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BTW, weather in the area at night around the 32F mark- not particularly warm, though daily highs were 50-60F.
I realize that we don’t know the background or circumstances of why the kids are there, but I would have literally gone WILD as a parent if my kid was in there! I’d have been driving nonstop to NC on Day 1 to get there and rescue my troubled, unruly, out of control child from that environment. The kids had to have been first traumatized by the death and then by the further abandonment by their parents not immediately swooping in to get them after the (I’m assuming) murder. I’m going to guess those kids have stories of their own about their experiences there. I feel so bad for the kids, the extra therapy that these kids will need to sort through all this. Parents are going to need therapy too for the guilt. My opinion only.10 days late, but better than never.
Interesting, that they don't seem to have sent kids home.
IMO, sounds as though everything is directed by lawyers who are in CYA damage control mode. I'm sure whatever insurance they carry is also involved because they are going to be on the hook for the lawsuit.So much for Trails statement the other day that their own internal investigation and that of "outside professionals who are subject-matter experts" finding that they have done nothing wrong and have been concluded blah blah blah.
IMO, the extremely harsh treatment is tied to their 100% guarantee, and therefore the incredibly high fees.You know, I get it that kids can have emotional problems, fall in with the wrong crowd, or go through rebellious stages. But, sending them to these sorts of boot camps is nuts.
Maybe there is some big money people with bothersome kids there? IMOI don't understand how they could get by declining a request. One child was already dead--why didn't law enforcement intervene and make sure social services checked on the welfare of the other kid? It's like they treated them with kid gloves.
Or that the parents didn't come get them.10 days late, but better than never.
Interesting, that they don't seem to have sent kids home.
Maybe the big money belongs to the land owner whose land taxes may be some of the largest in the county and the out-of-state money he brings in fuels the local economy?Maybe there is some big money people with bothersome kids there? IMO
IMO, sounds as though everything is directed by lawyers who are in CYA damage control mode. I'm sure whatever insurance they carry is also involved because they are going to be on the hook for the lawsuit.
Also curious to know what's happening with "staff" who were on duty in the cabin. Have they been provided legal representation by the Trails?
What makes you think they're very young, inexperienced and lack training?I feel very bad for the staff in the bunk room, too. I realize this might be an unpopular opinion, but they sound very young, inexperienced and did not receive much training. Recipe for disaster when thrown in with difficult kids who may well have other medical or psychiatric conditions.
For goodness sakes, their own parents’ had trouble controlling them. That’s a lot to expect from a recent college grad without much experience. What a shame that therapists weren’t available around the clock for support of new campers.
Questions about staff qualifications, trainingWhat makes you think they're very young, inexperienced and lack training?
I can't find any comparison with how an adult handles a panic attack and what this child experienced up until and when the claimed panic attack occurred.I don't make a sound other than to tell the person I'm with that I'm having a panic attack.
You're kinder than I am.Questions about staff qualifications, training
Jonathan Hyde went to work at Trails last summer after being laid off from several jobs during the pandemic.
His professional background is in outdoor guiding and he figured he was well-equipped to work with kids in the wilderness.
But he was not prepared for the level of care the teens he was with would require.
Jonathan Hyde, who worked at Trails Carolina during the summer 2020, talks with WBTV Chief Investigative Reporter Nick Ochsner.(Corey Schmidt)
“I had kids that were vocally suicidal. I had kids that tried running away. I had kids that would try and fight you,” Hyde said.
“One of the issues of the place is that the people that spend the majority of the time with them are not trained therapists.”
Hyde was given three days of training before being sent to into the woods with participants.
That’s shorter than what an attorney for Trails Carolina recently told members of the N.C. Senate, who wrote a letter to the camp raising various questions about its program.
The letter said the facility follows a six-day training program and attached a schedule outlining which activities take place on specific days.
The program outlined in the letter to senators is not what Hyde experienced when he was hired last year.
“There was training but it was extremely minimal,” he said.
Both Hyde and the letter from Trails Carolina to the senators acknowledged turnover his high; staff members supervising participants in the woods make minimum wage.
‘It’s beyond cruel’: Inside an N.C. wilderness therapy program for teens
BBM. There definitely needs better regulation and oversight of the administrators of these programs.I feel very bad for the staff in the bunk room, too. I realize this might be an unpopular opinion, but they sound very young, inexperienced and did not receive much training. Recipe for disaster when thrown in with difficult kids who may well have other medical or psychiatric conditions.
For goodness sakes, their own parents’ had trouble controlling them. That’s a lot to expect from a recent college grad without much experience. What a shame that therapists weren’t available around the clock for support of new campers.
On the warrant, you will see the taxes. The owner is taxed as though the land is worth $10 per acre.Maybe the big money belongs to the land owner whose land taxes may be some of the largest in the county and the out-of-state money he brings in fuels the local economy?