GUILTY MN - Daunte Wright, 20, fatally shot by police during traffic stop, Brooklyn Center, Apr 2021 #2

[worm]

I don't know how many times a mix up like this (taser/gun) has happened but I've read a lot of news stories of police officers being dragged by a motorist fleeing arrest. (Resulting in an officer's death or serious injury). Maybe this is simply comparing apples to oranges, though??

I’ve seen this too but I don’t think this guy was trying that or they surely would be using it in the defense. I know that officers have enough stuff to carry around but I’ve wondered why not have a smaller version of the “stop stick” to place at a tire when the car is stopped? If the car pulls away it won’t get far.

 

[MaryFairy]

I don't know how many times a mix up like this (taser/gun) has happened but I've read a lot of news stories of police officers being dragged by a motorist fleeing arrest. (Resulting in an officer's death or serious injury). Maybe this is simply comparing apples to oranges, though??

Links?

 

[MaryFairy]

Exactly. Anytime a situation involves race and guns people automatically take sides based on their politics.

Not politics IMO, humanity.

 

[Apollo]

Links?

Video shows officer being dragged by car onto busy highway
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[URL='https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjDg6j46uz0AhU0lYkEHaRxDIwQFnoECAcQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqwimWPAdLK8&usg=AOvVaw2Hcs0C6AlNgByTEjVtF8L6']Update in death of police officer's death after being dragged ...
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Jun 17, 2021 — The suspect was shot and killed by the Holly Springs officer. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is providing more details on what happened ...

HPD officer dragged by vehicle during traffic stop; suspect shot
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Aug 29, 2021 — A Houston Police Department officer is recovering in the hospital after being dragged by a vehicle while conducting a traffic stop in ...

Police bodycam shows officer dragged, thrown from car by ...
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Jun 10, 2021 — Intense bodycam footage shows a Wyandotte police officer being dragged and thrown by a suspect's vehicle. Thankfully that officer is ...
CPD officer badly hurt after dragged by vehicle in Englewood
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Aug 14, 2021 — A Chicago police officer was seriously wounded after they were dragged by a vehicle Friday evening in Englewood.


Chicago cop dragged by car fleeing traffic stop, police say
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Nov 24, 2020 — A Chicago police officer was seriously injured after being dragged by a car that fled from a traffic stop on the city's South Side.

St. Paul police officer dragged by vehicle - YouTube
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Sep 3, 2021 — St. Paul police released a video on Friday, Sept. 3, 2021, that they said showed an officer being dragged by a vehicle on Sept. 2, 2021.

Holly Springs police officer dies after being dragged by car
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Jun 17, 2021 — The GBI said a briefing will be held at 2 p.m. to provide more details. This story and more on 11Alive News at Noon.
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[MaryFairy]

Video shows officer being dragged by car onto busy highway
https://www.youtube.com › watch

Update in death of police officer's death after being dragged ...
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Jun 17, 2021 — The suspect was shot and killed by the Holly Springs officer. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is providing more details on what happened ...

HPD officer dragged by vehicle during traffic stop; suspect shot
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Aug 29, 2021 — A Houston Police Department officer is recovering in the hospital after being dragged by a vehicle while conducting a traffic stop in ...

Police bodycam shows officer dragged, thrown from car by ...
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Jun 10, 2021 — Intense bodycam footage shows a Wyandotte police officer being dragged and thrown by a suspect's vehicle. Thankfully that officer is ...
CPD officer badly hurt after dragged by vehicle in Englewood
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Aug 14, 2021 — A Chicago police officer was seriously wounded after they were dragged by a vehicle Friday evening in Englewood.


Chicago cop dragged by car fleeing traffic stop, police say
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Nov 24, 2020 — A Chicago police officer was seriously injured after being dragged by a car that fled from a traffic stop on the city's South Side.

St. Paul police officer dragged by vehicle - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Sep 3, 2021 — St. Paul police released a video on Friday, Sept. 3, 2021, that they said showed an officer being dragged by a vehicle on Sept. 2, 2021.

Holly Springs police officer dies after being dragged by car
https://www.youtube.com › watch
Jun 17, 2021 — The GBI said a briefing will be held at 2 p.m. to provide more details. This story and more on 11Alive News at Noon.

One died.

 

[Apollo]

One died.

One died.

One out of the seven I posted. There are many more examples if you care to google the info. I'm not going to post all of them

 

[Cool Cats]

Jurors in ex-cop Kim Potter's manslaughter trial will need to decide which police use-of-force expert they believe

When jurors in former Minnesota police officer Kim Potter's manslaughter trial begin deliberations, they'll have to weigh conflicting testimony about whether her actions in the fatal shooting of Daunte Wright were justified.

The prosecution rested its case on Thursday morning, after a police use-of-force expert testified that Potter's use of deadly force during the traffic stop was "excessive and inappropriate."

The defense then called its own use-of-force expert, who said Potter's actions were "consistent" with Taser training, to the witness stand.

 

[Cool Cats]

A psychologist explained to jurors how police officers like Kim Potter can mistake their guns for Tasers

In this screen grab from video, Dr. Laurence Miller, a psychologist, testifies in the trial of former Brooklyn Center police Officer Kim Potter.

On Friday, Dr. Matthew Miller, a clinical neuropsychologist and professor at Florida Atlantic University, explained to jurors how officers can confuse their weapons through what he called "action errors" and "slip and capture" errors.

Miller explained to the jury that an "action error" happens when an intended action has an unintended effect, such as incorrectly writing the date when signing a check after the turn of a new year. Action errors have nothing to do with "outside interference, willful neglect, or conscious manipulation," Miller said.

"Slip and capture" errors are a subsection of action errors coined by a police psychologist, Miller said, and these errors occur in police work when officers are involved in fast-moving situations with a heightened sense of stress.

The most common example of a slip and capture error in police work is weapon confusion, according to Miller, who said confusing a Taser for a gun is "the most typical example of what's meant by weapon confusion."

 

[Recidivist]

Would it have happened to a white guy? Any examples?

I know of a white guy who was killed by police. The cop put gloves on his hands, lifted them up and said, "See these hands, they are getting ready to f- you up", and then they beat him to death. His name was Kelly Thomas. Nothing happened to police even though it was all caught on video.

I think bad cops will go after any color or race as a power high. I don't think Kim Potter is one of the bad cops and the color of Duante's skin was irrelevant to her. imo

 

[Cool Cats]

• Kim Potter Trial, Dec. 17: Potter Breaks Down On The Stand, 'I'm Sorry It Happened' - ePrimeFeed
• Female cop cries on stand recalling how Daunte Wright told her 'you shot me'

State pulls up pictures of Potter before the shooting, asking if she’s unsnapping her firearm with her right hand. Potter doesn’t affirm.

State asks Potter if Wright attempted to assault Officer Luckey, or said that he had a gun, and Potter said he didn’t.

State calls up video of Potter’s body camera footage right before shooting, and Potter is becoming increasingly emotional. State is asking about a piece of paper that she took from Wright and asks if she’s holding it in her right hand. She says she is.

After the state shows more video of the seconds before the shooting, and asking if Potter was holding a pistol in front of Wright, Potter begins crying and the judge asks if she needs a break.

Potter agrees that she needs a break and court takes a break.

 

[worm]

I know of a white guy who was killed by police. The cop put gloves on his hands, lifted them up and said, "See these hands, they are getting ready to f- you up", and then they beat him to death. His name was Kelly Thomas. Nothing happened to police even though it was all caught on video.

I think bad cops will go after any color or race as a power high. I don't think Kim Potter is one of the bad cops and the color of Duante's skin was irrelevant to her. imo

I agree, any race but not economic status. LE in my area treats the poor and wealthy quite different tho they will swear the opposite.

 

[turaj]

I found a comment by one of the TV attorney commentators interesting and had not given much thought to the dueling experts...Seth Stoughton who proudly declared he serves as an expert without charge and then you have defense expert Stephen Ijames who disclosed a flat rate of $30,000.00. The consensus was the paid witness had more credibility . In this case I tend to agree with that assessment. I think the State got what they did not pay for. Any thoughts on this?

 

[fred&edna]

I found a comment by one of the TV attorney commentators interesting and had not given much thought to the dueling experts...Seth Stoughton who proudly declared he serves as an expert without charge and then you have defense expert Stephen Ijames who disclosed a flat rate of $30,000.00. The consensus was the paid witness had more credibility . In this case I tend to agree with that assessment. I think the State got what they did not pay for. Any thoughts on this?

Just a bit of correction

Stephen Ijames was not paid (defense). Seth Stoughton was paid $295/hour (approx $10,000) (prosecution). Both were testifying about use of force.

Dr Laurence Miller (psychologist) (defense) was paid a flat fee of $30,000.00.

 

[deugirtni]

I dont know that prison is even the answer given that she has no criminal record or -I think I heard today- that she doesn’t have any kind of discipline problems at her job. I have a lot of sympathy for her since one of my greatest fears is having to use force to defend myself and living with that. I agree, it’s a tough situation. I even lean with her a bit because this man was in a car that could be driven, as a weapon, if he wanted. I would feel much better about her getting off light had she pled it to something.

She may not have been given an acceptable plea offer. imo.

 

[Shaddow]

The jury has the case... I say verdict tonight or tomorrow.

 

[Chelly]

Just a bit of correction

Stephen Ijames was not paid (defense). Seth Stoughton was paid $295/hour (approx $10,000) (prosecution). Both were testifying about use of force.

Dr Laurence Miller (psychologist) (defense) was paid a flat fee of $30,000.00.

could you provide a link, please. Sorry to be a bother, finally catching up.

 

[cvaldez1975]

How many times has a mix up like this happened (if you know). I can think of one other time but I think that involved a volunteer police officer. Any other instances like this one? Some police officer or supervisor who testified in this trial, said he didn't know of any other times this had ever happened.

marcie noriega in madera ca.

FindLaw's United States Ninth Circuit case and opinions.

Man accidentally killed by Madera Police, jury will hear case | ABC7 Chicago | abc7chicago.com

this case is even mentioned here Police Use Gun Instead of Taser? Long Before Daunte Wright, It Happened in Madera.

 

[Chelly]

Besides the jury's verdict impacting Kim Potter, it will send a loud message to policing behavior everywhere.

 

[fred&edna]

could you provide a link, please. Sorry to be a bother, finally catching up.

No problem. I actually went back to edit my post to include links but was too late.
I hope this is enough info.

Ijames:

Ijames, who testified that he is not being paid to review the case, said that he has decades of law enforcement experience after graduating from the FBI training academy. He’s worked as a patrol officer, detective and an assistant police chief. He also said that he just underwent open-heart surgery last week.

Kim Potter Trial, Dec. 16 Live Updates: Former BCPD Chief Saw 'No Violation' Of Policy When Reviewing Body Cam Video

Stougher:

Then, Gray highlights that Stoughton is paid $295 an hour for his work as an expert witness, and has billed the prosecution about $10,000 so far.

Kim Potter Trial, Dec. 15: Daunte Wright's Father Testifies, 'I Miss Him A Lot'

Miller:

She then brought up what Potter had previously told Laurence Miller, a psychologist and witness paid $30,000 by Potter's defense team as a consultant, who had interviewed Potter about the shooting.

Ex-officer Kim Potter cries on witness stand during manslaughter trial

 

[Jax49]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/20/kim-potter-trial-daunte-wright/

In a rebuttal, prosecutor Matthew Frank told the jury there is “no mistake defense.”

“The judge will not give you an instruction that says a person is not guilty if they commit a mistake. That’s not the law no matter how often the defense says mistake,” Frank said.

After listening to closing arguments, the jury deliberated for five hours Monday afternoon before adjourning for the night. They will continue to deliberate Tuesday morning.

Jury is sequestered during deliberations.