Just bumping this interesting post from someone who says they are Amy's sister. They might be, in not implying they aren't, but this is the internet.Hello everyone.
I'm Amy's sister. Yes there were camera's at the gas station, however during the initial investigation, the police never obtained copies of the footage. Yes, they were able to verify my father was at the gas station, and yes, they were able to verify they left the farm. The gas station is near the middle of town on the main street. it is a very small town, main street is about 4 blocks long, and there are mostly businesses along the main street with residential homes behind it. The area was not very developed at the time, and there were significant areas of farmland around, corn fields specifically.
Thank you for starting this thread and looking into my sister's disappearance.
No, my father, or any of my family, myself included (yes, I was 8 at the time), has been cleared of wrong-doing in this case. In my opinion, much of this case has been mishandled, and vital information, such as gas station footage, has been forever lost.
Recently, the Maple Grove police has renewed their efforts, and for that I applaude them. Unfortunately, it appears thier focus lies soley on my family and foul play. I am not aware if they looked into the sighting in MI. They tapped our phones and put us under surveillance - over twenty years after the occurance. Their equipment has yet to be removed. When they questioned my father, who has a severe allergy to latex and was later found to have significant heart diease requiring open heart surgery, they placed him in a warm room, using latex materials, and when he complained of feeling light-headed, short of breath, ignored it as a medical concern and took those very real physical symptoms as proof of his guilt. While I can understand their mistake in this matter, it makes me very upset that they would treat a victim's family member as such. Representatives interviewed by local newsstations have stated the investigation is on hold because we are not cooperating. Considering the major medical conditions, and the physical stressors caused by them, and their very recent methods of how they want us to cooperate, we are literaly unable to without significant injury to health.
I'm sure that I will upset a few people with this post, I do not mean to, but it is extremely frustrating to be put in such a position that we need to choose between the current health and well-being of my mother and father, or the police continuing their investigation into my sister's disappearance. It is a horrible choice and saddens me beyond words.
I want to thank you all again for keeping Amy in your thoughts. I hope you can help in any way possible. It tears at my heart to feel like there is nothing formally being done, but your time and energy is an amazing gift.
Thank you all
This link doesn't work anymore. Does anyone know what this unicorn thing is about?I didn't hear that. This article published today says LE has been excavating the yard today.
I don't know. I've never liked the seemingly total lack of...anything..on the part of her parents in seeking justice for Amy. I know people react differently to these tragedies, so I'll wait and see.
Also, wth is with the statement about the unicorn drawing? She gave it to LE hoping it could help them?
http://m.twincities.com/twincities/db_39829/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=4oV50IOD
I'm sorry to be such a thread hog tonight. But when I reread from this post, I realized what she's saying is that police interviewed the father in a room containing latex, knowing he's allergic to latex, so if police's definition of "cooperation" is "sitting in room with your allergen" then her parents are faced with an unreasonable decision.I'm not sure if this helps at all, but the poster who said she's Amy's sister (on page one of this thread) said this about the (step?)father having medical problems...
Recently, the Maple Grove police has renewed their efforts, and for that I applaude them. Unfortunately, it appears thier focus lies soley on my family and foul play. I am not aware if they looked into the sighting in MI. They tapped our phones and put us under surveillance - over twenty years after the occurance. Their equipment has yet to be removed. When they questioned my father, who has a severe allergy to latex and was later found to have significant heart diease requiring open heart surgery, they placed him in a warm room, using latex materials, and when he complained of feeling light-headed, short of breath, ignored it as a medical concern and took those very real physical symptoms as proof of his guilt. While I can understand their mistake in this matter, it makes me very upset that they would treat a victim's family member as such. Representatives interviewed by local newsstations have stated the investigation is on hold because we are not cooperating. Considering the major medical conditions, and the physical stressors caused by them, and their very recent methods of how they want us to cooperate, we are literaly unable to without significant injury to health.
Whisper, I am going to be straight with you. I think you are clearly a member of Amy's family, given that you obviously have insider knowledge of this case, you only ever post on Amy's thread, and you have a great deal of personal emotion in your posts about Amy.
You don't have to reveal your identity if that's not what you want, but there is a verification process for insiders on cases, which you can go through if you are interested in doing that. If you want info on how to do that, you can ask me and I will point you in the right direction.
We just want to see Amy found, that's all. And we would like to see anyone who has been responsible for her disappearance brought to justice. We want to help you and the rest of Amy's loved ones to achieve resolution in this case.
Have a look at some of the other threads in Websleuths. As flourish posted earlier, there are lots of great sleuthers on here who you could have at your disposal to help you. Check out the Anna Christian Waters subforum to see how members on here have put in a lot of hard work to help the family of a missing child. We could try and do the same for you and Amy's family, but you have to be willing to let us.
Please accept this post in the spirit it is intended - a genuine desire to help find Amy.
I'm sorry to be such a thread hog tonight. But when I reread from this post, I realized what she's saying is that police interviewed the father in a room containing latex, knowing he's allergic to latex, so if police's definition of "cooperation" is "sitting in room with your allergen" then her parents are faced with an unreasonable decision.
Is that an accurate take on it?
Google offers more information on the dad and his... health issues.
This post mentions the latex allergy. It was made by someone purporting to be Amy's sister.Hello everyone.
I'm Amy's sister. Yes there were camera's at the gas station, however during the initial investigation, the police never obtained copies of the footage. Yes, they were able to verify my father was at the gas station, and yes, they were able to verify they left the farm. The gas station is near the middle of town on the main street. it is a very small town, main street is about 4 blocks long, and there are mostly businesses along the main street with residential homes behind it. The area was not very developed at the time, and there were significant areas of farmland around, corn fields specifically.
Thank you for starting this thread and looking into my sister's disappearance.
No, my father, or any of my family, myself included (yes, I was 8 at the time), has been cleared of wrong-doing in this case. In my opinion, much of this case has been mishandled, and vital information, such as gas station footage, has been forever lost.
Recently, the Maple Grove police has renewed their efforts, and for that I applaude them. Unfortunately, it appears thier focus lies soley on my family and foul play. I am not aware if they looked into the sighting in MI. They tapped our phones and put us under surveillance - over twenty years after the occurance. Their equipment has yet to be removed. When they questioned my father, who has a severe allergy to latex and was later found to have significant heart diease requiring open heart surgery, they placed him in a warm room, using latex materials, and when he complained of feeling light-headed, short of breath, ignored it as a medical concern and took those very real physical symptoms as proof of his guilt. While I can understand their mistake in this matter, it makes me very upset that they would treat a victim's family member as such. Representatives interviewed by local newsstations have stated the investigation is on hold because we are not cooperating. Considering the major medical conditions, and the physical stressors caused by them, and their very recent methods of how they want us to cooperate, we are literaly unable to without significant injury to health.
I'm sure that I will upset a few people with this post, I do not mean to, but it is extremely frustrating to be put in such a position that we need to choose between the current health and well-being of my mother and father, or the police continuing their investigation into my sister's disappearance. It is a horrible choice and saddens me beyond words.
I want to thank you all again for keeping Amy in your thoughts. I hope you can help in any way possible. It tears at my heart to feel like there is nothing formally being done, but your time and energy is an amazing gift.
Thank you all
Hey there Whisper. I was reading back through the thread and this post caught my eye. Do you have a MSM link for this info.? I ask because this is the first I have heard that the P.I.'s had any affiliation with Missing Children Minnesota.
Also, "you were told" doesn't cut it for good reasoning behind believing someone's information. It's right up there with, "because I said so." Gah!
This is a place to put out information.
If someone has credible information such as the PI report, why is it being kept secret and comments made to call the police department? I do not understand how that is helping anyone
Indeed and thank you. Ultimately we are here to bring Amy home.All I want to say is that while I think it's likely that the posters who say they are members of Amy's family, are telling the truth... I think per "TOS"/websleuths rules/culture... we aren't supposed to believe anyone who claims insider info without an official verification...
So if someone claiming to be a relative of Amy, but does not have verification with websleuths, it is RUMOR until otherwise noted. This is to be of NO offense to the posters, just protocol that keeps a discussion moving forward on real info.
I haven't. I don't know how to go about it, and I'm a poor person who couldn't afford postage to send it anyway lol.Has anyone submitted an FOIA request to try to obtain more information? I am very curious to see the complete initial police report. I have only seen pieces of it on a Facebook page. The Facebook page is found by searching "Where is Amy Sue Pagnac". I called the Maple Grove PD and asked them if signatures were required on police reports back in 1989 and the officer that I spoke to stated that a signature by the person filing the report, either Marshall or Susan, would have been required. Of course she wouldn't comment specially on Amy's case since it is an open case and an ongoing investigation. I just can't imagine that either of them would have signed a report riddled with errors.
I haven't. I don't know how to go about it, and I'm a poor person who couldn't afford postage to send it anyway lol.
But, dontcha know, the initial police report is wrong! So many things are just "wrong" in this case that it makes it difficult to ascertain what is truth. So, while I personally would love to read primary sources, we'd just be told they're wrong and we're stupid for believing them. Scroll up if you don't get what I'm talking about.
If anyone gets them, though, please do post it all. I'm poor, but reading I can do for free and I'm a quick reader, so I'd volunteer.
ETA: geez, flourish, way to boast about your reading skills when you didn't read the entire post apparently!
Yes! Signatures! Brilliant! Excellent point!