jamiect
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Thanks.
They answered it for me already. Thank God.
I really don't want to google that.
I understand!
Thanks.
They answered it for me already. Thank God.
I really don't want to google that.
Something has been bugging me.
I have seen it stated BL had raised little Shaniya for the past several years of her life.
Which leads me to question, who raised her the first "couple" of years? Anyone know?
If he has raised her the entire 5 years, why state "several"?
Also, wondering why she had "Davis" as a last name since BL was supposedly raising her.
Since she had AD last name, this would mean she would have rights to child support.
I was on when it was happening and it was gross - they were on last Saturday night's thread if I remember correctly.
Has there ever been any evidence of an actual snuff film? I'm pretty sure the FBI has said they have never found a single valid case.
There have been serial killers who taped their torture and murder of people ,but a snuff film is made specifically for the purpose of killing and then selling the film.
I know there was a pretty famous case where Charlie Sheen saw what he thought was a snuff film. He reported it and it turned out to be just a movie.
What was the picture of?I was on when it was happening and it was gross - they were on last Saturday night's thread if I remember correctly.
Yeah, the FBI didn't find Jimmy Hoffa either, and we know he existed. :innocent:
I'm bringing this over from the other thread because it closed before I could post:
Snipped respectfully for space by me.
I think the difference is that he knew AD, or thought he did. We can become lulled into a sense of security when we actually know people who may pose a risk. I have said this before, and I will repeat it. How many times have we heard neighbors or others say, for example: "Oh, but he was such a nice man! So kind to animals and children. I never would have guessed he could do something like this."?
How many cases have we heard of where the initial reaction from people who knew the perp is that he or she just must be innocent because they are not capable of such acts? I think of Jesse Grund and casey anthony. He thought she was a wonderful, loving mother incapable of harming her child. he knew casey well. He slept with her, lived with her and was engaged. But, he could not see the evil that is now so apparent to us.
I think it is psychological to be more trusting of people we actually know.
The other issues is that, again, some people are not that smart. Some people don't have good hinky meters. Some people are naive, trusting. Some people hold the ideal of motherhood to such a high standard they could not imagine a m other harming a child - even though we hear of such cases in the news. Another example from the casey case - there were LEGIONS of people from websleuths supporting her and/or insisting that she either had nothing to do with it and was innocent, except possibly for negligence, that her child was forcibly kidnapped, that casey sold her child instead of murdering her, or that if the child was dead, it was an accident. And these are people who know full well about crime and stats and mothers who kill yet did not actually know casey. But, they could not wrap their mind around the possibility that a pretty young woman with tons of smiling pictures of her and the child, could have murdered her own baby. It's the motherhood ideal working.
Finally, how many of you could possibly predict such an outcome? My gosh, it is so horrible to comprehend - a mother actually harming her child in such a premeditated, methodical manner, and for what, why? How the heck could this average, uneducated, working class father possibly predict such a thing?
We on these boards know full well the risks to kids from drug use, new boyfriends, dysfunction, etc. But many, many people out there do not. Nor do they know what they can do about it even if they have an inkling as to the risks. This father should have done many things. He didn't. But he is not a bad man. He's a single dad trying his best to work and provide for his child and provide for her care and give her access to her bio-mom, etc.he obviously took great care of Shaniya, who looked happy, clean and well adjusted, when in his care. He made a huge error in giving AD a chance to see her child.
Finally, sadly, I come across cases in my practice, every single week, of parents who absolutely have no understanding of their rights. Especially dads. I don't think Brad knew of the risks, knew what he could do to obtain custody via the courts or knew that it is not always wise to give someone a "second chance." I pity the man.
I knew. I just hadn't considered it in Shaniya's case. Normally, on the rare occasion on is made, they use adults...they fight more and make it more exciting. (Typing that sentence made me feel dirty.)
I know that they are rare, very rare. It is hard to find a market, and very hard to find one that can be trusted. I don't think that McNeil would be able to find a buyer, but I'm not sure. I think McNeil may be a little further up the criminal food chain than most are assuming.
I'm bringing this over from the other thread because it closed before I could post:
Snipped respectfully for space by me.
I think the difference is that he knew AD, or thought he did. We can become lulled into a sense of security when we actually know people who may pose a risk. I have said this before, and I will repeat it. How many times have we heard neighbors or others say, for example: "Oh, but he was such a nice man! So kind to animals and children. I never would have guessed he could do something like this."?
How many cases have we heard of where the initial reaction from people who knew the perp is that he or she just must be innocent because they are not capable of such acts? I think of Jesse Grund and casey anthony. He thought she was a wonderful, loving mother incapable of harming her child. he knew casey well. He slept with her, lived with her and was engaged. But, he could not see the evil that is now so apparent to us.
I think it is psychological to be more trusting of people we actually know.
The other issues is that, again, some people are not that smart. Some people don't have good hinky meters. Some people are naive, trusting. Some people hold the ideal of motherhood to such a high standard they could not imagine a m other harming a child - even though we hear of such cases in the news. Another example from the casey case - there were LEGIONS of people from websleuths supporting her and/or insisting that she either had nothing to do with it and was innocent, except possibly for negligence, that her child was forcibly kidnapped, that casey sold her child instead of murdering her, or that if the child was dead, it was an accident. And these are people who know full well about crime and stats and mothers who kill yet did not actually know casey. But, they could not wrap their mind around the possibility that a pretty young woman with tons of smiling pictures of her and the child, could have murdered her own baby. It's the motherhood ideal working.
Finally, how many of you could possibly predict such an outcome? My gosh, it is so horrible to comprehend - a mother actually harming her child in such a premeditated, methodical manner, and for what, why? How the heck could this average, uneducated, working class father possibly predict such a thing?
We on these boards know full well the risks to kids from drug use, new boyfriends, dysfunction, etc. But many, many people out there do not. Nor do they know what they can do about it even if they have an inkling as to the risks. This father should have done many things. He didn't. But he is not a bad man. He's a single dad trying his best to work and provide for his child and provide for her care and give her access to her bio-mom, etc.he obviously took great care of Shaniya, who looked happy, clean and well adjusted, when in his care. He made a huge error in giving AD a chance to see her child.
Finally, sadly, I come across cases in my practice, every single week, of parents who absolutely have no understanding of their rights. Especially dads. I don't think Brad knew of the risks, knew what he could do to obtain custody via the courts or knew that it is not always wise to give someone a "second chance." I pity the man.
A repost of the three amigos - ETA: Pizzface is MAM:
I'm sorry, gitana. I'm not going to rationalize that sort of irresponsible parenting away, because it sends the worst message to parents who might be tempted to take the same sort of risks with their children.
This man was not ignorant or naive, and he was worse than careless. He was strongly warned, but refused to heed the warnings. He put other things ahead of his daughter's safety.
It frightens me to think that there are any seemingly "good parents" out there who can't look at that situation and recognize that it was not the place any responsible parent would send a child.
Does anyone find it strange that of all the people we have heard from, someone who was right there and had first hand knowledge,(Brenda), has remained invisible????
Dad is not on Shaniya's Birth certificate only Mom is on her BC.
they did share custody in an informal way. Nothing court ordered.He said her mom got Shaniya occasionally not very often. His own daughter says that dads girl friend and sister have raised her mostly.