Sasquatch321
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Back to my question. Why is DR made POI ?
Someone knows, we don't, including the wetterlings imo.
Back to my question. Why is DR made POI ?
A "treatment program" that automatically locks people up for their whole lives after they have already served their prison terms??
“In a damaging courtroom sequence this week, top administrators at Minnesota’s sex offender treatment program admitted they don’t know if men confined for years at high-security treatment centers still deserve to be in custody.
Two high-level directors at the Minnesota Sex Offender Program (MSOP) said . . . the state may be detaining untold numbers of sex offenders who no longer meet the state’s legal requirement for confinement. The surprising admission, in the third week of a landmark federal trial in St. Paul, cast new doubt on whether the state is violating the Constitution by confining sex offenders for indefinite periods after they have already served their prison terms.
But even as the trial unfolds, officials said, MSOP is taking unprecedented steps to address constitutional concerns by moving detained offenders closer to release.
The state is moving to nearly double the size of Community Preparation Services, a program designed to reintegrate sex offenders into the community after they have completed treatment. The number of offenders in this final phase of treatment has more than tripled, to 32, in the past three years. About 60 percent of offenders are in the final two stages of treatment, up from 29 percent three years ago.
In scathing testimony, former MSOP Executive Director Dennis Benson said the system is fundamentally broken, largely because too many elected officials have a say over who gets released. Even after MSOP staff supports the provisional discharge of an offender, county attorneys and political appointees could intervene to prevent release, Benson said.
. . . it is unlikely that MSOP will pass constitutional muster with the judge, said Eric Janus, dean of the William Mitchell College of Law and author of a book on sex offender commitment laws.
“A treatment program that automatically locks people up for their whole lives, without even assessing whether they pose a risk to the public, is not a treatment program,” he said. “It’s punitive and, by definition, unconstitutional.”
The plaintiffs closed their case Thursday, and the state will begin calling witnesses Friday. The trial is scheduled to last through March 27.”
Testimony chips away at state's sex offender program (Minneapolis Star Tribune‎
Prov. 11:14
just kill them at sentencing. No fuss, no muss.
I don"t get it. DAH raped children for years, for instance. And we should not punish him?
Is that area in range to get KEYC out of Mankato over the air?
I should have been clear. KEYC is a television station. It airs the show Bandwagon, which features polka bands most of the time. It came to mind with all this recent discussion. I occasionally watched it when I lived in northwest Iowa as a kid.
I should have been clear. KEYC is a television station. It airs the show Bandwagon, which features polka bands most of the time. It came to mind with all this recent discussion. I occasionally watched it when I lived in northwest Iowa as a kid.
@Trackergd,
What shoeprints have you found in the photos of DR's driveway, and if you have some as candidates for the abductor, where you able to determine some shoe/sole type and size for them?
I believe a lot of our criminal justice programs surrounding sex offenses are not constitutional. The offenders are not treated fair when compared to other felons. I am not saying they should get a pass, but it seems like murderers are treated much better. I don't think murderers have to register, etc, and unless they are insane they are allowed to be released.just kill them at sentencing. No fuss, no muss.
I don"t get it. DAH raped children for years, for instance. And we should not punish him?
@RichKelly,
Very nice work on JW analysis (post#775). Thank you again for providing that analysis to the forum. Would it be possible for you to also do a little "linkage" analysis? for the cases referenced here - http://www.joybaker.com/2014/04/07/paynesville-incidents/
I do realize that it will be very difficult to do this professionally without direct access to the relevant case files, but any insights you can share...given whatever info is available to you...would be greatly appreciated.
How did he know the children would be passing? If the twice in one day scenario is true, he could hardly have known in the afternoon that the children would be passing later that night.
Unfortunately, I think the area had between 10-20 active pedophiles.Without the pertinent information it would be speculative at best, but I generally don't from blogs for several reasons.
I will say however I wouldn't be stunned to hear of other crimes similar in most if not all aspects, barring the complete disappearance of a victim, occurring around the same time.
Unfortunately, I think the area had between 10-20 active pedophiles.
10-20 is ALOT, some Pedophile rings aren't that large, and if by "active" you mean actively molesting victims, then that may be the largest concentration I have seen barring internet based rings that get busted
The thing to remember is that not all Pedophiles molest , and in contrast MOST molesters aren't true pedophiles, that throws ALOT of people though I will say that the members here are very apt to try to understand the dynamics involved.
That being said even fewer (molesters/pedophiles) will actually abduct or even attempt to.
Remember the MOST common Pedophile types also happen to be least "dangerous" types in terms of potential violence particularly homicide.
The "Seduction" types (the most common) are looking for a sexual/emotional relationship with children, they spend years grooming numbers of victims, therefore they almost ALWAYS have constant access to them. These individuals have no need to abduct, and usually wouldn't even if they had to because they aren't simply looking for the Sexual, but a true relationship .
They will spend 90% of their time trying to locate and groom new victims , but VERY few cases exist where this type has intentionally harmed victims.
In the known cases of such behavior its was usually a means to keep their actions secret
NOW there have been cases, (though the number I believe is less than 10) where Seduction types have for some reason, become sadistic over a period of time, now these are almost considered enigma. Its unknown why this "metamorphosis" occurred in those cases , but its believed that the roots of the sadistic behavior had already been demonstrated in the offenders lives elsewhere prior to their sexual deviant crimes.
If we reduce that further taking into account that females outnumber (almost double in some studies) males as victims of molestation, abduction, and abduction/homicides, the proverbial "noose" if you will starts to close even more
Next we look at individual pasts, what type of crimes did they commit ?, of course ones with pasts including abductions or attempted abductions should be scrutinized...
Remember though the actions of those who molest (for whatever underlying cause) though certainly damaging to their victims, does NOT pre-dispose the offender to "violence".
In Short Pedophiles who Stalk/abduct/molest/kill/prefer male victims/ are pretty rare, those should be taken in as investigative considerations in the event this case is to be reviewed
There also remains the chance he was abducted and kept (Ex Shawn Hornbeck etc..) , but the general profile would remain almost identical, but this is an even smaller group statistically