18 but she was still a senior. We didn’t let our still in high school kids out and about at 18. But this is different times and no school. Idk

I just don't have a good sense of what happened with these two.

• JR murdered March 18th
• HF & DT last seen April 6th
• DS arrested April 10th
• MM arrested April 15th
• JB arrested April 20th
• ED arrested April 27th

Danielle went through a break-up in March and recently began dating Merrell, Sherry told Oxygen.com. She said that Danielle began hanging out with him and a new group of friends following her break-up — becoming more secretive and spending nights away from the home she shares with Sherry and her siblings. In early April she came over to gather some clothes, and she declined to share details about what she'd been up to recently, Sherry said.

On Apr. 6, Sherry said she received a text from Danielle’s phone which stated that she was tired of drama. The text said she was shutting her phone off. Sherry said that was out of character for Danielle.
Two Woman, A High School Student And A Mother, Both Missing And 'In Danger' As Connection To Murder Suspects Surface

HG & DT disappeared before any arrests were made. None of the others fled, except for MM.

Does it make sense that the two people, who to our knowledge were not actively involved in the murder, would flee? Were they involved?

DT gathering clothing and telling Sherry she was shutting off her phone, could be indicative of leaving. But someone other than her could also have sent that text.

For every plausible argument, there is an equally plausible opposite theory.

 

[mompalm]

I know I’m late and that DT was 18 but she was still a senior. We didn’t let our still in high school kids out and about at 18. But this is different times and no school. Idk

I get what you're saying. Dani was living with her grandmother, and at some point just stopped coming home, although she kept in touch with her grandmother. Once she was 18, she could pretty much stay where she wanted to, even if her grandmother had told her to live at home.

JMO

 

[mompalm]

Man accused of providing gun to kill Carroll County woman is charged with murder in West Virginia

CARROLL COUNTY TIMES |
JUN 10, 2020 | 1:38 PM

A West Virginia man faces a murder charge after police say he provided the firearm that was used to kill a Carroll County woman and helped dispose of her body.

Norman A. Bradford Jr., 49, of Falling Waters, was arrested by members of the U.S. Marshals Mountain State Fugitive Task Force and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office in Harpers Ferry, according to a news release from the U.S. Marshals Service.

He has been charged with first-degree murder in Berkeley County, according to a criminal complaint. Bradford is being held without bond, online jail records show. He was booked at Eastern Regional Jail.

U.S. Marshals Service wrote in a release Bradford is suspected of conspiring with others in the murders of 18-year-old Taneytown resident Danielle Tyler and Westminster resident Heather Grogg, 33, in an effort to cover up the murder of Taneytown resident Jonathan Riddle, also 33. Riddle’s body was found on fire with stab wounds about 40 feet from a road in Rippon, West Virginia, on March 18, according to police.

According to the criminal complaint, Bradford provided the firearm that was used to kill Grogg and helped dispose of her body....


RSBM

BBM

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[CuriousQuiet1]

Man accused of providing gun to kill Carroll County woman is charged with murder in West Virginia

CARROLL COUNTY TIMES |
JUN 10, 2020 | 1:38 PM

A West Virginia man faces a murder charge after police say he provided the firearm that was used to kill a Carroll County woman and helped dispose of her body.

Norman A. Bradford Jr., 49, of Falling Waters, was arrested by members of the U.S. Marshals Mountain State Fugitive Task Force and the Jefferson County Sheriff’s Office in Harpers Ferry, according to a news release from the U.S. Marshals Service.

He has been charged with first-degree murder in Berkeley County, according to a criminal complaint. Bradford is being held without bond, online jail records show. He was booked at Eastern Regional Jail.

U.S. Marshals Service wrote in a release Bradford is suspected of conspiring with others in the murders of 18-year-old Taneytown resident Danielle Tyler and Westminster resident Heather Grogg, 33, in an effort to cover up the murder of Taneytown resident Jonathan Riddle, also 33. Riddle’s body was found on fire with stab wounds about 40 feet from a road in Rippon, West Virginia, on March 18, according to police.

According to the criminal complaint, Bradford provided the firearm that was used to kill Grogg and helped dispose of her body....


RSBM

BBM

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OK, He is charged with murder and/or accessory by Berkeley County. This makes sense. I must have been confused earlier, I thought he was being charged by Jefferson County. Jefferson County helped with the arrest since he resided in Jefferson County.

 

[MimosaMornings]

I get what you're saying. Dani was living with her grandmother, and at some point just stopped coming home, although she kept in touch with her grandmother. Once she was 18, she could pretty much stay where she wanted to, even if her grandmother had told her to live at home.

JMO

And she wanted MM and the crowd around him? What in the heck was the attraction?
Drugs?