NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Fayetteville, 10 Nov 2009 - Allegedly sold by mother #18

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Good question and I've wondered that as well, someone else here asked why would AD lie and say Coe kidnapped her? Its all very confusing and I'm pretty sure its because information is not coming out yet.


IMO Maybe she didn't know and thought he may have? Maybe Coe is still pissed off about that and make up the selling bit for revenge? Maybe that selling allegation came from mario's lips.

I need more evidence before I am ready to condem the mom.

Mario, I'd stick the needle in myself
 
No evidence though that Shaniya's brother did know MAM, or the rest of the family right?

It does make you wonder why they didn't go to the authorites and I question what the neighbors had to say just for the reason. If they really knew Shaniya had cig burns why didn't they report that? None of this makes any sense to me and the only facts I see so far is the Bio mom and MAM is to blame for this.

I do hope they have more evidence than MAM stating AD sold her daughter to him, did he actually say that? I would have a problem believing MAM only.

The cig burns are the neighbors only saying this right?

Several said Cigarette burns. One poster said that Mosquito bits when they are scratched a lot look like cig. burns.

I can see at this moment all we have is AD and MAM and maybe that is all there is.
But I do not think so....Because a perp can do his thing anywhere and would rarely go to a HOTEL...
I still think *advertiser censored* flick or something like that would warrant a hotel room maybe? :waitasec:
the Hotel room still throws me off........
You are right there is no evidence that the family knew MAM but the way his son just said Mario,
it was like he knew the man...he just never asumed that "MARIO" could do that......
there was something in that interview that I knew Mario was not a new person to this boy.
 
I live in Ontario, Canada where we do not have DP, I do believe it is time to change this IMO
I would like to know when someone is found guilty and sentenced to the DP, do the taxes payers keep them, for 20 years or more and then the DP comes into affect? I hope i worded this correctly.

I think I understand what you are asking. I'll try to explain as best I can.

Only with certain crimes can a person get the DP. It is up to the jury (in most cases) to decide if that person will be put to death or get life in prison. If that person gets the DP, it will take many years to actually be put to death. Every state is different. I live in Az and I was researching the DP because of a certain local case (http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/chandler/story/Chandler-dad-faces-murder-charge-after-baby/h7BN7peoZE2LGDznbwW-Ng.cspx ) ( another equally disturbing case) In Az, the average wait time from sentencing to death is about 12 years. I've tried to find statistics for NC and have not been able to find them. I have read somewhere that is costs more money for someone to be housed and put to death than it is for some to be in prison for life. Yes, our taxes pay for this. IMO, my taxes are well spent to put these type of people death. Also in Az and I think all other states, when someone is on death row they are housed in a different area than the other criminals. IMO, people like MAM should be put out there in the general population. Even criminals have a certain "code" and would take care of MAM themselves.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with my opinion on the DP. That is not my intent, it's just my personal opinion.
 
Hi there, On FOX News just now they showed a clip of this MAM walking into court a few minutes ago. He almost broke into a big grin as he entered the court room. A real sicko and am so thankful he is off the street. xox
 
She was up all night. She had to know what was going on. In the 911 call, there is a point at which she begins to say "I'm so......." It sounds like she's about to say "I'm so tired"............I thought that was wierd in the middle of a 911 call. Someone go back and listen to it please and tell me if I'm imagining things.
I heard her start to say scared.
 
What if Mario is lying about AD saying he could take the baby. Maybe AD didn't and that's why she called 911. What proof other than MAM's words do they have that Shaniya was sold?

Just asking.

Well it is quite possible he is lying about mom letting him take her, he is in cover my butt mode and cares for no one but himself.

I remember reading somewhere that the charges on mom were because they found where she had an add on Shaniya listed on the internet prostituting her out. Anyone remember reading that as well?

If this was the case then yes he would know mom was pimping her out and use that excuse as to how he got Shaniya placing that blame on mom.


The thing with the blanket could very well have been Shaniya had been abused that night maybe by McNeill for payment and he just decided to take her until mom could fully pay up and never expected her to call. Mom may have not known he took her until she woke up and found Shaniya gone.

He killed Shaniya because she had become a liability to him at that point.
If all they have is MAM's word she allowed it that is scary, that is why I think momsters charges are still where they are at because LE has to figure out for sure she in actuality gave Shaniya to McNeill because if she did not well then they can not charge her with murder.

The 911 call does confuse me as well as the camera's showing the family coming outside looking around for her. I don't even think momster pointed the finger at Coe I think it was more hyped up by the managers word about knowing who the person was on camera in the car, and we all know she was wrong in her statement's.

This of course is just my opinion but one thing I know for sure is that these two are scum of the earth and are taking up oxygen !
 
IMO Maybe she didn't know and thought he may have? Maybe Coe is still pissed off about that and make up the selling bit for revenge? Maybe that selling allegation came from mario's lips.

I need more evidence before I am ready to condem the mom.

Mario, I'd stick the needle in myself

Thank you, I hadn't thought of that.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/accused-shaniya-davis-kidnapper-charged-murder-rape/story?id=9136407

~snip~

Shaniya's father, Bradley Lockhart, appeared on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" today via satellite and said he was told that Antoinette Davis had trafficked their daughter to pay off a drug debt.

"I am disgusted, but yet in so much pain at this point," Shaniya's aunt, Carey Lockhart-Davis told Winfrey today. "She was such a vibrant child and such an important part of my life. And it's hard at this point to understand why someone would take this sweet blessing away from me."

~snip~


Thanks for the link! I feel this part answers a few questions I have seen posed here, BBM:

"Lockhart told Winfrey that the child was the result of a one-night stand and that Davis had raised Shaniya for the first year of her life before asking Lockhart to provide a more stable environment.

Custody, he said, "was a verbal agreement between Antoinette and I.""
 
If there is a ring he is not implicating anyone by taking the wrap, and claiming Mom gave her to him. :waitasec:
If he covers for a ring, he may benefit in some way in Hotel Stay for life ? :waitasec:


Possible he felt if he covered, he may walk. I know it's unrealistic to us, but maybe not to him.
 
And why would they dump the blanket at 3, and not take her until 5:30 am, which if the mother is to believed, is when she was taken.

This.

And the neighbor stated she heard noise and someone BANGING on the side of her house at this time.

Did she look out her window or go outside??

What if Shaniya had slipped away and was trying to get help????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
This.

And the neighbor stated she heard noise and someone BANGING on the side of her house at this time.

Did she look out her window or go outside??

What if Shaniya had slipped away and was trying to get help????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

She specifically said that she didn't think it was someone trying to get in. She said it sounded like her trash can getting caught on the lip of the trailer edge.

I'm only going on her statement.
Certainly not sure of anything.
 
Published: 11:54 AM, Fri Nov 20, 2009
McNeill due in court on murder, rape charges


The man accused of raping and killing 5-year-old Shaniya Davis is scheduled to appear in court at 2:15 p.m. today.

Warrants charging Mario Andrette McNeill, 29, of the 2600 block of Pine Springs Drive, with the crimes were served on him Thursday night, Fayetteville police said

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/20/953940
 
My opinion only is that at the end of the day MAM and MAM alone is going to be standing alone with the charges. And it is also MOO that this is not the first child that MAM has terrorized and raped - but where are the others?
 
I know we have heard a lot of speculation about the blanket, but has the mom made a statement that she doesn't know anything about it? or has that just been assumed?

Maybe the mom threw it away at 3:00. She said in the 911 call that she last saw Shaniya at 5:30 when she went BACK to bed. maybe she had an accident in the middle of the night. they had to get her cleaned up and back to bed.
 
Thanks for the link! I feel this part answers a few questions I have seen posed here, BBM:

"Lockhart told Winfrey that the child was the result of a one-night stand and that Davis had raised Shaniya for the first year of her life before asking Lockhart to provide a more stable environment.

Custody, he said, "was a verbal agreement between Antoinette and I.""

Well IF AD had enough sense to know she needed a more stable enviroment then why the heck would she prostitute her own child. I would like to have more questions answered about AD before we all throw her jail and lock her away. Also I will post the links to the arrest warrant and it may be LE verbage but it say MAM took the child without knowledge of guardian/parent. So this is my question how is that everyone is so sure the mom gave this child to this man? We have yet to see any evidence that she has done anything to this child just rumors.
 
Surely there is more information out there than what we know at this point regarding the charges against the mother. If MAM had made this story up about her involvement, wouldn't she have already been released? I'm just hoping if she is indeed guilty of that, that she is punished properly and I also hope that she is charged with Shaniya's murder because she is just as guilty as he is considering WHAT WE KNOW FOR SURE right now.
 
She specifically said that she didn't think it was someone trying to get in. She said it sounded like her trash can getting caught on the lip of the trailer edge.

I'm only going on her statement.
Certainly not sure of anything.

That's not what I read:

Moore said she was awakened by noises outside her home at about 3 a.m. Tuesday.

"It sounded like somebody was beating (on the wall)," she said.

She went back to sleep but was awakened later by police saying they were confiscating her trash can because it contained evidence in the disappearance of her young neighbor

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6397519/

What if that was Shaniya??????
 
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