MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #1

[monkeypants]

We know she left work and her car was home. We don't know what time the car got there but unless she paid for that spot it had to be early on a Friday to get it. Without cc or phone info or witnesses we are stuck.

None of this feels random to me. She's targeted. Why?

 

[missgulfsouth]

Ok then they have a lot of familiarity with her and that apt. Her mom says that's her usual parking spot....

So we are definitely on track with not random

Not random ... now we're getting somewhere!

Please tell me there's no half wrapped pillow or earbuds in this story, cause I can't take any more of that!

 

[monkeypants]

Not random ... now we're getting somewhere!

Please tell me there's no half wrapped pillow or earbuds in this story, cause I can't take anymore of that!

Oh man I haven't looked back since that "insider " jumped in there...sigh..I'm going to forget about it and run far

 

[monkeypants]

Does that area have traffic cams? Tolls? I feel like I'm constantly on camera where I live no matter which way I drive lol

 

[missgulfsouth]

She's targeted. Why?

Someone she knows. It's very interesting that drug agents are involved ...

 

[gam]

We have very limited info, we don't know when that car was placed there. She left work, no one went to her apt until sat to check on her and the car was there.

 

[Lmustang89]

Ok then they have a lot of familiarity with her and that apt. Her mom says that's her usual parking spot....

So we are definitely on track with not random

**Maybe a co-worker followed her home? I would think Metlife would give police any instant messages or email (our company has our own internal instant messaging)

 

[soanyway]

I think I've caught up on everything, but apologies if anything has already been stated.

1) Where was her last credit card activity? Sounded like she was in a rush to get home, change and pack a bag. But at the end of the work week, and knowing that she had to leave the friend's house in the morning to go to training; she may have stopped to gas up on the way home. Someone could've spotted her at the gas station alone and followed her home, abducting her in the parking lot. It doesn't appear that she made it inside her apartment. But if in a rush, totally plausible that she left her purse and wallet in the car and only took her keys and phone. Could still be someone within the apartment complex, but sounds like they would've had to live very close to her to pull it off.

2) Listening to the presser, I get the impression that the mother thinks something could've happened leaving work and she may not have been in the vehicle alone. Sounds like there would need to be additional parties involved to pull this off. Not ruling out the friend who lost her infant son and an acquaintance(s) of the party charged being involved. One could've driven with her to drop the car, while another waited to take them both from the apartment complex.

3) I find it odd that LE hasn't stated if the vehicle was seen at the apartment complex Friday night or Saturday throughout the day. Clearly there must be someone there who remembers parking next to it. When was it first seen there? This is really appearing to be targeted by someone who knew her. Just not convinced 100% that it happened at the apartment complex. Her vehicle could've been brought back in the middle of the night and knowing her, knew where to park the vehicle. But then it could still be random if she had her address and unit number on her license (still in the vehicle) or on a piece of mail.

I'm most irritated by the fact that there are NO security cameras in this complex. Don't get me wrong, offering a reward is good and I hope it prompts someone to come forward her knows something. But that's $50,000 can could possibly have PREVENTED this crime or at least led to a solid lead. JMO

 

[Lmustang89]

Does that area have traffic cams? Tolls? I feel like I'm constantly on camera where I live no matter which way I drive lol

No tolls in our area there, yes to Traffic Cams in the nearby area

 

[NoHeartAnthony]

But it's possible she never made it home at all. Whoever got her could have put her car at apt.

That's pretty risky. How do you know her family isn't looking out for her at the time you're dropping the car off? How do you know someone in the complex won't see you drop the car off? If you haven't scouted the complex, how do you know if there's not cameras? Best to just dump it in Detroit IMO.

 

[gam]

No tolls, but I don't know on traffic cams. I know we have them in this area of Mi, but no clue to where there at and don't pay attention.

She had options to get home 696 expressway seems best however at that time of day it's packed. So taking other streets is possible. I myself have 20 minute drive to work but between 5-6pm it is 40 minute drive, by cutting this way and that way. If I took what appears to be best and get on expressway it would take me 50-60 minutes. Friday's at this time of the year are extremely busy.

 

[thesaint]

Ok then they have a lot of familiarity with her and that apt. Her mom says that's her usual parking spot....

So we are definitely on track with not random

Yeah, the narrow and slightly out of her regular routine timeline suggests that DS had at least agreed to meet up with whomever is responsible for her being missing. Whether that meet up occurred at her apt complex--she gets home, parks in her spot, takes her keys, phone and maybe some cash and jumps in their vehicle; or DS made a quick detour to someone's place, whatever happened happens, and they return her vehicle to her apt complex--if she had a reserved spot, one wouldn't necessarily have to know that that was her spot to have parked there. Could well have been the only spot available by her building at the time they returned the car.

I tend to lean toward DS drove her vehicle home and into that spot herself and then jumped in with someone else. But until we have some confirmation of when her jeep was parked back at the apt complex, that's far from certain.

A completely "involuntary" abduction of DS at her apt complex, given the narrow timeline and the time of day, seems like a difficult thing to pull off absent someone seeing / noticing something.

I guess another possibility is that DS doesn't go straight home after work. DS goes somewhere else after work. And then someone either follows her back home, or is waiting for her at her apt complex at that later time. But that is below the first 2 in terms of likelihood, under what limited information we have. The lack of information about where her jeep was and at what times makes everything in play, to some extent.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound like... I don't know. It's just so annoying that as a woman this is every day life. It gets dark at freaking 5 pm now. So as a woman I have to have an escort to walk my dog after work? It's just ridiculous that we have come to that.


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I'm not a "young" woman any more, but I haven't driven at night for more than 10 years and don't/won't walk anywhere in the dark. Even though I live in a safe, upscale neighborhood in Oakland County (MI), I'm out of my comfort zone outdoors, alone, in the dark these days. There isn't anywhere I'd go alone at night (or early morning during the winter) any more

 

[PrivateEyeMI]

Holocene - have your thoughts on Danielle changed over the weekend? Given what you know (or are comfortable sharing), what do you pose the most likely scenario?

thanks. To clarify: my job puts me in position to tt law enforcement and I was told the trafficking angle is what Farmington Hills PD is focusing on. I do not want to mislead anyone or Holocene (if she is truly designated attorney in fact for family) that I have some clues or something not in press. My offer was for labor resources to help search but from what I've read hear in my one day tenure I don't think I could offer anything that hasn't been done. I became aware of Danielle missing from a poster near my workplace which is near her apartment, and mods have all those credentials plus by investigative background to verify. During my time as grade student at Michigan State a univeristy I worked for the director of the human trafficking task force and police officer Jane White and Audrey Martini who was a 20 year veteran of sex crimes investigation with Detroit PD and both I came to admire for their practices experience and street smarts: something I've tried to do in my own career and poured over cases and assisted with doing in service training for Michigan law enforcement. A random disappearance on Friday night fits profile in that hope is a targeted individual will not be reported missing until beginning of next work week. Her dinner plans might have accelerated trail if this was case. I've sent my bona fides to mod. I will say someone posted about a similar disappearance in FL and when I read the wiki stub it was very similar hypothetically to this scenario in that vic disappeared off grid, and unsub was scene driving her vehicle BACK to vicinity of her home, almost as if to delay initiation of an investigation. I've posted links showing MI is considered second most active state in Union for sex trafficking which I imagine is prob based off UCR data or nicj info, but anecdotally i can tell you I believe it's real and snopes.....well Google and dig and you will see there WAS a foiled abduction at Great Lakes Crossing, and I'm told (again anecdotally, not backed by hard data) by LEO officers I trust in my profession that the malls in MI are areas for young females to be in "condition yellow" and extra careful. Maybe articles want to downplay risk because of effect of merchants and anchor stores I have no idea. Investigators are often part hard data and part intuition IMO. - fin -

 

[missgulfsouth]

We have very limited info, we don't know when that car was placed there. She left work, no one went to her apt until sat to check on her and the car was there.

It's a very big window of time. I'm thinking she either never made it home after work, or she did, but left again to meet someone ... and then things happened.

 

[Hoosier952]

We have very limited info, we don't know when that car was placed there. She left work, no one went to her apt until sat to check on her and the car was there.

If she has a designated spot and the parking is limited, wouldn't it be safe to assume at least one car parked next to her vehicle at some point over the weekend? Possibly even more than one car?

Does a designated spot mean 1 specific spot or just one specific part of the lot? Is it enforced? Does she share a designated parking neighbor who might be more likely to remember if her car was or wasn't there when they parked or left on Friday or Saturday?

 

[NoHeartAnthony]

I have tomorrow off, I'm going to see what the activity is around that complex at that time of day. Friday caveats apply, routines change a little, but hopefully it gives a picture of the available parking spots at that time.

 

[thesaint]

That's pretty risky. How do you know her family isn't looking out for her at the time you're dropping the car off? How do you know someone in the complex won't see you drop the car off? If you haven't scouted the complex, how do you know if there's not cameras? Best to just dump it in Detroit IMO.

But if you leave it back at her apt, parked in her usual spot, there's a chance that no one sounds the alarm until Monday (or later)..DS missing her dinner plans didn't even sound the alarm, until Saturday; when DS being non-responsive to her missed dinner friend + missing work Saturday caused the friend to drive over, later in the day, and check on DS.

If she had not missed work, not sure how much of an alarm would've been raised if she'd only missed a dinner and the friend finds her car parked at her apt. Could be DS changed her plans and is doing other things, her cell phone's not charged etc.

I agree it's most likely that DS is the one who parked her vechile there. But I could also see someone familiar with DS's living situation returning it there. Perhaps under cover of night, lights off, ease into her spot and then quietly slip away.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Does that area have traffic cams? Tolls? I feel like I'm constantly on camera where I live no matter which way I drive lol

No toll roads, but plenty of traffic cams. Someone posted the local MDOT (Michigan Department of Transportation) map for the local area earlier on this thread ( think it was thesaint).

 

[Grant44]

Great info, thank you. I'd love to see that investigated.

the fitbit type devices piggyback on the GPS of a synced device--typically one's cell phone, but you can sync them with computers or anything with blue-tooth and the ability to load the fitbit software as well (work computer, tablet, etc)

If she had a fitbit and she had it synced to her cell phone (and it had GPS enabled), and she still had both on/with her when she disappeared, one could either download the fitbit app, or maybe via their website, and login*** under DS's account and the app will have a "locate my fitbit" function. That will tell you the last time it was "seen" by the tracking software. that is, where DS's fitbit was located the last time DS's fitbit--if she had it blue-tooth synced up to her cell-phone--was in communication with the synced device.

considering she had a "burner" phone, she might've been syncing it via her work laptop/computer or a home computer or tablet. but i have no idea what capabilities her phone had, other than it's being termed a "burner".

*** if you either know or could guess/hack her login and password, likely her primary email address for username. LE might also be able to get FitBit to provide that info, either with or without a warrant. Heck, fitbit could likely provide a log of all synced locations for her fitbit over whatever time period LE was interested in.