MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, Oxford High School shooting, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents* #2

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Watch live: James, Jennifer Crumbley arrest update for Oakland Sheriff
The Oakland County Sheriff's Office is expected to hold a press conference at 4 p.m. Saturday to address the arrest of Jennifer and James Crumbley, the parents of Oxford High School shooting suspect Ethan Crumbley, according to a release.

The press conference will take place at the sheriff's office headquarters located at 1200 N Telegraph Road in Pontiac, Building 38 East.

(freep.com)

 
To clear up a few things you all have asked me: The $500,000 bond for both Crumbley parents is cash surety. That means they cannot just pay 10%. Their lawyers insist yesterday’s manhunt was because of a miscommunication. Should be interesting to hear what sheriff has to say soon.

https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1467231147268710400
Thanks. So, this means the couple must come up with one-million-dollars to get out of jail? I understand if they pay the bond, they will be fitted with GPS monitor.
 
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This is a good time to review the case law on student searches and the Fourth Amendment. While students certainly have a fair amount of 4A protection, it's unfathomable to me to read cases like NJ v. T.L.O. as a meaning the school couldn't search this kid's backpack. THREAD.
 
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Oxford Superintendent calls for independent investigation meantime continues to defend choice to send accused gunman back to class
Interesting new info (to me anyways)…the ammo search and the drawing meeting were handled by the guidance counselor, and not elevated to principal or VP. He says the guidance counselor did not know EC had access to a gun, but did know they were at a shooting range recently.
 
More Than 100 Michigan Schools Close Due To Copycat Threats After Oxford High Shooting
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More Than 100 Michigan Schools Close Due To Copycat Threats After Oxford High Shooting
Many schools are expected to close on Monday, and parents are urged to check their student's school website.[/URL]
 
From the PC:
They have extensive video from the school.
18 unexpended rounds were found. 18 additional deaths that could have happened.
Inundated with threats. Against the candlelight vigil. Against individual officers. Huge spike in threats.
 
In regards to the parents, a manhunt was activated. They even had helicopter assistance from boarder patrol.

11:05pm they were alerted to the parents. They were in an art studio within the building. They were taken into custody around 1:30am.

All 3 are in the jail, but then are segregated in isolation. They have advance watch on them. No indication that any of them are suicidal but out of an abundance of caution, they are on suicide watch.

Sheriff believes they were assisted to get into the location. When done gathering information, they will bring it to the prosecutor for aiding and abetting or obstruction of justice.

U.S Marshall: Wants to thank the Sheriff's office. The team down in Detroit did a phenomenal job identifying the vehicle and getting these two into custody.

Q: Did he parents say anything? Sheriff won't talk about it because it'll become part of the evidence.

Q: Crumbly attorneys said that it's a miscommunication and they were going to turn themselves in, is there truth to this? Once the warrant was in hand, we looked for them. They could have turned themselves in. We also had communication that they didn't have contact with their attorneys. Given that they were hiding they were hiding in a warehouse in Detroit, it raises my eyebrows.

Q. Why were they in Detroit? That's the question. We don't know.

Q. Can you give clarity as to know that they were "hiding" - When the tip came in, they were spooked and pretty much ran away. I think where they were, and how they were, seems to support the position they were hiding and not looking for surrendering.

Q. What are the criminal ramifications for the people that helped them? We don't have charges at this point, but it's part of the investigation. Any applicable charges is the prosecutors decision. We have enough early indications that someone let them into the location and made it available to them and it was after it was publicly announced there were warrants.

Q. Do you know where they were between Rochester and Detroit? The last time we saw them in person was when we executed search warrants of the home with regard to Ethan and the school shooting.

Q. Do they get to talk to their son in jail? No talking, no communication, in isolation. We segregate genders, and ages.

Q. Does the person who call 911 get the reward? If that person did come forward and give their name, they may be entitled to that reward.

Q. Couldn't hear the questions - checking on them multiple times an hour.

Q. Can you describe the mental state? We have nothing to leave us to believe that anyone has any mental health challenges.

Q. Are they facing additional charges? They were in a state of distress, can you talk about that? Additional charges - that will be determined by the prosecutor. But it lends to the original charge - if no culpability, why were they there? As to distress - we don't' want to go into that.

Q. Prosecutor didn't let you know ahead of time, was your department caught off guard with these charges? We had some disconnect.

Q. Did Ethan know that his parents were charged, and what has his reaction been? He hasn't said anything, none of them are communicating with any extent to us. he wouldn't have been made aware since he's in isolation.

Q. Does he know that his parents are in custody? My guess is no.

Q. Since he's under 16, is there an education program he will be attending? Our first priority is to get him to trial and his represented. We also have covid limitations and we limit those that come into the jail.

Q. Will there be an investigation into the schools behavior? Everything will be under investigation and every tidbit will go to the prosecutor.

Q. Are any school officials are under investigation? The situation is, and if there is someone in that process or timeline triggers criminality, that will be up to the prosecutor.

Q. Regards to the person in Detroit, is there any indication of the relationship? yes, but we aren't giving that info out yet.

Q. They said they weren't harmed, but was the $4K found on them? I don't have the inventory sheet so I can't answer that.

Q. Ethan explained the drawing was designing a video game, what did the counselor see? I'd have to check to see. Ethan scratched over some areas.

Q. The attorneys for the parents said that the info is cherry-picked/slanted, does the info released so far depict a fair representation of what happened? That is the picture and we will be filling it in, and i believe it's accurate.

Q. Superintendent asked to release some video, will that happen? No, that is evidence and given to the prosecutor.

Q. Any estimate how long you will process the crime scene? They were done about 5:30 the day after.

No plan to move any of them. If they post bond, they will be released.

Q. For the deputies who responded, how are they doing? They are trained to go to the gunfire or the sound of the chaos, because if they stop more people can be killed. It's an unnatural act to pass a child either hurt or in terror. This is what they did, and as a result, there were some 18 unexpended rounds. There could have been 18 more kids that they saved. They are struggling in a big way. I told them it's not weakness to get help or ask for help. They will never be the same. We are going to do everything we can to help them, to try to process it and move forward in a healthy way. We are inundated with threats - at the vigil, at the memorial.

Q. Can yo talk about the threats? And the person who fainted/collapse? There was non verified threats, but there was a very heavy presence. Our helicopter was there. When the person fainted, people screamed and everyone was scared. If you make a threat, and it's investigated and its not credible, we will find you and prosecute you under the law. It's not funny, it's a crime.
 
Q. Yesterday we heard a lot of details about the relationship between the parents and Ethan, have you found any evidence in the home that this was going ot happen? I won't get specific, but we have clear evidence that this was premeditated and he was looking forward to it.
 
This makes a lot more sense to me now. No admin. in the meeting, who, imo, are typically quicker to give out more extreme consequences. I wonder how experienced the counselor was. I suspect they believed the danger was the shooter harming himself. But being at a shooting range should have tipped the balance to not sending him back to class. Horrible mistake.

Interesting new info (to me anyways)…the ammo search and the drawing meeting were handled by the guidance counselor, and not elevated to principal or VP. He says the guidance counselor did not know EC had access to a gun, but did know they were at a shooting range recently.
 
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