MSM coverage of Baby Lisa, 11/4/11

[cluciano63]

Did the reporter say the two new people AREN'T the Brandos? If not, that is who I think they are...I know he is better than most, but it is HLN after all, JMO.

 

[In da Middle]

The river may be close "as the crow flies" but getting to the river and back via vehicle in the matter of minutes we're talking about re Jeremy is pretty much physically impossible. There are only so many spots that have access to the river via vehicle versus on foot. Yes, access is possible via the casinos but those also have lots of folks coming and going. Maybe someone knows of an access point in the Northland that I don't know of that Jeremy could have gotten to and back in 10 minutes. Sugar Creek's LaBette (sp) is the best spot (that's where I wrongfully thought the Porter children were) but he could not have gotten there and back. He wouldn't have had time to have walked to a remote spot (now someone else would have. I'm referring specifically to Jeremy).

And you really think he comes home, finds his daughter dead, doesn't have lots of questions and literally in a matter of seconds decides to cover it up for his wife or someone else? Doesn't spend any time getting emotional, asking questions etc etc? Neighbors have said they heard him sprinting from his home to Samantha's bellowing tell me you have Lisa.

Nothing is impossible, of course, I just don't see that it's probable.

Yep. Anything that is close enough to be probable isn't as easy access as it looks on a map. First you have to at least travel a ways down Birmingham rd because right at Brighton, there are woods between the road and the river and it would be very dark at the time. If you travel further down Birmingham Rd to where the river is much closer to the road, you still have to lug a baby across the railroad tracks and then navigate in the dark very eroded clay banks and be able to get your package far enough to get in the water. Right now the banks are in very bad shape from all of the flooding this summer. I would think that would leave evidence by itself and LE had their command center right there just a little bit away from this spot. Previous summers it would have been much easier, but the flooding this summer changed things a bit.

 

[JeannaT]

Did the reporter say the two new people AREN'T the Brandos? If not, that is who I think they are...I know he is better than most, but it is HLN after all, JMO.

I don't think he said anything at all to ID them, but the Brandos aren't new to HLN. I think this will be 2 new contacts we haven't heard the names of yet.

 

[madge]

Per the video of our own WSer who drove to the river though, I do think it's possible that BL body could easily have been disposed of in the river. I watched that video and it's not that far driving to the river and we don't know that PN couldn't have taken the body away to the river. I think the 8:30 phone call was to MW phone looking for PN.

 

[In da Middle]

Per the video of our own WSer who drove to the river though, I do think it's possible that BL body could easily have been disposed of in the river. I watched that video and it's not that far driving to the river and we don't know that PN couldn't have taken the body away to the river. I think the 8:30 phone call was to MW phone looking for PN.

Now that is possible except the same holds true for the eroded banks and leaving evidence of somebody possibly being there. But more time leaves other options in general

 

[LadyPirate]

I also wonder if initally she was hidden in one spot, and then maybe moved later, accounting for the disturbed earth in the backyard. It could be that she wasn't put into the river until later. But who knows. This case is so confusing and complex. I just don't want something ruled out and then later on it comes back to bite the case. I would hate to see that happen.

I saw that mentioned in a much earlier thread. However, I haven't seen anything about the dogs hitting on the freshly dug earth, or maybe I missed it. Maybe someone started to put her there and changed their mind?

 

[PoppyH]

I saw that mentioned in a much earlier thread. However, I haven't seen anything about the dogs hitting on the freshly dug earth, or maybe I missed it. Maybe someone started to put her there and changed their mind?

Or the boys were outside playing and digging, or the dog could have been digging, who knows

 

[DeAnn]

Per the video of our own WSer who drove to the river though, I do think it's possible that BL body could easily have been disposed of in the river. I watched that video and it's not that far driving to the river and we don't know that PN couldn't have taken the body away to the river. I think the 8:30 phone call was to MW phone looking for PN.

We were specifically discussing Jeremy Irwin and his period of opportunity. I think it's improbable if not impossible. Anyone else, very possible. As I said, LaBette (spelling) Park in Sugar Creek has easy access, close enough but far enough away. Fort Osage is another location. Summer Shipp was clearly dumped near the Little Blue in the middle of the night. Those trails would have easy access. Anyone else could have had access to the Missouri River BUT Jeremy imo.

 

[madge]

We were specifically discussing Jeremy Irwin and his period of opportunity. I think it's improbable if not impossible. Anyone else, very possible. As I said, LaBette (spelling) Park in Sugar Creek has easy access, close enough but far enough away. Fort Osage is another location. Summer Shipp was clearly dumped near the Little Blue in the middle of the night. Those trails would have easy access. Anyone else could have had access to the Missouri River BUT Jeremy imo.

Being a complete dufuss with Google maps do you have any idea of mileage, length of walking time, driving time, etc to these places from Baby Lisa's home? Any idea if police did any searching there? Am googling Summer Shipp now. Thanks

 

[yllek]

MK on Fox news just reported the new lawyer for the family was contacted and he said there will be no statement made until the end of next week.

Just getting home from work. As I did before going to work, jumped on-line hoping to see an announcement from LE or the parents (and company) that Lisa has been found. Every day for a month, I've hoped for this announcement, and I know I'm not alone here.

So, why do the parents and the lawyers think it not possible that they would be making an announcement related to Lisa being found before the end of next week? Why wouldn't they at least want to make an annoucement to the effect that the big 100k reward is still out there, so someone please call the hotline. Telling, imo...

 

[epiphany]

jimspellmancnn

@Amys1867 still working on the 2new figures that I think are pretty pivotal. Lots of legwork and double checking B4 I can report anything
33 seconds ago

 

[epiphany]

jimspellmancnn

@TaraHogan991 sorry Tara...I'm tracking down a bunch of things and it won't come through today so I have nothing new so SORRY!
2 minutes ago

 

[curiousc]

jimspellmancnn

@TaraHogan991 sorry Tara...I'm tracking down a bunch of things and it won't come through today so I have nothing new so SORRY!
2 minutes ago

I like Jim Spellman, but, for crying out loud, why start tweeting about these characters until you can report about them?

 

[Sigh Sister]

I like Jim Spellman, but, for crying out loud, why start tweeting about these characters until you can report about them?

To keep us watching and following his tweets. Irritating.

 

[Sparklin]

The report is coming from a reporter from CNN.But he just tweeted that he needs to nail a few things down before he reports it!

From previous tweeting I would say he is trying to nail down the benefactor.

 

[yllek]

To keep us watching and following his tweets. Irritating.

Irritating, yes. Effective, yes, at least for me. I'm anxious for someone to post his next tweet! :crazy:

 

[MaryAnn]

You could well be right, Aedrys. Your theory fits in with DB's reluctance to go into the backyward...assuming of course that's where the overturned earth was.

If DB had really buried Little Lisa in the backyard, she wouldn't say I was scared to go back there. That would be saying she is back there. I think I understand where DB was coming from when she said " I was scared of what I would find back there". When my Son was about 7 or 8 he was playing in the driveway with his other friends close to my front door, I ran in the house for a second and heard screeching brakes in the street. My heart literally stopped and for that second I couldn't move and was absolutely terrified to go outside for fear he had gone into the street and was hit. That was the longest second, I can still remember and he's now 33 years old. But I think that is where DB is coming from. I wouldn't have understood unless I had experienced it myself. I don't think we should read into every word out of her mouth.

 

[Krisarie]

"jimspellman

@jimspellmancnn
@CherylLasseter not names you have heard i don think...won't be able to do so tonight and given court hours maybe. Not til Monday
8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone"

Love following him, but yikes, Monday?!

 

[twiggles]

Irritating, yes. Effective, yes, at least for me. I'm anxious for someone to post his next tweet! :crazy:

You can read his tweets here: http://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn

Mods, please remove link if not allowed.

 

[~n/t~]

"jimspellman

@jimspellmancnn
@CherylLasseter not names you have heard i don think...won't be able to do so tonight and given court hours maybe. Not til Monday
8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone"

Love following him, but yikes, Monday?!

The Conrad Murray jurors just ended deliberations with no verdict so maybe he'll report on baby Lisa's case.

It sounds like they were expecting a verdict and/or longer deliberations.