MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #10

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I'd think if she was in his house there would be some dna of hers.
I'm beginning to think she was not in tbere.
 
I'd think if she was in his house there would be some dna of hers.
I'm beginning to think she was not in tbere.

It's possible that some test results are already completed, but LE is withholding any information until they have everything necessary to take the case to the Oakland County Prosecutor. There were at least two searches of the house in Berkley, so there must be some indication that DS was in the house at some time. :moo:
 
Read what I wrote please.
I said I THINK if she was in that house there would be dna.
Since after all time me personally I don't think she was there.
 
It's possible that some test results are already completed, but LE is withholding any information until they have everything necessary to take the case to the Oakland County Prosecutor. There were at least two searches of the house in Berkley, so there must be some indication that DS was in the house at some time. :moo:

Oh don't. You think if her dna was found he would have been arrested?
 
Question.

Is there any evidence more important tHan dna?
 
Question.

Is there any evidence more important tHan dna?
The body, imo.

Depending on what type of DNA they are coming up with. Is it hair? Is it skin? Is it blood? How much?

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The body, imo.

Depending on what type of DNA they are coming up with. Is it hair? Is it skin? Is it blood? How much?

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Yep the body.
I'm just not thinking she was in that house.
Jmvopo
 
My only concern is that an overwhelming amount of evidence doesn't necessarily mean any of that evidence has valuable information. They took a mattress, which would be a lot of real estate to test. Likely a mattress would have so much DNA from skin, blood, bodily fluids, and hair, so everything single spot, stain, and hair would need to be tested. If they took electronics, that would also be a lot of data to sort through. 3 vehicles again, so much to test, clothing, shoes, fingerprints, etc. It's a lot of evidence that could potentially prove everything or prove nothing at all depending on what they find.

My biggest concern is the fact we already know they were acquaintances. Finding her hair, small amount of blood, bodily fluids, etc. would be easy for a defense attorney to write off. I would say it's going to be a tough case without a body unless there is obvious evidence that a crime took place. I certainly hope they find that evidence.
 
I don't think she was voluntarily missing when she was reported missing and I think SG is responsible. Those are the only two things I feel in my gut. What my gut can't decide on is whether DS left or met with the SG voluntarily to begin with and whether they were acquaintances or even friendly or if she was terrified of him.

Respectfully SBM.

At this point, I just can't think of any scenario in which the SG is not involved. Further, while he might have had help in concealing his crime, I believe very strongly that he is the ultimate reason for Danielle's disappearance. I felt the same exact way about Robert Fabian in the Zuzu Verk case within a few days of her disappearance, and I am very pleased to see that he has finally been arrested, though I also feel very sad for her family for her remains have likely been found.

I, too, wonder how Danielle ended up in the company of the SG (if that is actually the case as this has not been confirmed) that Friday. All LE has said is that he and Danielle were acquaintances; to what degree, as you pointed out, they have not said, and it's something I keep going back and forth on.

If they were well-acquainted -say, they had exchanged each other's numbers for whatever reason-, and had mutually agreed to meet as Danielle left the office, why on earth would the SG agree to show up in the parking lot of her work, yet not drive away in his own vehicle? Sure, anything is possible (e.g., he could have taken a bus, Uber, gotten a ride from a friend, etc. ... none of which is likely, IMO), but if they were regular, ordinary friends, wouldn't it make more sense for them to have met at her apartment or his house?

To me, it makes more sense that the SG would have forced his way into Danielle's Jeep if he was indeed already inside the vehicle as it left MetLife (to the best of my knowledge, LE has not confirmed whether there was someone other than Danielle in the Jeep when she left work; what has been reported is "The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said authorities found Stislicki's black 2015 Jeep Renegade parked in front of her apartment on Dec. 3 but do not believe she drove it there"* -BBM-). He could have been stalking her and wanted to take things one step further (in his mind anyway), in which case he might have chosen the parking lot of her work to confront her over her apartment because he knew she didn't always come home at the same time whereas her work schedule was a little more consistent. Another possibility is that the SG and Danielle were in a relationship that went beyond a simple friendship -I have seen no evidence to support this assumption, and even if this was the case, I don't know either one of them personally and therefore will not judge; more importantly, regardless of what was going on in her life, one thing is for certain: Danielle did not deserve to be disappeared-, things went sour and he confronted her in the MetLife parking lot. In either scenario, I think the SG would have been able to get Danielle to comply with a gun.

Yet another possibility is that Danielle drove to the Berkley house willingly - for whatever reason (though not confirmed, I do believe that she was there due to the number and types of items taken from the property). There are a couple of things that support this scenario in my mind, one being that it appears LE had the SG on their radar within days -if not hours- of Danielle going missing, and two, perhaps her friend wasn't immediately alarmed because Danielle had told her she was going over there to see the SG before coming over to her house.

Now if only there were clues as to where Danielle could be found ... right now, I don't even know where to begin :(.

*The quote above is found here: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/0...-home-in-hunt-for-missing-michigan-woman.html
 
Based on the timeline in the article, the investigators would've traveled to Detroit about a week after SP was abducted (a couple of weeks before she was released on Thanksgiving Day). DS was then abducted the following week. If the trafficking theory is discounted, it still leaves open the possibility of a copycat crime for ransom. We don't know if one was paid with SP, but the week prior to her release, a woman was abducted and killed in Washington after a ransom was paid (Sandra Harris). I don't give any of these perps credit for being the brightest crayon in the box. Though no ransom has ever been discussed with DS, is it a possibility? Could the SG have just been a middle man?


I was looking at some news articles and ran across one on Sherri Papini. This seems to be recent. If I am not allowed to post this than by all means please delete. But the timing between Danielle and SP are within two or three days of each other and the article says that a lead in SP's case sent two investigaters to Detroit Michigan to check on a Sex traficing lead. I believe it was before SP was released by her captors. This just seemed very co incidental that the two cases were so close in timing. This could be one reason why she may still be alive and held somewhere. I know it has been discussed before here that many think it is unlikely, but who knows.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27561...ors-flew-across-us-to-detroit-to-chase-leads/
 
"We've overwhelmed them with the amount of evidence that we've collected," Nebus said. "Part of the investigation right now is dependent on a lot of the lab results coming back in."

[FONT=Lato, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Nebus said Danielle Stislicki's blue Eddie Bauer jacket could provide a critical piece of evidence. It's what she was wearing when she was last seen. (via: clickondetroit.com)[/FONT]

[FONT=Lato, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]IMO it sounds like they may have the blue jacket If it were found in his car or home that's a great piece of evidence. They were looking for other items too (keys and phone) but yet they didn't refer to those as being key pieces of evidence.

If they have an overwhelming amount of evidence to be checked out, sounds like they are on to something. I don't think it takes "hopeful optimism" to come to that conclusion either.


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I didn't get that he hinted about having the jacket. Even seeing it mentioned in mainstream media, that piece was edited down from interviews with Nebus and the Stislicki's. And their comments were woven in between the reporter's comments however they wanted to put the piece together. We don't have the entire context of that remark IMO. Wouldn't a person be pretty stupid to leave that in their car or home if they were responsible for the owner's disappearance? But it would be really great if they did find it.
 
I keep going back to this. There had to be some planning involved in the SG being at MetLife. Where was his vehicle? If it was there, did he follow her in it or was he in her vehicle? Why wouldn't they have gone back to her apartment (for any who believe they were involved, I personally do not). I just can't see a scenario where he randomly happened to be there and her disappearance hours later was not related. JMO

Respectfully SBM.

SBM
If they were well-acquainted -say, they had exchanged each other's numbers for whatever reason-, and had mutually agreed to meet as Danielle left the office, why on earth would the SG agree to show up in the parking lot of her work, yet not drive away in his own vehicle? Sure, anything is possible (e.g., he could have taken a bus, Uber, gotten a ride from a friend, etc. ... none of which is likely, IMO), but if they were regular, ordinary friends, wouldn't it make more sense for them to have met at her apartment or his house?
 
My assumption is that Danielle's coat was found either in one of SG's cars or possibly hidden in his home.
SG probably thought he covered his tracks real good. Not ever expecting LE impounding his cars and checking his house.
I think if he had other renters or other people living there that would of be known when SG's wife was home when police came to Do the search the second time. That is how LE found out she just got home from hospital and has cancer. I'm sure she was in a total shock. I'm curious if they are still together?!

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Someone was saying 6-8 weeks the other day.

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I'm the "someone" and said this based on the fact that I've lived in Michigan my entire life (I'm 67) and in Oakland County for 43 years. As a fervent follower of local media, including many missing persons and/or criminal cases, the average turnaround time for evidence sent to MSP labs in Lansing is approximately 6-8 weeks. Of course, some evidence analysis can take place quickly, but in complicated cases with an abundance of forensic evidence to be analyzed, processing can take much longer.

Presumably, the latter is possible with the (according to LE) overwhelming amount of evidence that has reportedly been collected in the case of missing Danielle Stislicki. At this point in the investigation, we don't know what evidence has been evaluated and/or what the results have been. If Danielle and the SG were "acquainted", it's entirely possible that she had visited his home previously. Her DNA being found there doesn't necessarily mean that a crime took place at the home in Berkley, nor does it mean that the SG was the perp. :moo:
 
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