MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, Oxford High School shooting, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents* #3

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Should Ethan Crumbley be held in jail? (detroitnews.com)

Pontiac — A judge is poised Tuesday possibly to keep accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley at the Oakland County Jail rather than return him to a juvenile facility, a ruling that would run counter to national trends and a new federal law that took effect in December.

Oakland County Circuit Judge Kwame Rowe will consider a request by Crumbley's court-appointed attorney and court-appointed guardian that the 15-year-old be housed at Children's Village, a juvenile detention facility in Pontiac designed to provide a "therapeutic environment" for youths.

Crumbley was charged as an adult with 24 felonies, including terrorism and first-degree murder, in the Nov. 30 shooting that took the lives of four schoolmates — Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; Tate Myre, 16; and Justin Shilling, 17 — and injured six other students and a teacher. He faces up to life in prison without parole if convicted...
 
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Should Ethan Crumbley be held in jail? (detroitnews.com)

Pontiac — A judge is poised Tuesday possibly to keep accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley at the Oakland County Jail rather than return him to a juvenile facility, a ruling that would run counter to national trends and a new federal law that took effect in December.

Oakland County Circuit Judge Kwame Rowe will consider a request by Crumbley's court-appointed attorney and court-appointed guardian that the 15-year-old be housed at Children's Village, a juvenile detention facility in Pontiac designed to provide a "therapeutic environment" for youths.

Crumbley was charged as an adult with 24 felonies, including terrorism and first-degree murder, in the Nov. 30 shooting that took the lives of four schoolmates — Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; Tate Myre, 16; and Justin Shilling, 17 — and injured six other students and a teacher. He faces up to life in prison without parole if convicted...

Scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm!
 
Accused Oxford High School shooter due in court as judge weighs transfer request (clickondetroit.com)

Lawyers want Crumbley moved out of Oakland County Jail

The suspect in the Oxford High School mass shooting is due in court -- in person -- on Tuesday, as a judge weighs a request to transfer the juvenile out of Oakland County Jail.

Lawyers for 15-year-old Ethan Crumbley, who is charged with fatally shooting four fellow students and wounding seven other people back in November, say the teen should be moved to the Children’s Village juvenile detention facility because he could hear adult inmates inside the jail. He’s currently being held at the Oakland County Jail.

A judge previously denied this request, but the transfer request will be heard in circuit court, by a different judge on Tuesday...

(You can watch the hearing live at 2 p.m. on ClickOnDetroit)

 
Tuesday hearing to address placement for accused Oxford High shooter (detroitnews.com)

Accused Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley is due in court Tuesday for a hearing over the teen's placement as he awaits trial and whether the media should have access to sensitive evidence in the case.

Crumbley, 15, is charged with the fatal shooting of four fellow students and the wounding of seven other people, including a teacher, at the high school on Nov. 30.

The in-person hearing, before Oakland County Circuit Judge Kwame Rowe, is scheduled for 2 p.m. ...
 
The hearing is solely as to determine where Ethan should be placed: The jail or the Children's Village.

They are uncuffing his right hand so that he can communicate effectively.

There will be three witnesses; 18 exhibits for the People, and 1 exhibit for the defense.. The parties discussed the exhibit and agreed that they should be viewed in camera (in chambers) at the time. There are also three videos that the Court is made to review before making a decision. They were made in the shed; one is the killing of the bird. There is also a picture of a severed bird head.

Brief Opening Statement:
They ask that the defendant remained confined in the jail.
Interest of Justice: age, physical and mental maturity of the juvenile, the mental state of the juvenile including whether he presents a risk of harm to himself, history of delinquent acts, available of adults to meet the needs of the juveniles and protect the public, his crime, and other factors.

Age: evidence will show that despite his age he discussed topics and interest beyond that of a 15 year old. He outlined a plan to stalk, rape, and torture and kill a female classmate. He wrote about the joy he felt when he killed the birds. He wrote his admiration for Hitler and Jeffrey Dahmer. He said he would surrender so that he can witness the pain and suffering he caused.

In a video he identified himself as the next school shooter.

To put him in the Children's Village, would harm the safety of the other kids there.

Prior Delinquent Acts: his antisocial behavior is concerning. He allows people to see who he wants them to see and only those close to him would understand and recognize it. He's fascinated by violence. When he committed those murders, he did it to be remembered, obtain recognition, and cause harm.

He is not isolated - he can watch TV, he has access to a tablet, he can play games, and read books. He has phone privileges, has mail, and a commisary account.

DEFENSE STATEMENT:
Defense has met EC 12 times.

What's happened since he's been charged is what is important.

Evidence will show that in the time leading up to the events, he was hallucinating, he was hearing voices, not eating properly, and asked his parents for therapy. At the time of the event, he was not receiving any therapy.

He has very limited interaction with anyone. He's in a cement room with a glass door. The extreme isolation harms EC. He has access to the phone but he doesn't have any numbers. Tablet is set up for communication so strangers email him and he can respond to those emails. He interacts with a case worker and psychiatrist once a week for a few minutes.

Jail isn't equipped for handling juvenlies with respect for activity. Only for a shower or for a visitation booth is he out of his cell.
 
First Witness: Christina Belling

Employed with the Sheriff's office, as an inmate case worker.

Case Worker: assess and manage crisis that comes into the jail - such as a high profile case, suicidal. Then work with medical and psychiatrist to get services. Once managed, they assess mental health changes.

She has worked with juveniles in the jail. She's worked with under 10 as a case worker. She is the case worker for EC. She was assigned the day that he came in - Dec. 1, 2021.

She was meeting with EC daily. There were a few occassions a few times a day, but mostly once a day. Can be from 5 minutes and up.

She assessed for mental health issues.

She is no longer meeting with him on a daily basis, but twice a week. This changed when he came off a constant watch approx. one month ago.

If he needed medical treatment it would be available to him. They met in front of the cell door within the clinic.

A licensed psychiatarist would be available to him.

She currently has about 70 inmates, but doesn't meet with any of them two times a week. But with EC he meets two times a week due to his counseling and that he's a juvenile.

DEFENSE CROSS:

Adults inmates assigned to her have been hundreds - could be thousands.

She currently has only one juvenile, EC.

She decides what kind of what EC someone is. He was on a constant watch. He has a deputy outside observing him 24/7 to ensure his safety and security. Due to this, he still has suicide blankets, but he's not on suicide watch.

She sees him on Mondays, but this past week he wasn't there at the end of the week. The records would show that she did see him twice a week. There are also other case workers who will fill in.

She doesn't decide about access to the tablet. Nothing to do with food delivery or the type of food he gets.

She doesn't have anything to do with education. She's not aware whether he's getting any education services.

The makeup of clinic to cell location: he's in an individual cell, there is a half glass door that looks forward. If he looks out the door, there is a tv on the ceiling, he may see staff.

REBUTTAL:
The factors that went into the determination to take him off suicide watch - she cannot discuss these as it's privileged.

She has provided him Harry Potter books. To her knowledge, he's read them.

If he needed to reach her, he would tell the deputy and the deputy would call her. And she would make an exception to put him to the top of the list.

Asked again about general factors to take a person off suicide watch: When the decision is made, she collaborates with others. She wouldn't take anyone off suicide watch for which she had concerns about their safety.

Judge is asking questions:
He's currently on a behavior watch. Step down from suicide watch to further assess for behavior changes.

DEFENSE FOLLOW UP
Meetings with EC, sometimes they are longer than 5 minutes but they take place in his cell doorway.
 
Second Witness: Heather Calcaterra

PEOPLE
She's employed at oakland county Children's village. She's a manager. Oversees the day to day operations of the campus.

Children's Village - residential treatment, secured treatment, and shelter care services.

Secured treatment center is connected to the detention center.

Someone held prior to trial would only get services if ordered by the court.

Detention: Young people detained awaiting trial. Holds 60 people. Ages 11-17. It can be older or younger.

Shelter care is birth to 17 ages.

Those in secured detention have been accused of committing a crime. There are all crimes there, from a drug offense, assult, retail fraud, to joyriding. Delinquent crimes to violent crime.

38 in secured detention. None are there for murder.

In Secured detention - 1 large building. 2 units for males, one for femals. Try to separate on age, separate co-defendants. In terms of a day, they wake up around 7am, quick clean up, quick hygene, breakfast, school, recreation, homework time, dinner and more quiet tim, then hygene for bed prep.

Each unit has a separate hallway. They go to one main school hall.

The residents have their own rooms. There is a door, and a window in the door. There is no glass wall. Most rooms consist of a cement slab, with a mattress brought in, and there are some room with toilets.

They are in their rooms from 830pm to 7am. Meals are in a cafeteria. Rec time can be outside. There is a day room to play board games, cards, watch TV.

Children's Village is meant to be termporary. Those in secured detention they are waiting to be moved - either home or into a treatment area.

In detention, there is 1 staff to 8 residents during waking hours. There is cross gender staffing.

Youth Specialist has the most contact with children. They maintain the ratio, they supervise them in school, eating, hygene etc.. In the Cafeteria, there could be more than youth specialist. The 1:8 ratio is maintained.

Are the YS meant to monitor behaviors or conversations? They monitor the behaviors and conversations but they would likely not hear all the conversations.

Would EC be housed in a different area or secluded? He would be in the same group with his peers.

YS: be 21, high school diploma and no felonies.

Behavior issues: YS would call for assistance - other supervises on campus would come to the area. But they may not be close by.

Anyone requited to have LE training? No. No one is armed.

YS: get training in house. The training focuses on non-phsyical management techniques. They do train for physical but used as a last resort.

There have been times they needed to call LE. Those come from the Oaland County jail.

They also have case managers, clinicians (licensed), supervisors, and teachers from the Waterford school district.

Case Managers report to the court.
Licensed Clinician comes to campus two days a week. He dos medication management. Generally called for medication.
They have their own clinicians - they have 1 in detention. She is licensed, a professional counselor.

Heather is also licensed counselor. No specialty to juveniles.

Clinician provides crisis intervention (suicidal, anxiety, hyper arousal, depression) and med. management. If none is outwardly manifested, they could go missing these things.

They are currently experiencing staffing shortages. They have two clinician vacanies, and YS vacancies.

They have had issues mainting 1:8 because they didn't have enough staff. Implemented a lockdown. Each resident would stay in their cell all day and night. Staff would do 15 minute checks. A knock on the door or yell for staff member.

In the room, they can have 2 reading material items. No access to TV, tablet, no video games.

Food: Cafeteria style where everyone gets the same meal.

No accounts for money to get items of want or need.

School Aspect:
They move to different classrooms but stay within the same group and with the YS. They stay in the hallway. Classes divided by Units.
There is only 1 teacher.

She didn't know if Waterford could reject sending a teacher to a classroom with a specific person.

They do not provide Alice training, the teachers receive it through schools. It's training in case of an emergency in a school such as a shooting.

There are textbooks, pencils are checked out with the metal removed, they don't use staples. The pencils are sharp and could be used as a weapon.

Sorry everyone - my son is coming home soon and i have to get him off the bus!! I won't be able to continue.
 
DEFENSE CROSS:

Rec time isn't all physical. But it's an hour. There is a gym class.

Communication with the outside world is limited. Any letters from someone not on the list would be returned.

Seclusion will be prohibited as of May 1st because it will no longer be allowed in child care institution.

They've had residents there multiple times, behavior issues and have been accused of assault crimes.

The core curriculum - math, science, reading.. for all grades.

They earn credits. It's possible to graduate from school from Children's village.

School is 8:05 to 3:15pm. The time is very structured.

Once they leave the facility to go to jail, they aren't responsible for providing education. They haven't arranged for education in jail.

What is hygene: It's brushing teeth, washing face. In the evening you get to shower. The CV provides the toothbrush, toothpaste, soap, towels etc..

YS have to maintain line of sight.

Is provided contact with attorneys.

REBUTTAL:

There are no sharp knives in the kitchen. All the items in CV remain in CV.

Communications don't venture out to strangers. Most interaction is the group.

If they don't participate in class in HW, it would be reflected in their grades and reported to the Court. The school can still take some action - school slips, contacting parent/guardian.

There have been accused of murder in CV, none of those have been accused of murder in school. None murdered classmates. No mass shooters.

The shortage of staff impacts the whole campus.
 
WITNESS 3: Captain Tom Vida

Employed with the Oakland County Sheriff's office. There for 22+ years, Captain for a year.

In the last year, there have been approx 4 juveniles in the jail. Besides, EC there is another juvenile in the jail.

EC came to the jail on Dec 1, 2021. The arrangements were: they had to find selective housing for him, he was on a constant watch, they initiated contact with case worker staff, they had team meetings with the medical staff and the kitchen staff to ensure he was getting the proper food intake.

Selective Housing: he couldn't go into gen pop. He's housed in J10 in the jail clinic. Cement cell, a glass front door, toilet, small half partition. He purchased commissary - paper, pencils, books, he can have in his cell.

Constant watch: staff a deputy directly in front of the inmate to make sure they aren't hurting themselves. Suicidal, highly violent.

Ester Seals: The medical contractor that provides the psych doctors.

The decision of constant watch was a team decision. He's not on constant watch., but he is monitored.

It's a behavior watch - every 15 mins a deputy will walk by his cell to make sure he is okay. They aren't lay people in the jail.

Team approach is responsible for his supervision. Program services, case work staff, medical doctor, psych dr, jail clinic, classification unit, and the deputies.

If need to make concact with someone outside of his cell, there is a call buzzer. The drs office is next to him, and the nursing stations are to the right, he could knock on the window or talk to a deputy when he comes around.

There are times he's out of his cell, those would be a deputy with him. They aren't armed in the jail.

Outside of the cell - visits, use the phone, use the shower.

On Constant watch: operation summary and an abbreviated log. It's a fill in form. The date, time intervals, and what they are doing - laying, standing.

Exhibit 14A. It's an active suicide summary sheet. To document description codes as to what someone is doing.

Exhibit 16 - Event history. It's a print out from the jail management system.

Currently rec is suspeded due to Covid. Prior to it being suspended, he was offered Rec time and EC didn't participates. Inmates can refuse to participate and refuse to take a shower. EC did refuse to take a shower for a period of time.

EC has access to educational opportunities. The inmate table system. There is an education resource. He askes the deputy for a tablet and he will get it. The tablet is shared. There is a time limit to usage based on demand. Conn Academy for K-12.

Other Apps: stuff for books, movies, personal calendar, able to view mail, photographs, send to greviences, and law library. Activity can be tracked for the most part.

Each person has their own sign on. Capatain wasn't able to check if he accessed Conn Academy.

There are games and emails accessible as well.

Games on the tablet are available to any inmate in the jail. EC did access games. Doesn't recall seeing books. Read some Harry Potter books.

Email: he has to send an invitation to someone and the person has to accept it. An account can be created. There is a cost for the messaging. He can receives messages from those he doesn't know.

Commissory is paper from shampoo to different sources of food, chips.

When he arrived there was no money on his account. Now he does have money on his account. His account is pretty excessive. Anyone can put money on his account (MOO - WHO IS PUTTING ALL THIS MONEY?)

EC has purchased paper, pencils, deordorant. There's no limits to purchase.

He's not had any restrictions.

I have to step away for a moment.
 
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