ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 2

[askfornina]

jessica reynolds: we have reported it many times to DHS, i didn't let child go with him, was told i had to give the child to him.

 

[stilettos]

Hearsay . . .

You see bruises on your child that occurred while she was in custody of Dad without a valid reason - might be hearsay bit dam*ed suspicious. You find a broken bone on child in custody of Dad...Dad says _ "I fell on the child - she broke her arm" mighty suspicious - hearsay - but I would be dam*ed sure I found out what really happned. Hearsay could keep you from finding your child and what happned to her - I wouldn't let the matter of hinky hear-say stop me.

 

[askfornina]

JVM talking about text messages again, apparently TR said that JD texted her days/weeks before Ayla went missing, said "i'm scared/paranoid someone is going to take ayla" *paraphrased*

have to wait for transcript or video

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

It is time for this man to get his *advertiser censored** in the chair and tell LE what happened to Ayla. I am so sick of these monsters offing their children and getting away with it...it needs to STOP NOW!!! Good thing I am not Mom or Grandma...cause I would so have my happy behind up in his face demanding answers...and they would have to shackle me up to stop me!:furious::banghead:

I love your hutzpah! Can you imagine the pain of the perp that would try now to take any WSer's baby angels?
Fireworks comes to mind!
Go WSer's!

 

[krimekat]

JVM show: I don't think Ayla's father was "foreign" to her! Her saw her on regular intervals & kept her when the mother could not (did not have a home, was in Rehab, no telling what else)

Just an example of why we need families raising children, not just procreation with no purpose (isn't that what separated us from animals in the first place?)

 

[Donjeta]

I understand that perhaps some 20 month old children might sleep 12 hours, however, this child had a cast on her arm, of which, would be cumbersome, and would surely wake her up if she could not get comfortable.

So maybe she did wake up but she was miles from the house at the time?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Surelly she is gonna have a wet or dirty diaper in 12 hours ..How long was he gonna possiblly leave her in a wet or dirty diaper..

Good point ...

Not to go off topic ... but I know people who check on their dogs and pets more often than that ...

MOO ...

 

[Donjeta]

JVM talking about text messages again, apparently TR said that JD texted her days/weeks before Ayla went missing, said "i'm scared/paranoid someone is going to take ayla" *paraphrased*

have to wait for transcript or video

I can't watch right now but if he's got issues too he might have had good reason to be afraid of the CPS...?

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Part of stream drained in search for missing toddler

WATERVILLE — A section of Messalonskee Stream was drained overnight as investigators on today continued to look for clues in the disappearance of toddler Ayla Reynolds.

Investigators examined Dumpsters, garages, backyards, ball fields and small wooded areas near the Violette Avenue home where the 20-month-old girl was last seen sleeping in her bed.

“In a quick briefing, the warden service said it had been drained down because they were going to walk the banks and there would be a flyover,” Waterville Police Chief Joseph Massey told reporters this afternoon. “And because of the low water, as you might expect, visibility would be a lot better.”

http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/Stream-drained-in-search-for-missing-girl.html

Thanks for the info. And I LOVE your virtual snowy Christmas card! :seeya:

 

[Patty G]

I am recording the show and it will be uploaded to my YouTube channel once the show ends.

http://www.youtube.com/Sierra1947

 

[not_my_kids]

A family is the group or individual that loves a child and has their best interests at heart. That is what we need more of...how many people are in the family or whether the child was created with a purpose have no bearing.

Time and time again we see cases like this where neither one of the parents nor any of the people around them had the best interests of the child in mind, and that is the problem.

 

[Donjeta]

Surelly she is gonna have a wet or dirty diaper in 12 hours ..How long was he gonna possiblly leave her in a wet or dirty diaper..

I don't know what he was going to do but when my children were her age I never woke them up to change a diaper. If it was too wet they would wake up and complain. Usually the diapers were dry most of the night anyway and they would get wet close to the waking up time.

 

[krimekat]

Surelly she is gonna have a wet or dirty diaper in 12 hours ..How long was he gonna possiblly leave her in a wet or dirty diaper..

wouldn't she be potty trained? my niece was by 20 months . . . and never got up to use the bathroom when staying with me (don't know about 12 hours, but definitely 8 hours okay)

 

[Kat]

Just checking in, I left yesterday and there are about 30 pages I need to read. It will take me a while to ever catch up because I won't be back long enough to read that much for a bit.

I got to hear bits and pieces of NG last night. Not the entire show. JMHO at this point and time and of course it could change as more info comes out but at this time I'm thinking this isn't a case where she wandered out and this isn't a case where the baby was abducted (unless---unless we find out in the future who was there prior/visiting or living there as well and it turns out they did it).

Dysfunction. 99% of these missing children cases have so much dysfunction in the home or between the parents or the parent(s) themselves. Breaks my heart.

JMHO but this won't end well. Makes me nauseous to think about it.

(Mom said last night that Dad is "vindictive", when she said that my stomach fell into my feet---we see that so many times).

All JMHO and not based on any facts so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[krimekat]

You see bruises on your child that occurred while she was in custody of Dad without a valid reason - might be hearsay bit dam*ed suspicious. You find a broken bone on child in custody of Dad...Dad says _ "I fell on the child - she broke her arm" mighty suspicious - hearsay - but I would be dam*ed sure I found out what really happned. Hearsay could keep you from finding your child and what happned to her - I wouldn't let the matter of hinky hear-say stop me.

Directed specific to my post:

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another person concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience.

I mentioned hearsay thinking, as JVM was purporting the best friend/stepsister/aunt providing information during HLN coverage, it would be considered hearsay in a court of law not in the here & now . . .

We know what we think we would do in a situation . . . whatever. (rolling of the eyes)

Ayla's mother's family did not report any abuse, apparently.

I am thinking the strange vehicle could be maternal influence . . . since CFS is so against them & gave Ayla to her dad.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

With complete respect to those whose opinions differ:

I absolutely think the parents of a missing child (especially these "missing from their beds" type of cases) should be treated as "POIs". As should anyone else who was in the home or had access to the missing child. From the first minute.

That does not mean overstepping legal procedures or harassing the parents, but they should be surveilled and questioned, vehicles should be searched, etc. Too much valuable time can pass if the parents are not immediately looked at for the disappearance.

I think (I won't say I KNOW, because who does unless they find themselves in that position?) that I would expect to be treated as a suspect/POI if my child went missing under suspicious circumstances while in my care. And as I have said before, I would retain an attorney right away. It would be the sensible thing to do and I honestly don't see how an innocent parent having representation impedes an investigation.

That said, I do think that parents who do not cooperate with LE either on their own or under the advice of counsel are highly suspect. Finding that child should be the MOST important thing and an innocent parent, it seems, would move heaven and earth to cooperate.

And by cooperate, I mean with LE. I totally get not wanting to speak to the press and they are under no obligation to tell 'us' anything. As much as we want to know EVERYTHING. And I do. I just can't say that not talking to the media looks hinky.

I SO agree with you! The people in whose care a child is, should be held accountable until the child is found!:furious:

Otherwise, what responsibilities do we need anyway? If there is no respect for life, care, and safety of a child or person under our care...where are the values that make life worthwhile?:maddening:

I don't think this makes as much sense as I would like it to...but it's coming from my heart more than from my brain!:seeya:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I don't know about meds, but Mom said that Ayla did not make it to her doctor's appointment on Friday...

Whoa ....... I was just back-tracking to catch up and just saw this :

I missed this and I thought I read all the links -- not questioning you at all, Clu, -- but do you know what interview Mom said this in ?

If Ayla did NOT make it to her appointment on Friday -- which is the day before Ayla went "missing" ...

IMO that should send up some BIG red flags ... Is is POSSIBLE that something happened to her on Friday ... and then the "cover-up" ? :waitasec:

MOO MOO and another MOO ...

 

[not_my_kids]

wouldn't she be potty trained? my niece was by 20 months . . . and never got up to use the bathroom when staying with me (don't know about 12 hours, but definitely 8 hours okay)

My oldest daughter didn't potty train until the night before her 3rd birthday. She took off the diaper herself and was done with it. My youngest daughter is still not trained and she will be 3 in May. She's just at the point where she'll sit on her potty without freaking out. My oldest son was almost 4, which was good considering that they told us not to expect it from him until he was 7 or 8, if ever. My middle son trained himself at 18 months and has never had an accident, even when sleeping a 10 or 12 hour night.

All kids are different.

 

[momshrink]

I don't know what he was going to do but when my children were her age I never woke them up to change a diaper. If it was too wet they would wake up and complain. Usually the diapers were dry most of the night anyway and they would get wet close to the waking up time.

I have 6 kids and had about 22 foster babies and I learned with the first one that you don't wake a sleeping baby. :crazy:

 

[askfornina]

Whoa ....... I was just back-tracking to catch up and just saw this :

I missed this and I thought I read all the links -- not questioning you at all, Clu, -- but do you know what interview Mom said this in ?

If Ayla did NOT make it to her appointment on Friday -- which is the day before Ayla went "missing" ...

IMO that should send up some BIG red flags ... Is is POSSIBLE that something happened to her on Friday ... and then the "cover-up" ? :waitasec:

MOO MOO and another MOO ...

here you go dog.gone.cute
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1112/19/ng.01.html

REYNOLDS: Because her father has never had anything to do with her up until I needed to go and get a little bit of help for myself. And then when I left my daughter with my sister, that`s when he decided, You know what? I`m going to take Ayla.

And I want to put it out there that every time my daughter has gone with Justin, she would always come back with bruises on her or she had come back with a pulled muscle. And in the 18 months that I had had my daughter, not once did she ever end up missing, did she ever end up with a broken bone, did she ever miss a doctor`s appointment. And since she`s been with Justin, she has missed four appointments for shots. And this past Friday, she missed her bone specialist appointment.