Netflix to stream new documentary on Steven Avery - #4

[missy1974]

Thanks Soulmagent! I have never walked through one. So your experience is noted!

and thanks Amber.... I have read so much in the last few weeks, it's a bit of information overload LOL

Much appreciated

 

[Amber29]

Thanks Soulmagent! I have never walked through one. So your experience is noted!

and thanks Amber.... I have read so much in the last few weeks, it's a bit of information overload LOL

Much appreciated

I know I keep having to go back to things because I find myself questioning myself on if I read it right.
What a strange spot for a hair to be found btw and someone has eagle eyes.

 

[missy1974]

I know I keep having to go back to things because I find myself questioning myself on if I read it right.
What a strange spot for a hair to be found btw and someone has eagle eyes.

no kidding! LOL I actually went and looked at the photo on a few different websites before I posted it because ya know.... there are people out there that would add it to the photo and say look! I'm going to take a wild guess and say it was probably TH's hair, but I do think it shows just how much can be overlooked in any case.

 

[missy1974]

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/ste...teline-first-tv-interview-taking-case-n506221

"Generally, since 2007, there have been significant advances in forensic testing ... the clearest way to do this is with scientific testing," Kathleen Zellner told Dateline NBC's Andrea Canning in her first TV interview since taking the case. "Am I going to tell you exactly what it is? I am not. But it's been a long time. There was a lot of evidence that wasn't tested."

 

[missy1974]

tweeted just a few minutes ago


Kathleen Zellner ‏@ZellnerLaw 4m4 minutes ago
Third visit WCC: SA thrilled about chance of new forensic testing--like innocent men always are.#MakingAMurderer

 

[MysticJynx]

someone tweeted to Zellner about this photo...
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there is a hair hanging from the vent under the steering wheel. I wonder if that was collected, I don't remember reading anything about hairs collected (even if matched to TH)

I'm pretty sure its not JL's hair. :laugh:

 

[missy1974]

http://wbay.com/2016/01/29/1-on-1-with-steven-averys-attorney-kathleen-zellner/

oops, didn't put what it is. It's KZ coming in and out of the today.

Interesting that her team went and bought a RAV4 to be able to better understand the case

 

[Jaiddie]

I watched the dream/killer docu this morning and have to admit I can't wait to see Kratz & Co. have to face the music with her...I so hope we get to see their downfall (but I doubt it). I also have to say that while Zellner is very impressive in that documentary, the true hero for me was Ferguson's father, as he was vastly instrumental in assisting her in freeing his son. :justice:

 

[Sinsaint]

I watched the dream/killer docu this morning and have to admit I can't wait to see Kratz & Co. have to face the music with her...I so hope we get to see their downfall (but I doubt it). I also have to say that while Zellner is very impressive in that documentary, the true hero for me was Ferguson's father, as he was vastly instrumental in assisting her in freeing his son. :justice:

His dad was instrumental in getting his son's injustice all the national attention the case garnered.

 

[MissKJN]

Do you per chance know what year Ryan became a licensed nurse? Was he a licensed RN in 2005?

I read an article that I'll try to find saying he had recently finished nursing school at the time of the murder and was unemployed at that time. I'll see if I can dig it up

 

[JoM7]

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[Sinsaint]

I read an article that I'll try to find saying he had recently finished nursing school at the time of the murder and was unemployed at that time. I'll see if I can dig it up

I remember reading that too. I thought it was weird considering on October 31st 2002 or 2003 he was listed as a senior majoring in Biology in college. He must have taken a few years off after graduating.

 

[MysticJynx]

I read an article that I'll try to find saying he had recently finished nursing school at the time of the murder and was unemployed at that time. I'll see if I can dig it up

He didn't get his license until Dec 2005 http://licensedirect.com/hillegas-ryan-j/18859474

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I think someone said this the other day too, maybe you? It's like a little kid hiding behind a curtain and thinking you can't find them!

What makes me the most suspicious about the RAV4 is... they were open for business tues/wed/thur/fri, no one noticed it? I think it was reported that Charles was down that way crushing cars, or someone was.... they didn't notice it either? I really do think that the way it was covered would make it stand out more. And this salvage yard was their whole life... they knew what to find where, it would definitely be out of place. So even if SA did this... he took a chance that CA/EA/AA or anyone found it.

Sorry, I don't agree. You have multiple family members taking in new vehicles all the time and they don't necessarily know what EA or CA took in the day before or mom and dad for that matter.

 

[Sustained]

Sorry, I don't agree. You have multiple family members taking in new vehicles all the time and they don't necessarily know what EA or CA took in the day before or mom and dad for that matter.

BCA, do you have any evidence to back up your claim ? IMO, all of them knew the salvage yard like the back of their hands and a new car would've stuck out like a sore thumb. Don't have a link, but I heard the Averys grouped the cars somehow to make parts easier to find. As is the case in most junkyards, the customer goes in and finds the part he needs and removes it. The Averys would know exactly where to send them in the yard.

 

[Jaiddie]

His dad was instrumental in getting his son's injustice all the national attention the case garnered.

He also had all the trial and investigation info memorized as at one point in the show Zellner states, "If we need information from day such and such, I know all I have to do is call up Bill." LOL

 

[atthelake]

Dateline has new show on Avery starting in 10 minutes eastern time

 

[BigCityAccountant]

There is testimony from Mrs. Z that he was angry when the police called him on November 3rd. I think outside of the jury, Strang says he was threatening to have the dog eat anyone who came on their property, saying TH WAS a trespasser and he would shoot her, and apparently he gave LE a series of lies for that afternoon for what he and his grandson were doing that afternoon. I am actually leaning towards she went back to the Zipperers AFTER the Avery's.
I'm not sure if the woman at Auto Trader is all that believable, or maybe that's not fair.... I don't think she recalls her conversations as well as she said. I wonder how many photographers she talks to in a day? She said that TH said it WAS the Avery brothers. Using was, not is.... hmmm had she already gone to the Avery's then? Was she on her way outta there? not on her way out there?

As for the voicemail.... a vm could have been deleted, we will never know. The call was very short though, so I think he just hung up.

GZ's behavior doesn't surprise me. Most people in that neck of the woods do not like LE. If the guy was an alcoholic (which is common in the area) I could see him have had a case of beer before LE contacted him.

[h=1]Drinking deeply ingrained in Wisconsin's culture[/h] http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/31237904.html

 

[Tawny]

GZ's behavior doesn't surprise me. Most people in that neck of the woods do not like LE. If the guy was an alcoholic (which is common in the area) I could see him have had a case of beer before LE contacted him.

[h=1]Drinking deeply ingrained in Wisconsin's culture[/h] http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/31237904.html

Relevance? Do you have a source saying he was an alcoholic?

 

[missy1974]

GZ's behavior doesn't surprise me. Most people in that neck of the woods do not like LE. If the guy was an alcoholic (which is common in the area) I could see him have had a case of beer before LE contacted him.

I get that people have issues .... but when LE calls about a missing girl..... most people... including drunks, wouldn't behave the way he did, unless of course, he had something to hide.

All I'm saying is.... out of all the people that talked or had contact with her that day... they were the only one's that couldn't narrow down a time, and they were the only one's that weren't cooperative. It needed to be investigated. It even crossed my mind that maybe it was him that called her at 2:41.... she left a card and other AutoTrader stuff with Mrs. Zipperer, maybe when Mrs. Z gave it to Mr. Z... he was like wth, who was this girl.