Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #3

[calidreamin]

and to include the sister in law said she never met nancy

I read that article and was shocked when the sister in law said that! Maybe he wasn't close to his family.

 

[raeann]

My husband is frequently called upon to be an expert witness in court trials, sometimes for the plaintiff and sometimes for the defendant. No matter what side he is requested by, I always discuss the case with him and argue against his opinions (Partly to be annoying, and partly to prepare him for what the opposing attorney might question him on). So, I thought I would do the same here and play devil's advocate since EVERYONE seems to have tried, convicted and placed on death row the prime suspect in this case.

Other possible suspects:

1. The hard to find Carrie, the supposed running partner, both the friend who reported Nancy missing and Brad said that they knew of her but not much about her, phone number, last name etc.

2. A current or former partner in one of Brad's alleged affairs.

3. IF Brad had affairs as alleged for a long period of time, that does not exclude the possibility of Nancy having one also. This would add the possibility of a man whom she had a relationship with, but had broken it off. AND/OR

4. The wife or ex-wife of someone that Nancy had possibly had an affair with.

5. A person within the running community who might have had a crush on Nancy and whom she had rejected.

6. Any person who had been involved in an affair with either Brad or Nancy and feared they would be publicly exposed during a divorce and custody battle.

Those are just a few of the possibilities I would argue, even though it looks pretty bad for Brad right now. However, I also find it hard to believe the rumor about the detergent with bleach. It seems unlikely that a teenage store employee would be randomly invited into the police viewing of the security tapes, and then allowed to go out and discuss that evidence with whomever they choose. Extremely questionable police work if this really happened, and all else points to LE being very cautious and responsible about letting information out on this case.

 

[Tia]

I read that article and was shocked when the sister in law said that! Maybe he wasn't close to his family.

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.

 

[jilly]

Medicine Hat is in Alberta, Canada. It's Brad's home town and I understand that Nancy was from Edmonton (which I believe is the capital of Alberta, but I'm not really up on my Canadian).

That's correct. Edmonton is north of Calgary and Medicine Hat is southeast of Calgary towards Saskatchewan.

ETA - here's a map

http://www.watertoninfo.ab.ca/mapab.html

 

[JDB]

thanks mom! he is an architect right? just me thinking outloud.

I don't think he is. I do know he works for cisco:crazy:

 

[Aimee729]

My family would first be shocked that I was out jogging, second think I had twisted my ankle or passed out from the heat and come looking for me or at least hunted me up when it was time for their next meal. =)

 

[Magister]

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.

Not to be a wet blanket, but we don't know how long his brother has been married or whether he eloped. For all we know, the brother may have had a quickie wedding last year and he may have called his family afterwards. We do seem to have an indication of how long Nancy and Brad were married, but again, we don't actually know the circumstances of their wedding.

 

[calidreamin]

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.

You would think they would have. That just made my hinky meter go crazy when I heard that.

 

[CyberPro]

Hello All, I have been lurking here since yesterday. Excellent and enlightning discussions, very civil too, especially considering the subject matter.

I just got my account validated, but I have been busting at the seams to post!

I have not been following all that much of the TV coverage on this, but I live pretty close to where this happened. In fact, while I was not part of any organized search effort, I live only about a mile from Regency Park, which was supposedly a place Nancy liked to run. I happened to be out in the woods around this are on Saturday and Sunday, looking for Geocaches, and since I was aware of this Missing Person report, I was keeping my eyes open for any signs of her being in the area. I suspected possible foul play, so I was also looking for clothing items that were described.

I have been keeping up with the happenings via the web. I do have a couple of observations from my POV, being an IT professional.

1. There has been some mention of possible financial issues as being a cause of the marital stress. IMO, I doubt it! While no one outside the family is likely to know for sure, Brad is a CCIE and an MBA. For those who do not know what a CCIE is, it is a Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert. This is a VERY difficult to get certification, and requires a great deal of understanding and demonstrated expertise at how to configure Cisco products. This has to be proven in a hands on lab, you have to build the network to the specifications provided, and then you leave overnight. When you return, they have made changes to the network and broken it, and you have to find out what is wrong and correct it. While you are doing this, you are under observation by the proctor, and you are graded not only on your successful correction of the problems, but how well you used the tools and resources that you had available. This is subjective, but suffice it to say that I know some serious network folks, and they have taken the test a couple of times, but have yet to pass it. If you have a CCIE, you can EASILY make over 100k/year, even if you are dumb. I have heard of some contractor CCIE's who can make over 500k/year for taking an overseas assignment. If they were having financial issues, they were probably burning through some serious cash, and that is without even adding the MBA on top of it all.

2. You can never know for sure, but there was some mention of finding out what he researched on his computer. - This is always a possibility, and it is possible that he is using a computer similar to a Windows Vista system that was mentioned in one of his Blogs, but he could also be using a Linux system, and know how to cover his tracks pretty well, if he was thinking ahead that much. This is not to say that no data will be recovered, but it might not be as easy as it is in some cases. It is possible, but not likely, that he might know a lot about networks without understanding computers all that well, but again, not likely. FWIW, Cary PD recently started a Computer Crimes division, and have dedicated resources to delve into this issue.

3. Momof3, I am somewhat familiar with that area, but I live on the other side of Regency Park. Which store was he seen in? Was it a regular grocery store, or a convenience store?

I have got to hit to road for work now, but I will be back later this evening.

CyberPro

"Opinions expressed are strictly my own. Your opinions might be different, that is OK, you are entitled to be wrong if you wish." :Banane37:

 

[calidreamin]

I don't think he is. I do know he works for cisco:crazy:

Hi JDB do you know what cisco does? I'm just curios TIA!

 

[calidreamin]

Welcome to Websleuths CyberPro and that was a great first post. Thank you for the information.

 

[Pepper]

Can someone point me to where an affair was brought up? I'm trying to catch up on this thread, and keep seeing an affair mentioned, but can't find the first post on it, or where that info came from.

Thanks!

 

[Lilybug1]

They could be. They may want to take her home to canada but are waiting for the police to arrest someone. They are also probably trying to figure out who will care for the girls if the father is arrested.

It's really not up to them. Unfortunately, like the honeymoon scuba diving murderer husband, he's the husband so it's really up to him - unless he is arrested. I seriously doubt he is holding off on funeral arrangements until he gets arrested. He may just not care right now because he has over things to worry about or is genuinely overwhelmed.

Ditto for the girls - they can't take them away from their father unless the father is implicated in the killing or the father agrees.

 

[Sweetyhide]

Hi Cyber Pro!
Thanks for that insight.
If Brad is involved I don't think it has anything to do with money either.
Maybe not wanting to fail at his marriage...???
My guess is failure for him would be devestating.

Calidreamin, Cisco is an international networking co.- computers and such (my recollection)

 

[CyberPro]

Calidreamin,

Cisco invented Network Routing. This is the glue that holds networks, like the Internet, together. Without this, computers would be very limited in the distance that they could communicate to each other. This device allows a virtually unlimited length of network.

You might not know it, but I am almost certain that you are communicating across their devices when you are on the Internet.

CyberPro

 

[close_enough]

welcome CyberPro!!....thanks for the info, regarding his job & all.....i'm curious as to what type of store this was also....i heard a reporter asking the question about it, & i THINK they used the term "variety" store....so that could be something like a 24 hour Walgreens maybe???

trying to catch up here....

eta..found this, but i have no idea how close any of these are...just a stab in the dark....(isn't that the saying?)

http://local.yahoo.com/results?fr=dd-local-more&stx=24+hour+walgreens&csz=Cary%2C+NC

 

[Coolmomof4]

A little update...

Momto3kids, I have a question for you. I used to live in Cary, and I am confused as to wich Lochmere neighborhood/area the Coopers' lived. Is the older section off of Kildaire Farm Rd, that backs up to Holly Springs Rd, near Lilly Atkins, or is it the "newer" area right off Cary Parkway?

 

[calidreamin]

Calidreamin,

Cisco invented Network Routing. This is the glue that holds networks, like the Internet, together. Without this, computers would be very limited in the distance that they could communicate to each other. This device allows a virtually unlimited length of network.

You might not know it, but I am almost certain that you are communicating across their devices when you are on the Internet.

CyberPro

Wow that is really interesting thank you for letting me know. It is good to have you here!

 

[headndownstream]

Hello All, I believe I was here last year reading only, when Jessie Davis disappeared (Bobby Cutts?) So this time I registered. I've been wanting to reply so many times, but it took awhile to get approved/validated. Here are some random thoughts I've acquired as I've read these pages.

First, I don't watch Nancy Grace, but when I do want to, I don't know what time or even what station, so if someone could help me with that?

I remember Jessie's son was able to tell what happened to his mom and he was quite young. Wonder what their girls are saying? And I wonder where he is staying???/what Cisco is thinking. They have probably sunk a LOT of $$$ into this guy. Maybe even paid for his masters.

I was thinking, that if he is a runner, he must run the area too. Who knows where they go, but does anyone think he could have found the new housing development and remembered it was a secluded site while he was jogging?

I'm pretty sure I saw Brads father listed as a vise-president at what, a school/college? on one of the links posted here. Do I remember correctly it was the school where Brad got his masters?

Did anyone figure out if he was the person on the website listed where he is a motivational speaker/ and has books for sale? There were pictures that looked like him. ok, now I can't remember what else I wanted to comment on...

 

[close_enough]

Hi Close Enough!! Thanks for the welcome.
I am not positive if the body had been removed at that time but I am thinking it was and that this was just LE searching for evidence left at the site. If I am remembering correctly, it was close in the late evening when the body was reported being found and by the time reporters got to the scene and started interviewing LE it was dark. My guess is that the helicopter footage was taken the next morning while investigators where searching the scene. JMO

thanks for the response!...heck, i'd forgotten her body was found closer to dark...that makes sense that the footage was filmed the next morning.....