MS - Jessica Chambers, 19, found burned near her car, Panola County, 6 Dec 2014 - #6

[carbuff]

If that's the case, wow... Just wow. If she was walking and talking, you would *think* she would be able to say which direction the perp went in and why it happened. You would think the responders would ask more than "who did this?."

Maybe they did. But that sounds more like bad reporting to me.

 

[wfgodot]

I am not getting warm fuzzy feelings that the police are actually competent at this point...

my clip, with respect ^

Nor am I, nor am I.

 

[absentia]

again, from yesterday:
"Chambers was found on Herron Road in Courtland a little after 8 p.m. on Dec. 6, walking away from her burning vehicle with burns over 98 percent of her body."
http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...-chambers-slaying-one-month-arrests/21315077/

 

[Elle*Bee]

I also have no idea what the 911 caller said (LOL about the algebra...sorry).
But many sources including JC's dad said she was walking on fire. Example:
http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/jessica_chambers_death_dad_fru.html
~ By Associated Press on December 25, 2014 at 11:00 PM, updated December 26, 2014 at 12:57 AM~ Notice the fairly late date of this article~
Jessica Chambers, who was doused with a flammable liquid and set on fire, was found walking from her blazing car on Dec. 6 shortly before she died. She had been burned over 98 percent of her body.
:thinking:

It's unclear to me from the above article whether she was ablaze while walking, or whether the fire was doused (stopped, dropped and rolled and regained her footing) while (IF) she was in fact walking.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Argh.

It wasn't a battered women's shelter and I keep reading this misinformation as it's taken on a life of it's own. According to their website, Leah's House place to get yourself together. "...Our ministry helps women ages 18 and over who have been incarcerated, deal with addictions, behavioral problems, self-harm, depression, and others. It is our goal to provide a comprehensive, Biblical..." Nothing to do with being a victim of abuse, but that would certainly be addressed in counseling.

Counseling, coping skills, living a clean life with spirituality -in this place, God- not a battered women's shelter. It looks like it may have been a stipulation of her most recent arrest that included battery. There are degrees of battery (maybe not to the law, but it's important to note) and it may have been something mutual such as a girl fight. *I hate using that phrase, but it's to differentiate from domestic abuse* or even slapping a drink or cell phone out of someone's hand as opposed to an all-out beating someone with an object kind of fight.

Along the lines of a sober-living house.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

It's unclear to me from the above article whether she was ablaze while walking, or whether the fire was doused (stopped, dropped and rolled and regained her footing) while (IF) she was in fact walking.

Right.....& I've read many conflicting articles---was she walking while enflamed, laying near her car on the ground---what?? Why can't that be clear?
And another thing that I found odd was that in two videos I watched where the volunteer fire chief was interviewed, he said exactly the same words "I hated for it to happen" in reference to JC's family. I understand not wanting to give evidentiary-leaking statements but to repeat the exact words regarding the family twice (two separate interviews) is weird to me.

I'm not implying anything other than something seems off about this case.

Hinky-meter alerts are all too frequent for my liking.

Moo

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Argh.

It wasn't a battered women's shelter and I keep reading this misinformation as it's taken on a life of it's own. According to their website, Leah's House place to get yourself together. "...Our ministry helps women ages 18 and over who have been incarcerated, deal with addictions, behavioral problems, self-harm, depression, and others. It is our goal to provide a comprehensive, Biblical..." Nothing to do with being a victim of abuse, but that would certainly be addressed in counseling.

Counseling, coping skills, living a clean life with spirituality -in this place, God- not a battered women's shelter. It looks like it may have been a stipulation of her most recent arrest that included battery. There are degrees of battery (maybe not to the law, but it's important to note) and it may have been something mutual such as a girl fight. *I hate using that phrase, but it's to differentiate from domestic abuse* or even slapping a drink or cell phone out of someone's hand as opposed to an all-out beating someone with an object kind of fight.

Along the lines of a sober-living house.

Aside from the lady JC talked to about writing a book, I wonder if she became close with anyone else from that place??

 

[volcarm]

I'm surprised thr name she gave doesn't lead to someone close to her.

 

[absentia]

It's unclear to me from the above article whether she was ablaze while walking, or whether the fire was doused (stopped, dropped and rolled and regained her footing) while (IF) she was in fact walking.

with the extent of the damage to the interior of the car and the supposed fact that JC was walking and talking while on fire leads me to think she wasn't in the car for long, or at all. I would doubt if you were in a car so consumed by fire you would be injured so severely so quickly that you couldn't get out. maybe not. i can't see how she could be set on fire in the car without the person setting the fire being burned a little. how could they get out without any injury? if she were set on fire outside the car, it would be easier to get away without getting burned if you were the perp. unless she were unconscious in the car, soaked with accelerant, then match lit and thrown in car from outside. that means she would have had to wake up and find her way out of the car pretty quickly to still be able to walk and talk. possible after being unconscious? Maybe?

 

[absentia]

Right.....& I've read many conflicting articles---was she walking while enflamed, laying near her car on the ground---what?? Why can't that be clear?
And another thing that I found odd was that in two videos I watched where the volunteer fire chief was interviewed, he said exactly the same words "I hated for it to happen" in reference to JC's family. I understand not wanting to give evidentiary-leaking statements but to repeat the exact words regarding the family twice (two separate interviews) is weird to me.

I'm not implying anything other than something seems off about this case.

Hinky-meter alerts are all too frequent for my liking.

Moo

what the chief said must be a local way of speaking. I found it odd when Sha Sha said "then it happened". using the word "it" implies knowledge and familiarity of a subject. such a shocking thing should not be spoken of in such a familiar way. If it were me, I would say specifically what happened bc of the shock of it. for instance, "i left the party and then she was set on fire, or, and then, well, something terrible happened to her". but to say, then "it " happened" or " I hated for it to happen" seems too familiar with what happened and "for it to happen" also implies a certain acceptance or inevitability of it. I would say "I hate that that happened to their child/to her". it must be a local way of speaking.

 

[absentia]

Right.....& I've read many conflicting articles---was she walking while enflamed, laying near her car on the ground---what?? Why can't that be clear?
And another thing that I found odd was that in two videos I watched where the volunteer fire chief was interviewed, he said exactly the same words "I hated for it to happen" in reference to JC's family. I understand not wanting to give evidentiary-leaking statements but to repeat the exact words regarding the family twice (two separate interviews) is weird to me.

I'm not implying anything other than something seems off about this case.

Hinky-meter alerts are all too frequent for my liking.

Moo

what the chief said must be a local way of speaking. I found it odd when Sha Sha said "then it happened". using the word "it" implies knowledge and familiarity of a subject. such a shocking thing should not be spoken of in such a familiar way. If it were me, I would say specifically what happened bc of the shock of it. for instance, "i left the party and then she was set on fire, or, and then, well, something terrible happened to her". but to say, then "it " happened" or " I hated for it to happen" seems too familiar with what happened and "for it to happen" also implies a certain acceptance or inevitability of it. I would say "I hate that that happened to their child/to her". it must be a local way of speaking.

 

[absentia]

There are a couple of links that I have looked for for HOURS! Can anyone provide a link of the interview with BRudd that has been mentioned in earlier threads? Also, a link to the interview with the fire chief where he is in a rocking chair? Thanks.

EDIT: I found the one with the fire chief. Still looking for exboyfriend interview.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/...hambersslaying-sends-shock-hometown/20226105/
"she did speak with me. she did talk with me".
"In the background of the grieving is the ominous feeling that even though the authorities had said the attack was not random,...".
scroll down. BR's interview is not MSM. google BR and charles johnson and soundcloud.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

There are a couple of links that I have looked for for HOURS! Can anyone provide a link of the interview with BRudd that has been mentioned in earlier threads? Also, a link to the interview with the fire chief where he is in a rocking chair? Thanks.

EDIT: I found the one with the fire chief. Still looking for exboyfriend interview.

Thread 5, post #1004 = my link to volunteer fire chief rocking in chair.

 

[MyBelle]

If I'm remembering the past few exchanges in this side conversation, somebody seems shocked that a man would kill his lover over a jealous wife. Men have killed lovers (Erin Corbin's killer, the killer Caesar Laurean--a Marine at Camp Lejeune in NC who killed fellow pregnant marine) and in both of those cases the wives seem to know about the affair and likely the murder too based on their comments-can't say with certainty that the motive was exclusively for their jealous wives, but in both cases their "love allegiance" was with the wives hence why they killed their lovers. If I am recalling correctly the wife of the man who killed Erin Corbin is said to have stated that they will never find Erin-- turns out her body was at the bottom of a mine.

David Graham killed his "lover" with his girlfriend Diane Zamora because she was jealous of the sexual relationship with the other girl. It was quite a brutal murder.


As for JC, it is quite possible that A lover did it, if he was emotionally tied to another woman.

Erin Corwin was murdered because her lover feared his wife would find out about the affair and the pregnancy. He didn't murder her because his wife wanted him to do so. Caesar Laurean murdered the woman who had accused him of sexual assault. His motive was to save his career. I see no comparison to the facts of this case that we do know.

JMO

 

[suspicious1]

Mister and Tudor both are quoted as saying something about a "love affair". Mister also states that he was sampled for DNA.

One might assume that LE has reason to believe that someone left tell-tale DNA.

Suppose Jessica Chambers was pregnant; perhaps only 6-8 weeks. Even though her body was 95% torched the DNA of the fetus would have survived the fire.

Still trying to catch up but that is a very good point....might be why she was trying to turn her life around....might be why she slept around all that day....might be why someone would have wanted to get rid if her....

 

[MyBelle]

Teach them the shortcuts---lol!

Anyway....back to our volunteer fire chief, CH. I believe he said he responded to what he thought would be a car on fire. I believe there were other first responders there as well. He had very recently been to a fire happening somewhere else just prior. (Such a small town; 2 fires in one night?).

What hasn't been made clear to me is who would call volunteer fire chief directly---cause I've seen MSM links stating such. It wasn't a 911 call---it was a private call to CH. Why that?

Some things don't seem clear.

Moo

Two fires doesn't seem unusual. It was getting cold and people needed heat. Large rural area with farms, outbuildings meant much to cover. In some small, rural communities, the 911 call first goes into a call center and then the operator dispatches the call either by phone or radio to the proper agency. Courtland has a volunteer fire department but if an off duty firefighter or LE first spotted the car fire, no telling how or who was first called.

 

[OneLove]

Aside from the lady JC talked to about writing a book, I wonder if she became close with anyone else from that place??

Don't know if it was at the same time that JC was there or not, but there was a young woman there with the same last name of one of JC's boyfriends. Of course, it's a big family and many people in the area with that last name. Just reading the links posted on arrest records makes me wonder who in that town HASN'T been arrested before.
On hair or eyebrows being singed off in the fire, I took a very interesting walk through social media looking for young women with shaved eyebrows penciled back on. [emoji15]
What a convoluted case.

 

[MyBelle]

I am not getting a good perspective of the area based on the maps. Could AA have seen a fire from the station? Car fires are pretty obvious. They look like an oversized gas flame.

No way could it be seen from the gas station, imo. Too many trees, distance and it was dark.

 

[4senthia]

Do we have an acceptable link for Leah's House being the place JC went according to her dad or to anyone, like in MSM?
TIA cause I've only read about that@other places and I'd really love confirmation on that.

 

[absentia]

Don't know if it was at the same time that JC was there or not, but there was a young woman there with the same last name of one of JC's boyfriends. Of course, it's a big family and many people in the area with that last name. Just reading the links posted on arrest records makes me wonder who in that town HASN'T been arrested before.
On hair or eyebrows being singed off in the fire, I took a very interesting walk through social media looking for young women with shaved eyebrows penciled back on. [emoji15]
What a convoluted case.

whoa. bushy to pencil thin. yikes
did you notice haircuts and dye jobs?