GUILTY MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, Oxford High School shooting, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents* *teen guilty* #4

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oxford High shooter stays in jail, but new prison hearing date set

Oxford High shooter Ethan Crumbley is remaining in the Oakland County Jail after a hearing that came a day before the shooting's one year anniversary.

www.detroitnews.com

Pontiac — Oxford High School shooter Ethan Crumbley is remaining in the Oakland County Jail after a Tuesday hearing before Oakland County Circuit Court Judge Kwame Rowe, a short meeting that occurred a day before the one year anniversary of the shooting.

A month after he pleaded guilty to all charges in the Oxford High School shooting, Crumbley was back in court virtually Tuesday morning for the placement hearing as required by federal law every 30 days because of he 16 years old and being held in an adult facility.

Crumbley, his attorneys and prosecutors all appeared in a Zoom hearing before Rowe, who continued Crumbley's stay in the jail after all parties involved advised there was nothing new to report regarding the case...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Michigan Supreme Court postpones trial for Crumbley parents in Oxford school shooting case

The Michigan Supreme Court on Tuesday postponed the January trial for the parents of the teenager who killed four students at his high school, a victory for defense lawyers who argue that involuntary manslaughter charges don’t fit.

www.clickondetroit.com

DETROIT – The Michigan Supreme Court on Tuesday postponed the January trial for the parents of the teenager who killed four students at his high school, a victory for defense lawyers who argue that involuntary manslaughter charges don’t fit.

The court ordered the state appeals court to hear an appeal from James and Jennifer Crumbley...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Class-action status sought for Oxford lawsuit stemming from 2021 shooting

Lawyers for a parents group called Change4Oxford said Oxford Community Schools "failed to meet the basic expectation of a safe learning environment."

www.detroitnews.com

A federal lawsuit against Oxford Community Schools to make changes in the school system in the wake of last year's deadly shooting at Oxford High School may be expanded to include all of the district's students.

Lawyers for a parents group called Change4Oxford said Tuesday they have filed a motion to amend their suit into a class-action complaint against the district and include every child in the 5,700-student district. The group originally filed the suit in June on behalf of 19 students, the attorneys said.

"Oxford Schools shockingly failed to meet the basic expectation of a safe learning environment on Nov. 30, 2021, and since then they have continued to leave students and parents completely unsure if they will encounter violence at school despite the massive wakeup call this tragedy provided," Scott Weidenfeller, an attorney with Grewal Law PLLC, who represents the parent's group...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Families shattered by Oxford shooting share their heartache and hopes

The families and friends of the four Oxford High School victims find ways to honor them.

www.detroitnews.com

Navigating life without your child after a violent attack feels different for every family forever impacted by the Nov. 30, 2021, mass shooting at Oxford High School.

One family is focused on a garden memorial named for the daughter they lost and to honor all four teens who lost their lives that day, while another family is putting energy into a peer-to-peer mentoring program that carries on the selflessness their son showed in his daily life before it was cut short.

One mother is trying to move forward by starting a foundation in her son's name but feels she cannot until she knows the full truth of what happened and who is responsible for the attack.

Some of Oxford's survivors find peace in the unspoken moments while others have taken their grief and turned it into advocacy by forming student-led initiatives to work to curb gun violence and increase opportunities for mental health resources...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Data: 1 year after Oxford, mass shootings persist in Michigan, across nation

In the year since the traumatic Oxford High School shooting in Southeast Michigan, gun violence has continued to be a problem in the state and nationwide.

www.clickondetroit.com

In the year since the traumatic Oxford High School shooting in Southeast Michigan, gun violence has continued to be a problem in the state and nationwide. Mass shootings are particularly on the rise.

Mass shootings are defined by the Gun Violence Archive (GVA) as shootings in which four people are shot or killed, excluding the shooter. For years, the organization has been tracking the number of reported and confirmed shootings across the nation, including but not limited to mass shootings.

On average, 111 people are shot and killed every day in the U.S. -- that’s more than 40,000 people each year. The number of people killed annually in mass shootings specifically is lower, but the number of mass shootings taking place has increased significantly in recent years.

And while gun violence comes in many forms, the brutal mass shootings and mass killings are often covered in the news and online nationwide, making mass shootings the most public representation of gun violence in the U.S. ...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Hana’s Garden to break ground spring 2023 honoring Oxford High School shooting victims

A memorial garden in honor of the Oxford High School shooting victims will break ground in 2023.

www.clickondetroit.com

OXFORD, Mich. – A memorial garden in honor of the Oxford High School shooting victims will break ground in 2023.

Hana’s Garden, dedicated to 14-year-old Hana St. Juliana, 16-year-old Tate Myre, 17-year-old Madisyn Baldwin and 17-year-old Justin Shilling and will be located at the Seymour Lake Township Park in Oxford.

Chris Nordstrom of Ann Arbor-based Carlisle Wortman Associates created the initial garden concept...

 

[abeaman02]

365 days.
RIP Madiysn Baldwin, Justin Shilling, Hana St. Juliana and Tate Myre

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/12/01/school-threats-charges-spiked-exponentially-since-oxford-shooting/69667480007/

A massive increase in threats against Metro Detroit schools in the wake of the Oxford High School shooting has led to an explosion in criminal charges being brought against the alleged perpetrators and prompted two local prosecutors to change how they handle threats cases.

Especially in Oakland County, where an Oxford High School student killed four of his classmates on Nov. 30, 2021, threats and related prosecution have skyrocketed. Prosecutor Karen McDonald's office charged only one threats case in 2021 before the Oxford shooting. Since then, her office has charged more than 40 threats cases.

"Nobody wants to err on the side of 'I'm sure it's not anything to worry about,'" McDonald said. "From what we are seeing, schools are not going to take a chance that it's not a serious threat."

McDonald said she became so concerned with the number of threats her office was seeing that she met with the chiefs of police and superintendents in the county to talk about what they could do...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2022/12/02/guidepost-solutions-oxford-high-shooting-reports-will-be-public-early-2023/69692358007/

Two reports will come out of a third-party investigation into the Nov. 30 mass shooting at Oxford High School and be made public early next year, a company official said.

The first report, due out in early the first quarter of 2023, will detail what Oxford Community Schools currently has in place for school security and threat assessment practices, whether there are gaps in its plan, and recommendations for improvements, said Bradley Dizik, an executive vice president with Guidepost Solutions.

The second report, due out later in the first quarter 2023, is a full accounting of what happened leading up to, on and after the Nov. 30 attack that killed four students and wounded seven others, according to Dizik...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Crumbleys seek lower bond again: We never tried to flee. We can prove it.

The parents of the Oxford school shooter say they have new evidence that discredits claims portraying them as flight risks.

www.freep.com

With their trial on hold indefinitely and their son now a convicted killer, the parents of the Oxford school shooter are asking again to be released on a lower bond, arguing they have new evidence that supports their release.

In a new court filing, lawyers for James and Jennifer Crumbley say they have obtained evidence that proves their clients were never on the run after learning they were being charged last year, as prosecutors have long alleged. The Crumbleys say they never fled, but left Oxford to stay in a friend's Detroit art studio “for their own safety” and planned to surrender the following day at their scheduled court hearing.

Their son Ethan has pleaded guilty to murdering four fellow students on Nov. 30, 2021, and injuring six other students and a teacher. James and Jennifer Crumbley are charged with involuntary manslaughter, the first parents to be charged in a school shooting...

 

[WingsOverTX]

Crumbleys seek lower bond again: We never tried to flee. We can prove it.

The parents of the Oxford school shooter say they have new evidence that discredits claims portraying them as flight risks.

www.freep.com

With their trial on hold indefinitely and their son now a convicted killer, the parents of the Oxford school shooter are asking again to be released on a lower bond, arguing they have new evidence that supports their release.

In a new court filing, lawyers for James and Jennifer Crumbley say they have obtained evidence that proves their clients were never on the run after learning they were being charged last year, as prosecutors have long alleged. The Crumbleys say they never fled, but left Oxford to stay in a friend's Detroit art studio “for their own safety” and planned to surrender the following day at their scheduled court hearing.

Their son Ethan has pleaded guilty to murdering four fellow students on Nov. 30, 2021, and injuring six other students and a teacher. James and Jennifer Crumbley are charged with involuntary manslaughter, the first parents to be charged in a school shooting...

In this Dec. 3, 2021 story, LE said they were on the run:

"The action of fleeing and ignoring their attorney certainly adds weight to the charges," Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard said in a statement. "They cannot run from their part in this tragedy.”

US Marshals join Oakland Co. fugitive team in search for Oxford suspect's parents; rewards offered

The search comes hours after James and Jennifer Crumbley were charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter in the deaths of four students.

www.detroitnews.com

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Crumbleys ask for lower bond to get out of jail

Attorneys on Wednesday filed motions with Oakland County Circuit describing the $500,000 bond for clients as excessive, say they didn't try to flee.

www.detroitnews.com

The parents of the teen charged in a deadly Oxford High School shooting spree last year have filed a court motion that requests they be let out of jail in their involuntary manslaughter case until their trial next year.

...James and Jennifer Crumbley have been described by prosecutors as grossly negligent in their care of their son, who was 15 at the time of shootings. Ethan reportedly asked his parents to provide him with psychiatric counseling because he was hearing voices and having hallucinations. Instead, investigators say, they bought him a handgun as an early Christmas present and took him to a shooting range to learn how to fire the weapon...

The Crumbleys have "evidence" that they were not attempting to flee and waited a year to reveal it? Yeah, right

 

[MrsWatson]

They knew the cops were looking for them and didn't reach out. They had burner phones. They took out a lot of cash from various accounts, even though they were behind on their mortgage and in danger of foreclosure. The "friend" who's art studio they were at barely knew them and it's never been clear to me if he even knew they were camped out there.

But they weren't trying to flee, guvnur!

Pulease.

I do not see them getting a lower bond.

Next they will be saying that Ethan set them up for this and masterminded it with his journal entries and the texts msgs between them.

I think there's a very strong case against the parents.

All MOO of course.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Parents of Oxford shooter request lower bond again, claim they did not flee from arrest

Defense attorneys for the parents of the Oxford High School shooter have once again requested a lower bond, arguing that the parents have been incorrectly identified as a flight risk as they await trial.

www.clickondetroit.com

Defense attorneys for the parents of the Oxford High School shooter have once again requested a lower bond, arguing that the parents have been incorrectly identified as a flight risk as they await trial.

In a motion filed on Dec. 7, lawyers representing James and Jennifer Crumbley -- the parents of the convicted Oxford High School shooter -- requested to have their bond lowered to a more “reasonable” number. Both parents are facing four involuntary manslaughter charges in connection with the Nov. 30, 2021, mass shooting, and have been given $500,000 bonds with no 10% options.

They have been lodged at the Oakland County Jail since Dec. 4, 2021, as they wait to stand trial.

Prosecutors have argued that the Crumbleys are flight risks and should be held on high bonds following the messy circumstances in which the parents were arrested...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Oakland Co. prosecutor: Case against Crumbley parents 'stronger' than ever

In response to a request to lower their bond, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said the Crumbleys are more of a flight risk now than ever.

www.detroitnews.com

Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald claims that her involuntary manslaughter case against the parents of the teen who went on a deadly shooting rampage at Oxford High School in November 2021 is stronger than ever.

McDonald's argument was filed Friday in response to the sixth request for a lower bond filed by defense attorneys on behalf of James and Jennifer Crumbley in a bid to get released from jail while waiting to stand trial on the four counts of involuntary manslaughter tied to the shooting deaths of the four students at Oxford High. The bond is currently $500,000 for each defendant, an amount that their attorneys described as "excessive and unwarranted."

"The case against the Defendants is stronger now (than) it was at the time of any prior bond review," McDonald wrote in a filing in response to the request for a bond review...

 

[WingsOverTX]

Oakland Co. prosecutor: Case against Crumbley parents 'stronger' than ever

In response to a request to lower their bond, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald said the Crumbleys are more of a flight risk now than ever.

www.detroitnews.com

Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald claims that her involuntary manslaughter case against the parents of the teen who went on a deadly shooting rampage at Oxford High School in November 2021 is stronger than ever.

McDonald's argument was filed Friday in response to the sixth request for a lower bond filed by defense attorneys on behalf of James and Jennifer Crumbley in a bid to get released from jail while waiting to stand trial on the four counts of involuntary manslaughter tied to the shooting deaths of the four students at Oxford High. The bond is currently $500,000 for each defendant, an amount that their attorneys described as "excessive and unwarranted."

"The case against the Defendants is stronger now (than) it was at the time of any prior bond review," McDonald wrote in a filing in response to the request for a bond review...

BNM
The article also says:

The filing came as the Michigan Supreme Court in November sent the involuntary manslaughter case back to the Michigan Court of Appeals to determine if there was sufficient evidence for them to stand trial.
...
The Court of Appeals was ordered to hear the Crumbleys' appeal on having to stand trial after a three-judge panel in September rejected an appeal that sought a stay or delay their case and called for evidence such as their son's journals and text message be considered inadmissible.

“This is a big deal because, in theory, the Court of Appeals could dismiss the entire case if they feel there is not enough evidence that the parents’ conduct caused the deaths of the Oxford students,” Birmingham defense lawyer Wade Fink told The Detroit News.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Prosecutors: Crumbleys' lying friend shouldn't house couple if freed on bail

A person who said James and Jennifer Crumbley could live with him if freed on bail is not responsible enough to trust, Oakland County prosecutors said.

www.detroitnews.com

Pontiac — Oakland County prosecutors on Tuesday attacked the credibility of proposed living arrangements for James and Jennifer Crumbley if they were to be released on bond, arguing that the person designated to house them had legal issues and is not responsible enough.

In a Tuesday court filing, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Marc Keast said James Crumbley's attorney, Mariell Lehman, sent the court an email Sunday about a person who said the Crumbleys could live with him if they were released on bond.

The Crumbleys are in custody on four counts each of involuntary manslaughter connected to their son's killing of four students and wounding of six students and a teacher in the mass shooting at Oxford High School in November 2021. Their case is in the Michigan Court of Appeals awaiting a hearing to determine if there is enough evidence for them to stand trial...

 

[WingsOverTX]

Prosecutors: Crumbleys' lying friend shouldn't house couple if freed on bail

A person who said James and Jennifer Crumbley could live with him if freed on bail is not responsible enough to trust, Oakland County prosecutors said.

www.detroitnews.com

Pontiac — Oakland County prosecutors on Tuesday attacked the credibility of proposed living arrangements for James and Jennifer Crumbley if they were to be released on bond, arguing that the person designated to house them had legal issues and is not responsible enough.

In a Tuesday court filing, Assistant Prosecuting Attorney Marc Keast said James Crumbley's attorney, Mariell Lehman, sent the court an email Sunday about a person who said the Crumbleys could live with him if they were released on bond.

The Crumbleys are in custody on four counts each of involuntary manslaughter connected to their son's killing of four students and wounding of six students and a teacher in the mass shooting at Oxford High School in November 2021. Their case is in the Michigan Court of Appeals awaiting a hearing to determine if there is enough evidence for them to stand trial...

If I hadn't read that litany of very, very excellent reasons why "B.J." is unlikely to be a trustworthy custodian of a mass murderer's potentially legally culpable parents, I literally would not have believed it.

The Crumbleys need better counsel if they expect a decent defense. Any attorney who would request release to such a legally & otherwise troubled person is laughable, negligent & basically unfit to hold a law license in my view.

With this bulldog prosecutor having kept them incarcerated for almost a year, they would be wise to take a plea. Maybe the appeals court will surprise me, but I doubt it!

My rather harsh opinion only

 

[MrsWatson]

MOO

Pure speculation

I think the Crumbley's went with BJ as a custodian because he was the only person they knew who would offer them a place to stay. I don't think they were necessarily nice people and I don't think they had a wide circle of friends.

IIRC, Jennifer at least has some family much closer than Sanilac County, which is in the Thumb area, not really near Oakland County and very different demographically.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

MOO

Pure speculation

I think the Crumbley's went with BJ as a custodian because he was the only person they knew who would offer them a place to stay. I don't think they were necessarily nice people and I don't think they had a wide circle of friends.

IIRC, Jennifer at least has some family much closer than Sanilac County, which is in the Thumb area, not really near Oakland County and very different demographically.

Sanilac County borders St. Clair County where the Blue Water Bridge is located (Port Huron to Sarnia, Ontario). When they tried to abscond in December 2021, the Crumbleys were hiding out in a warehouse that was very close to the Detroit River. I've always believed that they wanted to cross the river into Canada. If they were allowed to stay in Sanilac County with this "B.J" character, they would once again have an opportunity to cross the bridge into Canada. JMO