MI MI - Alexandra Brueger, 31, fatally shot while jogging, Rose Twp, 30 July 2016 #1

[ThinkThinkThink]

Is this a case of jealousy?

Whose?

Why?

Can we being forth ideas on this?

 

[liltexans]

Is this a case of jealousy?

Whose?

Why?

Can we being forth ideas on this?

The motive could certainly be jealousy. Go ahead and theorize. I would love to hear some new theories.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I just can’t seem to figure out how her father could’ve possibly:

A) had the strength and agility to do something like this. Whoever did this had to be quick. He’s elderly and chances are, he doesn’t move very quick.

B) had a secret vehicle that was quickly returned to a top secret location and never seen again. Of course, that is basing my thoughts on a car was seen and chances are it wasn’t his vehicle since he hasn’t been arrested. So where did this light colored car come from that was seen at the scene? And where did it go? Perhaps someone (not her father) rented a car? Or borrowed a family member/friends car?

C) I keep coming up with ZERO motive. Clearly, it wasn’t a financial motive because there’s a go fund me. Ally’s parents don’t seem to have anything to gain from her death. Except heartache (even if it is expressed in different ways-everyone grieves differently)

SO, who stood to “gain”from murdering Ally? My best guesses are someone who wanted control. Or was rejected. Or was jealous. Or it could even be someone who thought she had a life insurance policy and that they were the beneficiary. Or someone scorned.

Or still...it could be a Random lunatic instead of a lunatic she was familiar with.

Taking a guess though and it’s only a guess, this was a killing based on rejection/jealousy/loss of control.

All JMO.

 

[Combatmedic2121]

If Nickki knew you were on dating sites; Then that's because Ally told her that.

But you forget that sometimes a deranged hook up can lead to your fiances death as well without you knowing since the person could have been deranged without your knowledge.

So please state any possibles or move on from only her dad is the only one with motive theory that you like to display. Jmo.

Because you show everyones email that suspect Franz.

But no replies if you was seeing someone else during or immediately after the killing. Jmo.

So clear this up so we can move on.

I hardly feel like this even needs to be said...
But No, there was no other “love interest” or “deranged hook up” in my life when Ally was killed.
Shortly after Ally moved out I had joined a dating site and then when we started talking again she found out about it and got upset and I felt terrible about it.


I showed screenshots showing other guys Ally has dated in the past confirming everything I’ve been saying about Ally and Franz’s toxic relationship...
This is something that Nikki has repeatedly tried to deny and hide! This is important!


Just like Nikki denying that Franz had ever told her that she should “just get over it.” Referring to their daughter being murdered.
Something I proved to be a lie by showing a screen shot of Nikki personally telling me this in a text message.


In both these cases there are DOUBLE red flags here!


It isn’t JUST that Franz had a toxic relationship with Ally...
It isn’t JUST that Franz told Nikki to “just get over” their daughters murder...
(First Red flag)


It’s also that BOTH of these things are completely denied by Nikki.
(Second Red flag for both)


And that’s just those two things, but there are red flag all over the place when it comes to her parents. That’s the problem I have.
I’ve looked into many other theories and other suspects... I’d find maybe red flag here... a red flag there... but nothing of any real significance.
It wasn’t until I started looking into Franz that I kept noticing red flags popping up. But then, after I told Nikki I suspected Franz, and I had watched her reactions, behaviors, and lies that followed... Nikki was throwing up red flags faster then I could keep count!
That’s is why I’m focused on them!

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I hardly feel like this even needs to be said...
But No, there was no other “love interest” or “deranged hook up” in my life when Ally was killed.
Shortly after Ally moved out I had joined a dating site and then when we started talking again she found out about it and got upset and I felt terrible about it.


I showed screenshots showing other guys Ally has dated in the past confirming everything I’ve been saying about Ally and Franz’s toxic relationship...
This is something that Nikki has repeatedly tried to deny and hide! This is important!


Just like Nikki denying that Franz had ever told her that she should “just get over it.” Referring to their daughter being murdered.
Something I proved to be a lie by showing a screen shot of Nikki personally telling me this in a text message.


In both these cases there are DOUBLE red flags here!


It isn’t JUST that Franz had a toxic relationship with Ally...
It isn’t JUST that Franz told Nikki to “just get over” their daughters murder...
(First Red flag)


It’s also that BOTH of these things are completely denied by Nikki.
(Second Red flag for both)


And that’s just those two things, but there are red flag all over the place when it comes to her parents. That’s the problem I have.
I’ve looked into many other theories and other suspects... I’d find maybe red flag here... a red flag there... but nothing of any real significance.
It wasn’t until I started looking into Franz that I kept noticing red flags popping up. But then, after I told Nikki I suspected Franz, and I had watched her reactions, behaviors, and lies that followed... Nikki was throwing up red flags faster then I could keep count!
That’s is why I’m focused on them!

If you don’t mind me asking, how well do know Brynn Styles, who was interviewed by the media? I’m just curious. My mind works better by knowing all the facts.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

The motive could certainly be jealousy. Go ahead and theorize. I would love to hear some new theories.

Besides random killing, I see do this as most likely a jealousy case...I have many and sundry thoughts -- not that they are right, but I have them. Excuse me, where is Dexter Morgan, to have my back??? Dexter??? Hello????

(lol, the case is serious...but it is healthy to also be able to laugh...I think Alexandra would think so)...


Jealousy... anyone?? Any ideas?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned can also apply to a jilted male lover. Jealousy? Whose? Alexandra Brueger was shot to death like an animal.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

I hardly feel like this even needs to be said...
But No, there was no other “love interest” or “deranged hook up” in my life when Ally was killed.
Shortly after Ally moved out I had joined a dating site and then when we started talking again she found out about it and got upset and I felt terrible about it.


I showed screenshots showing other guys Ally has dated in the past confirming everything I’ve been saying about Ally and Franz’s toxic relationship...
This is something that Nikki has repeatedly tried to deny and hide! This is important!


Just like Nikki denying that Franz had ever told her that she should “just get over it.” Referring to their daughter being murdered.
Something I proved to be a lie by showing a screen shot of Nikki personally telling me this in a text message.


In both these cases there are DOUBLE red flags here!


It isn’t JUST that Franz had a toxic relationship with Ally...
It isn’t JUST that Franz told Nikki to “just get over” their daughters murder...
(First Red flag)


It’s also that BOTH of these things are completely denied by Nikki.
(Second Red flag for both)


And that’s just those two things, but there are red flag all over the place when it comes to her parents. That’s the problem I have.
I’ve looked into many other theories and other suspects... I’d find maybe red flag here... a red flag there... but nothing of any real significance.
It wasn’t until I started looking into Franz that I kept noticing red flags popping up. But then, after I told Nikki I suspected Franz, and I had watched her reactions, behaviors, and lies that followed... Nikki was throwing up red flags faster then I could keep count!
That’s is why I’m focused on them!

1) What *specifically* did Ally say about her father that gnaws at you?
2) How would you rate Ally's self esteem?
3) What specifically was special (to you) about Ally?
4) Have you ever said anything to Ally you wish you had not?
5) What were you most proud of Ally for?
6) How do you wish you were more like Ally?

Please answer ASAP.

Thank you.

 

[Memo30]

Are there examples of Alexandra's poetry online? I found one pictured (called "Pacifier," written in high school) but it was impossible to decipher. She was said to be seeking a doctorate in "poetry" -- this is a bit of a misnomer as an academic PhD. is not in poetry in general but in specialized areas of it. What specifically was her interest? She seemed fascinating. I'm interested in this aspect. The key to solving her murder lies in her own character.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

Hell has no fury like a woman scorned can also apply to a jilted male lover. Jealousy? Whose? Alexandra Brueger was shot to death like an animal.

This has occurred to me... but I am not sure of whose rage.

This is a RAGE attack, IMO.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Are there examples of Alexandra's poetry online? I found one pictured (called "Pacifier," written in high school) but it was impossible to decipher. She was said to be seeking a doctorate in "poetry" -- this is a bit of a misnomer as an academic PhD. is not in poetry in general but in specialized areas of it. What specifically was her interest? She seemed fascinating. I'm interested in this aspect. The key to solving her murder lies in her own character.

Ally was working on a Master's degree in Creative Writing, not a PhD. From her obituary:

...She was working on her master degree in creative writing which she would have achieved in April 2017 because writing was her passion, nursing was her profession...

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/th...ra-nicolette-brueger&pid=180973457&fhid=17376

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

This has occurred to me... but I am not sure of whose rage.

This is a RAGE attack, IMO.

A scorned woman (one who has been betrayed) is more furious than anything that hell can devise.

What's the origin of the phrase 'Hell has no fury like a woman scorned'?

'Hell has no fury like a woman scorned' (or sometimes 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned') is usually attributed to the English playwright and poet William Congreve. He wrote these lines in his play The Mourning Bride, 1697:

Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd...

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/hell-has-no-fury-like-a-woman-scorned.html

Alexandra wasn't enraged, furious, or scorned: She ended up dead.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

I just can’t seem to figure out how her father could’ve possibly:

A) had the strength and agility to do something like this. Whoever did this had to be quick. He’s elderly and chances are, he doesn’t move very quick.

B) had a secret vehicle that was quickly returned to a top secret location and never seen again. Of course, that is basing my thoughts on a car was seen and chances are it wasn’t his vehicle since he hasn’t been arrested. So where did this light colored car come from that was seen at the scene? And where did it go? Perhaps someone (not her father) rented a car? Or borrowed a family member/friends car?

C) I keep coming up with ZERO motive. Clearly, it wasn’t a financial motive because there’s a go fund me. Ally’s parents don’t seem to have anything to gain from her death. Except heartache (even if it is expressed in different ways-everyone grieves differently)

SO, who stood to “gain”from murdering Ally? My best guesses are someone who wanted control. Or was rejected. Or was jealous. Or it could even be someone who thought she had a life insurance policy and that they were the beneficiary. Or someone scorned.

Or still...it could be a Random lunatic instead of a lunatic she was familiar with.

Taking a guess though and it’s only a guess, this was a killing based on rejection/jealousy/loss of control.

All JMO.

A) I think he could have the ability to have shot her, with his background especially.
B) I agree -- this is weird...a big mystery. Was the vehicle reported to have sped off really involved in the crime at all?
C) Motive for whomever (other than random), IMO: jealousy.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

A scorned woman (one who has been betrayed) is more furious than anything that hell can devise.

What's the origin of the phrase 'Hell has no fury like a woman scorned'?

'Hell has no fury like a woman scorned' (or sometimes 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned') is usually attributed to the English playwright and poet William Congreve. He wrote these lines in his play The Mourning Bride, 1697:

Heav'n has no Rage, like Love to Hatred turn'd,
Nor Hell a Fury, like a Woman scorn'd...

https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/hell-has-no-fury-like-a-woman-scorned.html

Alexandra wasn't enraged, furious, or scorned: She ended up dead.

I in NO WAY mean Ally was scorned!!!!...I mean I am not sure whose rage was inflicted on Ally.

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

Ally was working on a Master's degree in Creative Writing, not a PhD. From her obituary:

...She was working on her master degree in creative writing which she would have achieved in April 2017 because writing was her passion, nursing was her profession...

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/th...ra-nicolette-brueger&pid=180973457&fhid=17376

I am a professional writer... writers tend to express in their writing what they will not in their lives.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I in NO WAY mean Ally was scorned!!!!...I mean I am not sure whose rage was inflicted on Ally.

I know you didn't mean Ally. Perhaps I should have included a with my post. Someone was enraged about something and killed Ally in cold blood.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

I hardly feel like this even needs to be said...
But No, there was no other “love interest” or “deranged hook up” in my life when Ally was killed.
Shortly after Ally moved out I had joined a dating site and then when we started talking again she found out about it and got upset and I felt terrible about it.


I showed screenshots showing other guys Ally has dated in the past confirming everything I’ve been saying about Ally and Franz’s toxic relationship...
This is something that Nikki has repeatedly tried to deny and hide! This is important!


Just like Nikki denying that Franz had ever told her that she should “just get over it.” Referring to their daughter being murdered.
Something I proved to be a lie by showing a screen shot of Nikki personally telling me this in a text message.


In both these cases there are DOUBLE red flags here!


It isn’t JUST that Franz had a toxic relationship with Ally...
It isn’t JUST that Franz told Nikki to “just get over” their daughters murder...
(First Red flag)


It’s also that BOTH of these things are completely denied by Nikki.
(Second Red flag for both)


And that’s just those two things, but there are red flag all over the place when it comes to her parents. That’s the problem I have.
I’ve looked into many other theories and other suspects... I’d find maybe red flag here... a red flag there... but nothing of any real significance.
It wasn’t until I started looking into Franz that I kept noticing red flags popping up. But then, after I told Nikki I suspected Franz, and I had watched her reactions, behaviors, and lies that followed... Nikki was throwing up red flags faster then I could keep count!
That’s is why I’m focused on them!

RBBM for focus.

When did Nikki deny Franz had said those words, and to whom?

And even if he did say that to Nikki, sometimes we all say things we don’t mean and regret later. Who knows, maybe he apologized to her later.

In the end, for me personally, the comment doesn’t qualify as a “red flag.”

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

I know you didn't mean Ally. Perhaps I should have included a with my post. Someone was enraged about something and killed Ally in cold blood.

Thank you -- I appreciate this.

Again I say... if this was not random, there is jealousy and rage in this killing... Ally was vibrant, in aspects of her life... but she was also muted, and she hid out, in other ways. I feel this, deeply. I think she saw, felt and absorbed more than most.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

RBBM for focus.

When did Nikki deny Franz had said those words, and to whom?

And even if he did say that to Nikki, sometimes we all say things we don’t mean and regret later. Who knows, maybe he apologized to her later.

In the end, for me personally, the comment doesn’t qualify as a “red flag.”

I still would like to hear what Ms. Hogan finds suspicious about Franz, though.

Same here. We are reading a lot alleged musings from people who are not posting here personally. I would greatly appreciate the quoted individuals corroborating or refuting this information. :moo:

 

[Spellbound]

Can anyone tell me when Ally moved back in with her parents?