MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #7

[SherlockJ]

Thought of something before I drifted off to sleep last night. We're told that Danielle asked to leave early, but there seems to be confusion about what time she left: 4:00, (text to friend at 4:15) 4:30? Possibly a thirty to sixty minute time gap. LE will eventually clear this up, I'm sure. Mrs. Stislicki said that Danielle left the parking lot at MetLife on Friday, December 2 at 5:00PM.

Ann Stislicki was allegedly not working that Friday. If she had been at MetLife, would she have known for sure when DS left? Would they have seen each other on the way out of the building and/or in the parking lot as they both departed for the day? I guess I was trying to figure out if there was some connection to Danielle going missing on a day when her mom wasn't at work. If Danielle's mom had been at work on December 2, would DS have gone missing? :waitasec:

Waiting for the person who will suspect her mother was involved. :crazy::crazy:

 

[monkeypants]

Early departure, we all do it, but we haven't vanished. I guess it's just natural to look at even the smallest hints, hoping something will click and a perpetrator is caught. Did she usually leave early? Did she usually stop at home before heading to the friends? Did she usually bring a change of clothing with her? Was it uncommon for her not to show up at that friend's house? Yes, we grab at anything we can .

Today I listened to a video produced by one of her friends. She told a story about DS. A bunch of girls scheduled to meet in Detroit for dinner, DS arrives late, She explained her dress ripped, and when she went to fix the situation she tripped over a box of confetti.

One person hears that story and laughs. Another infers the confetti is a sign that maybe she parties too much. A third suspects she may have been preempted, buying drugs in the hood A fourth is convinced it was the result of a secret romance.

But the beauty is that everyone is trying to grab onto anything with the common interest of getting her home. And one day someone writes something, and something clicks, and a crime somewhere is solved.

To be tolerant to the others theories, even though we each know our own is the truth, is necessary to make this thing work.

I don't think any of us could possibly know ours is the truth, but we all just want her to be found.

No theory is a bad theory when we have virtually no facts. But there is probable and improbable when sorting thru ideas imo.

 

[Enchantment]

Waiting for the person who will suspect her mother was involved. :crazy::crazy:

I do not get that from that post. Rather, that one small variable can change a course of events.

 

[SherlockJ]

Waiting for the person who will suspect her mother was involved. :crazy::crazy:

One would think she would have left at least 30 minutes early if she bothered to text a friend. She was stopping at home 1st and it seems reasonable to think that 10 or 15 minutes might not even be worthy of mentioning unless someone was waiting for you to pick them up,
I have the impression Mrs. S is thorough. I trust her the most when she asked people to think if they saw the car at about 5:00.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

I'm haunted by this theory. SG arrives at Metlife with no car, joins D.S.r, camera capture them leaving MetLife. He takes her across state boundaries, possibly implied by phone movement--EITHER of their phones. Once the police determine this, searches are called off. Widespread photos are encouraged. Mom's afraid she' been taken against her will (at this point no one knows if she went willingly because he is missing, too) and asks about her demeanor. "Did she look scared?" I think another clue is that her mother seemed more concerned about the demeanor of DS than whether she was alone in the car or not. Her car is returned back to then house and the wallet isn't touched because this person is motivated by passion, not money.
In terms of a search warrant. If SG was not at the home, would police wait until he was there to do seafrch toga other clues from his demise and for questioning? They knew when the wife came home he would be there so they possibly waited until then and it wasn't a coincidence the timing....

Speculation: Didn't AtomicAngel mention a man driving a vehicle with out of state plates approach her at IG? Could SG have been working with an out of state contact? Maybe LE has traced SG phoning an out of state cell, who was within the state. But 2 men trying to abduct DS. Why? Why would someone take a chance of abducting someone close to them (working in the same building) for a time?

 

[SherlockJ]

I think we should develop a series of symbols for certain questions and arguments for the sake of efficiency

-.- = We don't know for sure that the security guard lived at the house his wife owns
--- = It was probably human trafficking because human trafficking is a huge problem and more common than you think.
--. = There had to have been video footage of her at MetLife.
--.. = There was definitely no video footage of her anywhere.
..- = The security guard is not the type of person who would abduct someone.
..-- = There must be something more to the story of her leaving early because a) she didn't leave early, or b) shouldn't have had to ask because she worked there for a long time
.-.-. = The security guard would be wrong, but not that wrong, to have an affair -- and would it would definitely be wrong to kidnap someone.
----- = Her disappearance is definitely drug-related because she may have smoked pot at some point and lots of governmental agencies are involved.

I know I'm missing a few.

**** She wouldn't do that. I know her. No way. She was a good person
**** Look at their Facebook and you can just tell

And my favorite...

He DID NOT work for Met Life. Worked for a security company they used.

 

[AggieLou]

It is possible that someone pulled into Met Life in a van, snatched her and they remained in Met Life's parking lot until the next day. I lived in Detroit suburbs for 55 years. Cars are left in lots overnight. Saw them all the time. Friends hook up for a night out, designated driver, Friday night, yada, yada, yada....

But nobody says, "We aren't sure when the car pulled out". The family and LE didn't have that 1st press conference immediately. There were days to consider every possible scenario. Still, all are firm on when the car would have exited. The only plausible way for me to understand this is that something or someone was able to verify the car. And the likelihood of seeing if a 2nd passenger was in the car, pretty good.

Would you want the suspected POI to know you had him on video? Probably not. You would want to catch him in a lie.

Mother said she was seen driving her car at 5pm. How did something happen at MetLife then?

 

[SherlockJ]

Speculation: Didn't AtomicAngel mention a man driving a vehicle with out of state plates approach her at IG? Could SG have been working with an out of state contact? Maybe LE has traced SG phoning an out of state cell, who was within the state. But 2 men trying to abduct DS. Why? Why would someone take a chance of abducting someone close to them (working in the same building) for a time?

Rumor is he used to work for a bank. Until they recognized him holding up the very branch he worked at. Bad attempt at humor. Moderator, may we have our 1st encounter now?

 

[monster12]

One would think she would have left at least 30 minutes early if she bothered to text a friend. She was stopping at home 1st and it seems reasonable to think that 10 or 15 minutes might not even be worthy of mentioning unless someone was waiting for you to pick them up,
I have the impression Mrs. S is thorough. I trust her the most when she asked people to think if they saw the car at about 5:00.

In that area, on a Friday in traffic, every few minutes count in terms of getting where you want to be. I know a lot of people that randomly leave work early on random days whether it's 15 minutes or 50 minutes. Maybe she normally worked until 6 or later? I understand trying to find the fault in the timing of it all but unless a co-worker comes and tells us "She works until 5:30/6/7 every day", round and round we go.

 

[SherlockJ]

Mother said she was seen driving her car at 5pm. How did something happen at MetLife then?

Actually I thought the mother asked if anyone saw her driving her car. An early newspaper article said she was last seen in her car.

So what confuses some of us in how much time elapsed between when she walked out of the building to when the car pulled away. That is a very telling detail. If it left immediately, HT could hold more weight. If it stayed on the lot (with her in it) for a longer period of time, she may have had a guest... or a phone call.

 

[Eileen730]

Waiting for the person who will suspect her mother was involved. :crazy::crazy:[/QUOTE)

Lol no way .

 

[SherlockJ]

I do not get that from that post. Rather, that one small variable can change a course of events.

I didn't have that take either. My response, an illustration how we are all capable of hearing a detail, interpreting it differently.

 

[AtomicAngela]

Speculation: Didn't AtomicAngel mention a man driving a vehicle with out of state plates approach her at IG? Could SG have been working with an out of state contact? Maybe LE has traced SG phoning an out of state cell, who was within the state. But 2 men trying to abduct DS. Why? Why would someone take a chance of abducting someone close to them (working in the same building) for a time?

My encounter did take place with a man who had out-of-state plates on his car. My thoughts, not that anyone asked for them, is that if the car is involved, it was a rental. Easy to get rid of, potentially hard to track down with how many rental car lots there are in Metro Detroit, and cleaned before it goes back out.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Mother said she was seen driving her car at 5pm. How did something happen at MetLife then?

It could be that Danielle was forced into her car by someone waiting for her. Mrs. Stislicki asked at the press conference: Did anyone see the dirty car? Was Danielle driving? Was she alone? What was her demeanor? "Something happening at MetLife" could be an abduction, DS being taken against her will and forced to drive someone somewhere. :moo:

 

[missgulfsouth]

I was really hoping for news yesterday. People kept saying there was a SM shift over the weekend, that comments seemed to have turned somber.

I've been on Danielle's thread since day one, I do like seeing cases through to the end, at least until an arrest. This is the last case I will be following here on WS for a while, I followed so many in 2016 that I need a hiatus.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I was really hoping for news yesterday. People kept saying there was a SM shift over the weekend, that comments seemed to have turned somber.

I've been on Danielle's thread since day one, I do like seeing cases through to the end, at least until an arrest. This is the last case I will be following here on WS for a while, I followed so many in 2016 that I need a hiatus.

I hear you. I'm sticking to local cases - metro Detroit or MI (if it's something interesting with plenty of media coverage).

 

[missgulfsouth]

I think we should develop a series of symbols for certain questions and arguments for the sake of efficiency

-.- = We don't know for sure that the security guard lived at the house his wife owns
--- = It was probably human trafficking because human trafficking is a huge problem and more common than you think.
--. = There had to have been video footage of her at MetLife.
--.. = There was definitely no video footage of her anywhere.
..- = The security guard is not the type of person who would abduct someone.
..-- = There must be something more to the story of her leaving early because a) she didn't leave early, or b) shouldn't have had to ask because she worked there for a long time
.-.-. = The security guard would be wrong, but not that wrong, to have an affair -- and would it would definitely be wrong to kidnap someone.
----- = Her disappearance is definitely drug-related because she may have smoked pot at some point and lots of governmental agencies are involved.

I know I'm missing a few.

What?! Bahahaha!!!! Annnnd you lost me.

 

[AggieLou]

Actually I thought the mother asked if anyone saw her driving her car. An early newspaper article said she was last seen in her car.

So what confuses some of us in how much time elapsed between when she walked out of the building to when the car pulled away. That is a very telling detail. If it left immediately, HT could hold more weight. If it stayed on the lot (with her in it) for a longer period of time, she may have had a guest... or a phone call.

I think both those things were said at different times. I think it first was asked for sighting of her car and who was driving and how many in car and what was her demeanor. Then it was said by mother that she was seen driving her car at 5pm. I don't think it was ever mentioned exactly where sighting occurred. Still asking if anyone noticed her demeanor. I can't remember the last time I may have noticed a person's demeanor while driving in heavy traffic. Unless someone was honking and making gestures or wants to cut into your lane. Maybe others do. I wouldn't randomly pay close attention to looking at individual driving a vehicle unless they deliberately tried to get my attention. Maybe that's what they want to find out about though.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

My encounter did take place with a man who had out-of-state plates on his car. My thoughts, not that anyone asked for them, is that if the car is involved, it was a rental. Easy to get rid of, potentially hard to track down with how many rental car lots there are in Metro Detroit, and cleaned before it goes back out.

Agreed, I think a rental is possible, hard to trace.

 

[Deleted member 132804]

If SG wasn't working at MetLife on Dec. 2nd, "IF" he was spotted at MetLife, why was he there, and possibly without a car?