If I currently knew, none of us would be here discussing this case. This case is going to be more difficult due to the Abbey's unwillingness to cooperate as shown in the Wollmering email exchanges in file 2 starting at page 91. There are more emails in the 30,000 pages of documents available. Unfortunately you're going to have to read through the documents yourself just like I did so you can form your own opinion and thoughts. And then everyone compares notes and thoughts and maybe something they caught that others missed. Brainstorming if you will. If you have a question, seek out the answer. Mr. Marker has done a terrific job organizing a ton of info at Behind the Pine Curtain. And Stumpf is not a river, it's a spring fed lake like the rest in the Collegeville/Avon Hills area in which I live.