MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #7

[DakotaMayi]

Where are you, Dani?
I cannot and will not let myself believe she is dead.

This case has drawn me in strongly and I cannot let myself give up on her being alive.

 

[lilbean727]

Thank you for pulling this out of my brain.

I'd like to add that there has been minimal coverage of this case here in Illinois. Everyone I've mentioned DS to here had never even heard of her. So I have to say that although us WS junkies are well informed the rest of the world is not.

 

[crhedBngr]

Bolded for emphasis- Do we know that he didn't leave his post or that he wasn't allowed to? Could that have been the reason he isn't a SG there anymore? Also we know DS stayed late after work sometimes. If she were one of very few in the office, would people notice her chatting with an SG, whether in her office or at the SG's station? Is there a shared break room for the entire building or each business?

BBM

At my work place, part of a security guard's job was walking through different buildings and ensuring everything was "okay"--no suspicious activity, no unescorted visitors were wandering the halls, etc. These SG's would then scan their badges at different checkpoints throughout the buildings, verifying that they had indeed checked the building(s) and found no suspicious activity. I believe they would rotate their positions; one week, an SG might be sitting at the front desk of a building, checking employee's badges and issuing temporary badges to contractors and visitors. Next week, he/she might be securing building perimeters.

Please keep in mind that I worked in aerospace and defense, so entry and exit per building was tightly controlled. However, I've seen the same type of set-up in other buisnesses--you needed to check in with Security and obtain a visitor badge if you weren't an employee.

I don't know if DS's place of employment had the same type of set-up, but it's possible the SG wasn't restricted to one area only. He may have rotated though different tasks on a weekly basis, including ensuring the building(s) were secure.

Just my 2 cents.

:thinking:

 

[Lia_]

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I also recall reading that metlife had just moved to southfield office building in October. I still like the theory that maybe his stopping working in October at southfield office could of been due to DS Complaining about being harassed but could it be possible that when they moved into the new office complex in southfield, that he didn't come with? Maybe they had enough security guards at that location or it was just somehow decided that once they moved to the new office he was being transferred to a different location? It just seems interesting that he stopped working at the same month they moved to a new office, perhaps his no longer working at the same metlife as DS had to do with the move to the new office was the old office building also in Southfield? I'm pretty sure it was, which would rule out a situation where he requested to be moved to a different building due to the new location being too far away or something

but maybe since the security guards seem to be employed by the buildings themselves and not by metlife, that meant that none of the SG came along in the October move to the new metlife office. That would actually make sense from what we've learned here thus far. A few people have come and said that the security guards were not employed by metlife, but by the building. So, since we know that metlife moved to the new office in october, it would make sense that the same security guards wouldn't be coming along with and so the fact that he didn't work at metlife in October, it seems more likely that it's because of the move and not related to the fact that DS had come back to working around october (although I've also seen people say she came back in August but my point is I've always wondered if his no longer working at metlife was a big clue that maybe he got in trouble for being creepy or harassing her but it suddenly clicked that we keep saying he stopped working in October and we know that they moved to a new building in october...and we've had people tell us that the security works for the buildings and not metlife, in which case he wouldn't be moving with them in october)

 

[SherlockJ]

Are we approaching this with logic or are we defending a friend? I have no relationship with either--neither DS nor the SG so know I am not motivated by what I THINK, is becoming a problem here.

For instance, it seems like a lot of people defend DS claiming "she is a good person and would never get involved with him". As a person who stands firmly on a fair playing field I ask, Why can't a good person be involved with him? Do we know there was something defective about him? None of us know if he was separated. None of us know if he was going through a divorce. None of us know if he had an agreed upon open marriage. Maybe he made her happy, made her feel special? Maybe he was fun, exciting, bright? Or maybe he did the unthinkable. We don't know. Maybe they went out on a date that night. The point is, why do some of us point a finger at him instinctively without having many facts to go on? To those who know Danielle, know it is highly unlikely anyone here would criticize her. On the contrary in order be helpful we want to consider all possibilities. This isn't a Facebook popularity contest. Facts, facts, facts, the focus!

 

[crhedBngr]

I agree with Cricket. I've mentioned my daughter died in a hotel room in Lansing in 2011. Her case was never solved and said we could open at anytime. They say my daughter died of alcohol and heroine but I know deep down it was not her choice and I know darn well that man took advantage of my daughter. But because the two girls that knew what was happening never came forward so it's this man's word against my deceased daughter who didn't have a voice to fight back with. I know my daughter was not a heroine addicted girl, but I still spread the word on drugs and human trafficking as both are an epidemic in the state of Michigan. It's sad but true! I'll fight until the end fir justice for my daughter. All I have left are memories and what keeps me going is getting the word out on drugs and human trafficking. Dani
Reminds me of how my daughter was and that pulls me close to share her story and bring her home to her family. I would never want a mother or father to go through the heartache I live with everyday.

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A strong cyber {{{HUG}}} to you as well!

 

[AggieLou]

Okay, fairly new member. What is BBM. I have an idea but have previously only known it to be acronym for Blackberry Messenger and one other thing. Neither make sense in replies where I'm seeing it! Thanks.

 

[ZacksDad]

Okay, fairly new member. What is BBM. I have an idea but have previously only known it to be acronym for Blackberry Messenger and one other thing. Neither make sense in replies where I'm seeing it! Thanks.

Bolded By Me

 

[AggieLou]

I'd like to add that there has been minimal coverage of this case here in Illinois. Everyone I've mentioned DS to here had never even heard of her. So I have to say that although us WS junkies are well informed the rest of the world is not.

The only coverage I've seen one state to the south here in Southern Ohio was one national news mention. I found out via FB where I am sure it has gone pretty far and wide.

 

[gam]

Are we approaching this with logic or are we defending a friend? I have no relationship with either--neither DS nor the SG so know I am not motivated by what I THINK, is becoming a problem here.

For instance, it seems like a lot of people defend DS claiming "she is a good person and would never get involved with him". As a person who stands firmly on a fair playing field I ask, Why can't a good person be involved with him? Do we know there was something defective about him? None of us know if he was separated. None of us know if he was going through a divorce. None of us know if he had an agreed upon open marriage. Maybe he made her happy, made her feel special? Maybe he was fun, exciting, bright? Or maybe he did the unthinkable. We don't know. Maybe they went out on a date that night. The point is, why do some of us point a finger at him instinctively without having many facts to go on? To those who know Danielle, know it is highly unlikely anyone here would criticize her. On the contrary in order be helpful we want to consider all possibilities. This isn't a Facebook popularity contest. Facts, facts, facts, the focus!

Same reason some point at DS with these big drug theories. Problem has come in because some are set on what they think and if anyone tries to paint a different picture, things go from there. While defending a point, the ones set then accuse the one defending their point on being set.

There are few facts, facts, facts, so we have explored many possibilities.

You post a theory it's like you said, I or anyone else should pick it apart. By picking it apart it does not mean one has eliminated it completely. But for some reason some seem to think it does, and then we end up right back into these same discussions, lol.

 

[SherlockJ]

The only coverage I've seen one state to the south here in Southern Ohio was one national news mention. I found out via FB where I am sure it has gone pretty far and wide.

I would like to see more coverage in Ohio, and the other neighboring states. Crossing into Canada a bit riskier these days--perpetrator would have needed to prepare fake I.D. Possibly risky to try with an educated person who was possible kidnapped.

 

[soanyway]

You are correct and you did say "could", thank you for clarifying your post. But that is why I used the word "alluded". (your original post is below). This is just too far a stretch for me as there has been no evidence (social media or otherwise) confirming that there was anything more than a "knowing" of each other. Additionally, while I do not know DS personally, she does appear to be a free spirit who is comfortable with herself and would not be too hung up on what others think of her choices. Her dad shared a comical bit from her journal at one point that was showed some of her personality and it was hard not to see the pride for his daughter coming through his words. IMO, her parents love her dearly for the exuberant, outgoing woman she is and would be supportive or whatever decisions she made relationship wise. All MOO, of course.

Still single at 29 could be indicative of someone who has difficulties with dating relationships. Those types of people might be drawn to people who are not in a hurry to take things to the next step. Maybe the person lives in another state, or ineligible for some other reason. Possibly married.

I think the person said that not being in a committed relationship at age 28 COULD be indicative of overbearing parents (no one's good enough for daddy) and it COULD mean that person might not always want family to know about her personal life. Maybe her father's a racist and wouldn't approve of her for instance, dating a Native Indian or maybe a woman. Maybe he is a religious fanatic who does not think she should sleep with anyone she is not married to. I know someone who appears ver similar to the way DS is described by her family and HER parents would faint if they knew half the things SHE did. So would her friends. I don't know the parents of DS so I don't know if they're religious fanatics, meddle in her life too much... I can say neither positive or negative things about them. But I can say I genuinely feel terrible for what they are going through.
BTW, have you EVER heard someone say about someone they know, "She did THAT, I don't believe it". Or have you ever read about a rapist, a serial killer who people were shocked to hear was capable of their crimes. It happens. I appreciate your willingness to share your opinions even though I mine may differ.

 

[monkeypants]

But she played it down. Kind of mildly shrugged it off when should have been a big deal. It should have been bigger than what was her demeanor. I think.

You might be reading into that

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[SherlockJ]

Same reason some point at DS with these big drug theories. Problem has come in because some are set on what they think and if anyone tries to paint a different picture, things go from there. While defending a point, the ones set then accuse the one defending their point on being set.

There are few facts, facts, facts, so we have explored many possibilities.

You post a theory it's like you said, I or anyone else should pick it apart. By picking it apart it does not mean one has eliminated it completely. But for some reason some seem to think it does, and then we end up right back into these same discussions, lol.

I suppose your right. It's easy for people to tie their ego into their theory and refuse to entertain anything that points towards another direction. And it is probably understandable that people who know DS or FG on a personal level, more prone to this behavior. "My friend, never!" Myself, I've gone through the drug theory phase, as well as the kidnapping, human trafficking, affair gone awry and stalking phases. And even though I hold one theory to be what I think to be the truth, I would gladly entertain devil advocates. The bottom line is determining "why" to assist in finding her!

 

[verbalkint7]

I missed where this info came from of DS going to her friends every weekend. Can you or anyone else point me to where that came from, thanks in advance.

The friend stated it on SM, but that is not sourceable here, so you won't find it.

 

[monkeypants]

I think the person said that not being in a committed relationship at age 28 COULD be indicative of overbearing parents (no one's good enough for daddy) and it COULD mean that person might not always want family to know about her personal life. Maybe her father's a racist and wouldn't approve of her for instance, dating a Native Indian or maybe a woman. Maybe he is a religious fanatic who does not think she should sleep with anyone she is not married to. I know someone who appears ver similar to the way DS is described by her family and HER parents would faint if they knew half the things SHE did. So would her friends. I don't know the parents of DS so I don't know if they're religious fanatics, meddle in her life too much... I can say neither positive or negative things about them. But I can say I genuinely feel terrible for what they are going through.
BTW, have you EVER heard someone say about someone they know, "She did THAT, I don't believe it". Or have you ever read about a rapist, a serial killer who people were shocked to hear was capable of their crimes. It happens. I appreciate your willingness to share your opinions even though I mine may differ.

Geeze I don't think you can even remotely make these leaps

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[1smile]

Yes. But I'm not sure how that is relative here. (Regarding the content of what you just replied to)

It does pose additional theories. Some you may appreciate as it could create an alibi for SG.


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[SherlockJ]

You are correct and you did say "could", thank you for clarifying your post. But that is why I used the word "alluded". (your original post is below). This is just too far a stretch for me as there has been no evidence (social media or otherwise) confirming that there was anything more than a "knowing" of each other. Additionally, while I do not know DS personally, she does appear to be a free spirit who is comfortable with herself and would not be too hung up on what others think of her choices. Her dad shared a comical bit from her journal at one point that was showed some of her personality and it was hard not to see the pride for his daughter coming through his words. IMO, her parents love her dearly for the exuberant, outgoing woman she is and would be supportive or whatever decisions she made relationship wise. All MOO, of course.

You owe me more than THAT! I wrote "Could", "Might", "Maybe" and "Possibly" in just 4 small sentences.:loveyou:

Hopefully this shows a fair minded person trying to explore possibilities.

It is possible that parents can love and be proud of a free spirited woman who is independent and not overly concerned what people think about her and still be screwed up when it comes to relationships. Trust me, I was.

But my goal is that none of us rule out any possibilities. Maybe something will click with someone reading this if we throw out as many ideas as we can. I think that's the point of this. I don't do this just to get away from the family!:truce:

 

[soanyway]

Based on some SM posts this weekend, I was really hoping there was a break in the case that would be announced today. I've been thinking a lot about the evidence that led them to the SG's home (which appears to be within the first week following DS's disappearance). What (if anything specific) was uncovered in the 1st search that led to the additional follow-up searches? Would DNA have been found on the 1st visit? The SG's home has 4 bedrooms, but LE only confiscated 1 mattress for DNA testing on a follow-up search. Was there only 1 bed in the 4 bedroom residence? If not, were sheets taken from all beds on the first visit that led them back to a specific mattress? Does 1 bed mean that only the homeowner and spouse were residing there (ruling out the possibility of a tenant's involvement)? I understand that warrants may need to be written for specific evidence to be collected. But the fact that they didn't take the mattress on the 1st visit to the home is giving me a little hope in that nothing "major" stood out to the investigators. DISCLAIMER: I am an eternal optimist and while I am keeping an open mind, I'm clinging on mostly to the theories that bring DS home safely.

 

[gam]

Clearly, not ALL are aware.


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Most here are aware. Are you aware that the friend is considered a victim at this time according to websleuths? Are you aware that it's hard to discuss it without sleuthing friend? Are you aware sleuthing friend and posting SM is against TOS here?

Due to that I for one am not discussing that on here.