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I’m not sure I buy that.Attorney Lehman - She didn't know that there was a 4pm arraignment, and the other attorney didn't know either.
I’m not sure I buy that.Attorney Lehman - She didn't know that there was a 4pm arraignment, and the other attorney didn't know either.
Yep. And I just came to post this, from the NYT this morning. I was originally thinking the school couldn’t force him to leave because technically he hadn’t done anything yet, but that doesn’t appear to be the case. Just like with Parkland and others, so many missed opportunities to prevent the bloodshed.From the New York Times, 35 minutes ago:
"...School officials told the parents during the in-person meeting that they were required to seek counseling for their son, Ethan, Ms. McDonald said. The teenager’s parents did not want their son to be removed from school that day, and did not ask him whether he had the gun with him or search the backpack he brought with him to the office, Ms. McDonald said..."
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The school principal showed the parents a note, written by their son the morning on the shooting, in which he depicted an image of a gun and a person who had been shot twice.
He included the words:
"Blood everywhere” and “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.”
The alleged shooter is a 15-year-old child. A child whose parents and school principal had ample evidence upon viewing the note that he was possibly/probably/actually experiencing a severe mental crisis. He was definitely asking for help.
In a country where school shootings occur with chilling frequency, no help was offered. No intervention was implemented. No attempt was made to avert the subsequent tragedy.
Why?
Because the parents didn't want him their son to be removed from the school that day. And school officials saw fit to have him return to class, in spite of recognizing he needed help. They simply admonished the parents to seek counselling for him. Not now. Later.
I'm staggered by the demonstrated negligence of all the adults in the room. I'm stunned by their ignorance.
Facing Charges, Parents of Michigan Shooting Suspect Are Now Fugitives
I’m not sure I buy that.
Supposedly, Lehman was on a plane from FL to Michigan and the other was in Court. But the prosecutor did say there was a break from 11:30 to 2:30 or something like that. They claim they noticed their appearances late (Told the court that they were representing the Crumbleys)
Don’t they have assistance or staff to help with logistics like this to keep them informed?Supposedly, Lehman was on a plane from FL to Michigan and the other was in Court. But the prosecutor did say there was a break from 11:30 to 2:30 or something like that. They claim they noticed their appearances late (Told the court that they were representing the Crumbleys)
With such a high profile case involving a mass murder by a child one would think someone would be on top of that.Supposedly, Lehman was on a plane from FL to Michigan and the other was in Court. But the prosecutor did say there was a break from 11:30 to 2:30 or something like that. They claim they noticed their appearances late (Told the court that they were representing the Crumbleys)
Don’t they have assistance or staff to help with logistics like this to keep them informed?
This prosecutor isn’t really a very eloquent speaker. It’s like her thoughts are going way too fast for her mouth to keep up lol (I’m like that!). But I have to give her props for charging these parents for their part in this tragedy. It’s about time parents are held responsible. School shooters don’t exist in a vacuum. Something made them that way, and no it’s not always the parents. But when it is, they should be held accountable. Moo
thank you, seems possible they really did not knowThey claim that they filed the notice of appearance late, so prior to that, since they weren't the attorney of record, the wouldn't be told of the arraignment time.
Will they be able to post bond? How much would their house be worth?
I'd be shocked if they decided to separate...as they will need each other. Who else do they have? Also, they are quite the pair.
If the law enforcement finds out who left the couple in the building to hide from getting caught, what will the person be charged with? Aiding fugitives? Or did that person also turn them in? Police knew exactly what they were wearing etc. was the car on the street? Or in a garage?
Well obviously they lost their bearings on the way to turn themselves in. :eye roll:James and Jennifer Crumbley found in basement of Detroit building after hours of searching
DETROIT (FOX 2) - James and Jennifer Crumbley, the parents of accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley, were arrested early Saturday in Detroit after hours of searching.
The Crumbleys were charged with four counts each of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the high school shooting Tuesday. Their son, Ethan Crumbley, 15, is accused of killing four students with a gun his father purchased four days prior.
The search started early Friday afternoon. A team of authorities, including Detroit police and the U.S. Marshals, had been looking for the Crumbleys in an area just northeast of Downtown Detroit after their vehicle was found on Bellevue Street.
According to police, the Crumbleys were in the basement of the building where their vehicle was found just before 2 a.m. Saturday.
They were just sleeping in a Detroit commercial building because they were scared. They were going to turn themselves in at 8:30 this morning their lawyers said.It’s sort of surprising to me they were given bail at all. They literally were running away and had to be hunted down with absolute no indication they were going to turn themselves in. Huge flight risk if there ever was one IMO.
Wonder if their attorney will ditch them. Sure made a liar out of her. jmo